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Post by Ranger John on Apr 4, 2018 7:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by redleg on Apr 4, 2018 8:57:48 GMT -5
According to one report I read, they contacted her in a parking lot less than a mile from youtube HQ. Of course, they may not have had reasonable cause to detain her, but her father apparently told them she was "really mad" at youtube, and might do something rash. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out of this. Of course, since she was female, and Iranian, we won't hear near the invective, or the calls for disarming females. Nor will we hear that all females that arm themselves are 'terrorists'. That's reserved for white males that don't wear man buns.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 4, 2018 9:54:36 GMT -5
According to one report I read, they contacted her in a parking lot less than a mile from youtube HQ. Of course, they may not have had reasonable cause to detain her, but her father apparently told them she was "really mad" at youtube, and might do something rash. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out of this. Of course, since she was female, and Iranian, we won't hear near the invective, or the calls for disarming females. Nor will we hear that all females that arm themselves are 'terrorists'. That's reserved for white males that don't wear man buns. The report I read is the police contacted her because she was sleeping in her car. The police contacted the family after the fact to let them know she had been found safe (apparently the family had reported her missing) and that's when the family told police she might do something at YouTube. It will indeed be very interesting to see how the media presents this story. Being a minority woman who felt taken advantage of by a big corporation is going to be a difficult story line to resist in opposition to the "take everyone's guns away" narrative that is currently so popular. Guess we'll get to see how the left's perceptions of racism and sexism stand up against their fight against civil rights.
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Post by redleg on Apr 4, 2018 19:45:47 GMT -5
There have already been several versions of that, now. Notice that the first thing CNN did was make it about her being a female, and that it must have been a 'love triangle' or something. Also notice that it has fallen almost completely off the radar of the LR media. It didn't fit their narrative, so it goes away as fast as they can make it.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 5, 2018 7:25:16 GMT -5
There have already been several versions of that, now. Notice that the first thing CNN did was make it about her being a female, and that it must have been a 'love triangle' or something. Also notice that it has fallen almost completely off the radar of the LR media. It didn't fit their narrative, so it goes away as fast as they can make it. Absolutely. More proof that the left isn't interested in stopping gun violence. Their goal is punishing the NRA and destroying the ability of the people to defend themselves.
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Post by redleg on Apr 5, 2018 7:56:21 GMT -5
There have already been several versions of that, now. Notice that the first thing CNN did was make it about her being a female, and that it must have been a 'love triangle' or something. Also notice that it has fallen almost completely off the radar of the LR media. It didn't fit their narrative, so it goes away as fast as they can make it. Absolutely. More proof that the left isn't interested in stopping gun violence. Their goal is punishing the NRA and destroying the ability of the people to defend themselves. Since they rely on government to 'defend' them, they don't want reminders that they are voluntary serfs. The idea of individual responsibility is an anathema to their agenda.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 5, 2018 8:22:43 GMT -5
Absolutely. More proof that the left isn't interested in stopping gun violence. Their goal is punishing the NRA and destroying the ability of the people to defend themselves. Since they rely on government to 'defend' them, they don't want reminders that they are voluntary serfs. The idea of individual responsibility is an anathema to their agenda. I'm not so sure about that. So many of them rely on the government for financial support and to think for them. Most of them were born to be slaves. The government in the form of the media and the big-government party tell them they need to support gun control because gun violence is bad and the omni-present fall back "won't someone please think of the children!" The government tells them this is the reason, but the actual reason is their rulers want more control over people. We know this is true, because all of their solutions involve controlling law abiding citizens and devaluing their civil rights, while none of their solutions involve addressing gun violence. The vast majority of gun violence is committed with hand guns by Democrats in jurisdictions run by Democrats with heavy gun control regulations. Their assault weapons ban doesn't affect these people or crime in general. It affects Republicans in jurisdictions run by Republicans with light gun control, and little crime. Guns like AR-15s are mostly purchased a) because they can be as an exercise of the 2nd Amendment, and b) for hunting. This is where people who know nothing about guns will talk all sorts of nonsense about AR-15s being lousy for hunting because they destroy the meat... or some other such nonsense. When in fact, they're almost ideal tools for blasting critters like ground hogs that live to tear up crop land. AR-15s, and long guns in general, are terrible tools for crime and murder because they're impossible to conceal. This is demonstrated over and over again in the FBI's crime statistics which show you are more likely to be beaten to death with someone's bare hands than shot by an AR-15, or a gun like it. Eliminating AR-15 crime will not significantly impact gun crime, because there's very little of it to begin with.
