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Post by palealeman on Feb 13, 2018 18:28:03 GMT -5
OMG! Turns out the White House was notified in July that Porter had a problem. Press staff maintain that the background investigation was "ongoing." FBI Director Wray told Congress that the White House was notified in July. Why does the Trump administration, continuing to Take America Backwards, continue to lie to the American People? Does anyone in the White House know what "truth" means? Probably not. thinkprogress.org/christopher-wray-timeline-rob-porter-b5c60ebfc556/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tp-lettersAnd before the usual suspects (i.e., Ranger John and the Commie) start yelling about the messenger, try to find some facts to disprove the allegations.
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Post by redleg on Feb 13, 2018 20:41:40 GMT -5
Since you have no idea what a background investigation for a security clearance at that level entails, it's no wonder you accept "thinkregress" as a reliable source. Being notified of a "problem" does not require immediate removal, just more investigation. He resigned before his SC investigation was complete, thereby halting it at whatever point it was at. I see you still have a real problem with "innocent until proven guilty". Unless Trump had incontrovertable evidence, there was no reason for him to fire anyone based on mere accusations. Unlike the Communists you worship, Trump still believes in the Constitution, and does his best to follow it's tenets.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 14, 2018 16:06:20 GMT -5
And, of course, the usual suspects attack the messenger, not the message. If the FBI says that an investigation was completed in July, it was completed in July. Porter should have been out then. Why was he still working? Probably because he was a male, and male wife beaters and sexual offenders are given the benefit the the doubt -- actually, of many, many doubts -- in the Trump White House. GOPPPP Reigns!
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Post by Ranger John on Feb 14, 2018 19:37:43 GMT -5
And, of course, the usual suspects attack the messenger, not the message. If the FBI says that an investigation was completed in July, it was completed in July. Porter should have been out then. Why was he still working? Probably because he was a male, and male wife beaters and sexual offenders are given the benefit the the doubt -- actually, of many, many doubts -- in the Trump White House. GOPPPP Reigns! This isn't true. www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/14/why-the-white-house-timeline-on-rob-porters-clearance-is-questionable/?utm_term=.73c1da170ca3Wray testified that the report was completed in July, but additional information was requested, and not provided until November. The FBI didn't close out their investigation until January. This is not a cut-and-dried case. No charges were ever filed against Porter, and he has not been accused of any malfeasance in office. I don't know what sort of civil service rules might apply to Porter's position, but absent criminal charges or wrongdoing at work, it is notoriously difficult to fire government employees.
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Post by redleg on Feb 14, 2018 20:44:47 GMT -5
And, of course, the usual suspects attack the messenger, not the message. If the FBI says that an investigation was completed in July, it was completed in July. Porter should have been out then. Why was he still working? Probably because he was a male, and male wife beaters and sexual offenders are given the benefit the the doubt -- actually, of many, many doubts -- in the Trump White House. GOPPPP Reigns! As I said, you have nothing but the babblings of the fake news useful idiots to go by, since you've never held a security clearance, and have no idea what it entails. As I said, the FBI simply did the first leg work of the investigation. The process isn't over until he is either granted, or denied a clearance by a 'board', or 'council' that will make the final decision. It wasn't "over" just because the FBI had completed their part of the process. Actually, no, they aren't unless a Party of the KKK criminal is in the WH, or in charge of the process. Notice that he resigned, unlike in Party of the KKK regimes, where he's either promoted, or moved to a more hidden position.
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Post by kemmer on Feb 15, 2018 1:53:51 GMT -5
Maybe-- and remember, this was before the Weinstein flack-- just maybe, they thought that, since Porter wasn't being hired by an escort company to squire women to events, whatever had happened with his ex-wives did not impinge on his ability to do the job for which he was hired.
(The irony is that so many cities are now passing laws forbidding prospective employers from inquiring about prior felony convictions in the vetting process. Gotta get a chuckle when these accusations so easily end careers, no?)
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Post by palealeman on Feb 15, 2018 10:27:02 GMT -5
Good post, Kemmer. I always enjoy what you have to say. May not always agree, but what you say is well said and supported.
My problem with this is that the FBI reported gave a preliminary report to the White House in March, a month or two after Porter started working. I would think there were indications at that time of spousal abuse. That in itself should have been enough to send him packing. In July the FBI sent its completed investigation to the White House. Instead of taking action, Porter was allowed to work and the White House asked for more information. In November another report to the White House, and according to published reports Kelly was made aware of the situation at this time. And yet still no action.
What's going on here? Why did this guy keep working at the White House, handling sensitive documents when there was the possibility of his being blackmailed?
Trump has a history of defending males accused of sexual abuse. Here's another case, this one with credible accusations, a court protective order, and a photo. What more is needed for the White House to take action?
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Post by redleg on Feb 15, 2018 10:47:20 GMT -5
Good post, Kemmer. I always enjoy what you have to say. May not always agree, but what you say is well said and supported. My problem with this is that the FBI reported gave a preliminary report to the White House in March, a month or two after Porter started working. I would think there were indications at that time of spousal abuse. That in itself should have been enough to send him packing. In July the FBI sent its completed investigation to the White House. Instead of taking action, Porter was allowed to work and the White House asked for more information. In November another report to the White House, and according to published reports Kelly was made aware of the situation at this time. And yet still no action. What's going on here? Why did this guy keep working at the White House, handling sensitive documents when there was the possibility of his being blackmailed? Trump has a history of defending males accused of sexual abuse. Here's another case, this one with credible accusations, a court protective order, and a photo. What more is needed for the White House to take action? Ah, so Van Jones, of The Puppet's regime, being a known and virulent Communist, being allowed to work and handle classified information wasn't a problem. Having an accused, but not proven, wife beater is. Having a Sec State that has a private server, and using it for classified information, isn't a problem, but not reacting to accusations until all the evidence is in is? Really?
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Post by weeb on Feb 21, 2018 5:01:03 GMT -5
After eight years of White House lies and the pathetic Dem post & present election bamboozle you must be used to lies. It's the Democrats stock in trade.
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Post by palealeman on Feb 21, 2018 15:16:52 GMT -5
After eight years of White House lies and the pathetic Dem post & present election bamboozle you must be used to lies. It's the Democrats stock in trade. I have no idea what you're saying. Can you try it again?
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