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Post by redleg on Apr 5, 2018 8:27:55 GMT -5
Since they rely on government to 'defend' them, they don't want reminders that they are voluntary serfs. The idea of individual responsibility is an anathema to their agenda. I'm not so sure about that. So many of them rely on the government for financial support and to think for them. Most of them were born to be slaves. The government in the form of the media and the big-government party tell them they need to support gun control because gun violence is bad and the omni-present fall back "won't someone please think of the children!" The government tells them this is the reason, but the actual reason is their rulers want more control over people. We know this is true, because all of their solutions involve controlling law abiding citizens and devaluing their civil rights, while none of their solutions involve addressing gun violence. The vast majority of gun violence is committed with hand guns by Democrats in jurisdictions run by Democrats with heavy gun control regulations. Their assault weapons ban doesn't affect these people or crime in general. It affects Republicans in jurisdictions run by Republicans with light gun control, and little crime. Guns like AR-15s are mostly purchased a) because they can be as an exercise of the 2nd Amendment, and b) for hunting. This is where people who know nothing about guns will talk all sorts of nonsense about AR-15s being lousy for hunting because they destroy the meat... or some other such nonsense. When in fact, they're almost ideal tools for blasting critters like ground hogs that live to tear up crop land. AR-15s, and long guns in general, are terrible tools for crime and murder because they're impossible to conceal. This is demonstrated over and over again in the FBI's crime statistics which show you are more likely to be beaten to death with someone's bare hands than shot by an AR-15, or a gun like it. Eliminating AR-15 crime will not significantly impact gun crime, because there's very little of it to begin with. In addition, there are almost no Leftists that realize the Ar platform is no different from nearly every other longarm sold. They are a semiautomatic, just like the M1, M14, and countless Remmington, Winchester, and Ruger rifles owned for generations. In addition, it's not a " powerful" rifle, it's, at best, a moderately powerful round. Several states prohibit hunting deer with them, because it's not powerful enough to guarantee a clean kill. The ignorance coming from the useful idiots is frightening. You would think they would do at least a modicum of research before they start their propaganda.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 5, 2018 9:29:08 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about that. So many of them rely on the government for financial support and to think for them. Most of them were born to be slaves. The government in the form of the media and the big-government party tell them they need to support gun control because gun violence is bad and the omni-present fall back "won't someone please think of the children!" The government tells them this is the reason, but the actual reason is their rulers want more control over people. We know this is true, because all of their solutions involve controlling law abiding citizens and devaluing their civil rights, while none of their solutions involve addressing gun violence. The vast majority of gun violence is committed with hand guns by Democrats in jurisdictions run by Democrats with heavy gun control regulations. Their assault weapons ban doesn't affect these people or crime in general. It affects Republicans in jurisdictions run by Republicans with light gun control, and little crime. Guns like AR-15s are mostly purchased a) because they can be as an exercise of the 2nd Amendment, and b) for hunting. This is where people who know nothing about guns will talk all sorts of nonsense about AR-15s being lousy for hunting because they destroy the meat... or some other such nonsense. When in fact, they're almost ideal tools for blasting critters like ground hogs that live to tear up crop land. AR-15s, and long guns in general, are terrible tools for crime and murder because they're impossible to conceal. This is demonstrated over and over again in the FBI's crime statistics which show you are more likely to be beaten to death with someone's bare hands than shot by an AR-15, or a gun like it. Eliminating AR-15 crime will not significantly impact gun crime, because there's very little of it to begin with. In addition, there are almost no Leftists that realize the Ar platform is no different from nearly every other longarm sold. They are a semiautomatic, just like the M1, M14, and countless Remmington, Winchester, and Ruger rifles owned for generations. In addition, it's not a " powerful" rifle, it's, at best, a moderately powerful round. Several states prohibit hunting deer with them, because it's not powerful enough to guarantee a clean kill. The ignorance coming from the useful idiots is frightening. You would think they would do at least a modicum of research before they start their propaganda. As I said, they rely on their government/DNC/media rulers to think for them. There is no desire or attempt at independent thought, or questioning authority.
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Post by palealeman on Apr 5, 2018 14:37:05 GMT -5
So how would you present this story, RJ? And where did you get the "radical-left" appelation?
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 5, 2018 17:57:39 GMT -5
So how would you present this story, RJ? And where did you get the "radical-left" appelation? I would do just the facts. A dusgruntled woman who was pissed off at YouTube for demonitizing her videos broke in and shot three employees. It doesn't need to be politicized by the media. As for radical-left she was vegan animal rights activist, who went to at least one PETA rally. That's pretty much all she was. That was the central theme of her videos. PETA is essentially a left-wing terrorist organization. They are violent, and have no qualms funding their insanely violent friend Rod Coronado at ALF.
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Post by palealeman on Apr 6, 2018 20:12:43 GMT -5
If you'd just do the facts, then just do them. But to add you typical unthinking partisan anti-left spin is something that didn't need to be added.
She was disgruntled. She was upset at YouTube. She shot 3 employees and took her own life. That's the basic story. It doesn't need to be politicized. Period. But it's what you do.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 7, 2018 4:36:47 GMT -5
If you'd just do the facts, then just do them. But to add you typical unthinking partisan anti-left spin is something that didn't need to be added. She was disgruntled. She was upset at YouTube. She shot 3 employees and took her own life. That's the basic story. It doesn't need to be politicized. Period. But it's what you do. You're forgetting the difference between me and the press. The job of legitimate news is to inform. I'm here to express an opinion. But, like a typical fascist, you think the media should be expressing your opinion an I should STFU. And that's why you're always so horribly misinformed. You uncritically accept the left's opinion which is presented as fact in most media outlets, when in fact, much of it is false.
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Post by palealeman on Apr 7, 2018 15:35:55 GMT -5
I remember the difference between you and the facts. The press searches for, and generally finds, facts, facts that they verify with at least one other source. You take your opinion and spout it as truth. Most of your "facts" aren't worth the bandwidth they use.
I don't think the media should necessarily express an opinion other than in opinion pieces. But you read something and jump to conclusions, usually erroneous, and usually finding some way to make everything political. More of your unthinking partisanship and trying to further the Trump agenda, which includes trashing the legitimate press, denigrating the FBI, and overlooking any and all sexually predatory behavior, especially from Republicans who always seem to get a pass from you.
But, again, what else is new?
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 7, 2018 16:23:29 GMT -5
I remember the difference between you and the facts. The press searches for, and generally finds, facts, facts that they verify with at least one other source. You take your opinion and spout it as truth. Most of your "facts" aren't worth the bandwidth they use. I don't think the media should necessarily express an opinion other than in opinion pieces. But you read something and jump to conclusions, usually erroneous, and usually finding some way to make everything political. More of your unthinking partisanship and trying to further the Trump agenda, which includes trashing the legitimate press, denigrating the FBI, and overlooking any and all sexually predatory behavior, especially from Republicans who always seem to get a pass from you. But, again, what else is new? The media spends as much time hiding the facts as they do making up nonsense. A primer for you:
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Post by redleg on Apr 7, 2018 21:06:09 GMT -5
I remember the difference between you and the facts. The press searches for, and generally finds, facts, facts that they verify with at least one other source. You take your opinion and spout it as truth. Most of your "facts" aren't worth the bandwidth they use. I don't think the media should necessarily express an opinion other than in opinion pieces. But you read something and jump to conclusions, usually erroneous, and usually finding some way to make everything political. More of your unthinking partisanship and trying to further the Trump agenda, which includes trashing the legitimate press, denigrating the FBI, and overlooking any and all sexually predatory behavior, especially from Republicans who always seem to get a pass from you. But, again, what else is new? The media spends as much time hiding the facts as they do making up nonsense. A primer for you: He can't handle the facts you presented. She WAS a vegan, she WAS an animal rights NAZI, she WAS a body builder, who's videos youtube decided weren't 'educational' enough. She bought her firearm legally, and she carried more than one magazine. Everyone is just fortunate she didn't spend as much time at the range as she spent at PETA rallies, and protesting normal people.
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Post by redleg on Apr 7, 2018 21:08:55 GMT -5
I remember the difference between you and the facts. The press searches for, and generally finds, facts, facts that they verify with at least one other source. You take your opinion and spout it as truth. Most of your "facts" aren't worth the bandwidth they use. I don't think the media should necessarily express an opinion other than in opinion pieces. But you read something and jump to conclusions, usually erroneous, and usually finding some way to make everything political. More of your unthinking partisanship and trying to further the Trump agenda, which includes trashing the legitimate press, denigrating the FBI, and overlooking any and all sexually predatory behavior, especially from Republicans who always seem to get a pass from you. But, again, what else is new? Trump isn't denigrating the press, just the propaganda outlets that you think are real news. Nor is he castigating the FBI. He's castigating the 'leadership' that was performing a silent coup, spying on American citizens, and doing their best to sway an election to their chosen Communist. They even went so far as to spike an investigation into her selling classified information, paying Russian operatives for 'dirt' on her opponent, and selling 20% of our uranium to Putin.
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Post by palealeman on Apr 8, 2018 16:43:13 GMT -5
I tried, RJ, I really did, but after less than a minute is was clear that you story about "fake news" was nothing more than right-wing propaganda. PragerU? Are you serious? Try this for a source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_newsI realize that Wikipedia is a compilation from whomever contributes, but I'll take it over PragerU. In the context today, fake news is whatever President Trump disagrees with. That's pretty much everything except Fox (where he gets his agenda and marching orders) and Breitbart. Sorry you have a problem with legitimate news sources, sources that take the time to verify facts before they report them. However, that just another facet of your continued unthinking partisan bias. If it's left of John Birch, you think it's too liberal for you. Maybe some day you'll learn how to serious review facts on all sides of an issue and make a decision on you own, without resorting to you alt-right talking points. But I doubt it. You'd rather wallow in ignorance.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 8, 2018 19:08:05 GMT -5
I tried, RJ, I really did, but after less than a minute is was clear that you story about "fake news" was nothing more than right-wing propaganda. PragerU? Are you serious? Try this for a source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_newsI realize that Wikipedia is a compilation from whomever contributes, but I'll take it over PragerU. In the context today, fake news is whatever President Trump disagrees with. That's pretty much everything except Fox (where he gets his agenda and marching orders) and Breitbart. Sorry you have a problem with legitimate news sources, sources that take the time to verify facts before they report them. However, that just another facet of your continued unthinking partisan bias. If it's left of John Birch, you think it's too liberal for you. Maybe some day you'll learn how to serious review facts on all sides of an issue and make a decision on you own, without resorting to you alt-right talking points. But I doubt it. You'd rather wallow in ignorance. We all know you're deep in the echo chamber. Break out of it. The video explains the problem using facts and provides examples. Question what you're being told, and question authority. It is increasingly at odds with reality. It wasn't prepared for President Trump precisely because the media won't leave the echo chamber.
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Post by redleg on Apr 9, 2018 9:55:56 GMT -5
I tried, RJ, I really did, but after less than a minute is was clear that you story about "fake news" was nothing more than right-wing propaganda. PragerU? Are you serious? Try this for a source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_newsI realize that Wikipedia is a compilation from whomever contributes, but I'll take it over PragerU. In the context today, fake news is whatever President Trump disagrees with. That's pretty much everything except Fox (where he gets his agenda and marching orders) and Breitbart. Sorry you have a problem with legitimate news sources, sources that take the time to verify facts before they report them. However, that just another facet of your continued unthinking partisan bias. If it's left of John Birch, you think it's too liberal for you. Maybe some day you'll learn how to serious review facts on all sides of an issue and make a decision on you own, without resorting to you alt-right talking points. But I doubt it. You'd rather wallow in ignorance. Fox News and Breitbart are 2 of the very few legitimate news organizations left. All the ones you imbibe with your mother's milk are Party of the KKK propaganda outlets. CNN, the Communist News Network, in particular, have thrown away all the credibility they ever had when they started with the fake dossier, insisting it was all legitimate even after the FBI and their hero Comey said in public it was scurrilous and unprovable. They have had to retract more stories every week than Fox has since The Puppet was immaculated. They are liars, and have the same agenda as their paymasters in the Party of the KKK.
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Post by palealeman on Apr 9, 2018 21:06:44 GMT -5
I tried, RJ, I really did, but after less than a minute is was clear that you story about "fake news" was nothing more than right-wing propaganda. PragerU? Are you serious? Try this for a source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_newsI realize that Wikipedia is a compilation from whomever contributes, but I'll take it over PragerU. In the context today, fake news is whatever President Trump disagrees with. That's pretty much everything except Fox (where he gets his agenda and marching orders) and Breitbart. Sorry you have a problem with legitimate news sources, sources that take the time to verify facts before they report them. However, that just another facet of your continued unthinking partisan bias. If it's left of John Birch, you think it's too liberal for you. Maybe some day you'll learn how to serious review facts on all sides of an issue and make a decision on you own, without resorting to you alt-right talking points. But I doubt it. You'd rather wallow in ignorance. We all know you're deep in the echo chamber. Break out of it. The video explains the problem using facts and provides examples. Question what you're being told, and question authority. It is increasingly at odds with reality. It wasn't prepared for President Trump precisely because the media won't leave the echo chamber. Maybe I'm deep, RJ, but you've been in one for years . . . and the windows are blacked out. I listened to the entire Klaven video. It's 5 minutes I'll never have again. It's a totally biased video demeaning the left -- which is something I'd expect you to post. Interesting article I saw on line today. More people trust CNN and MSNBC than trust Fox, by a fairly wide margin. You claim fake news on the left. I claim honest reporting, reporting that is corroborated by at least one other source. You claim Fox is honest and accurate. Statistics, as I've point out before, show otherwise -- Fox is more biased and untruthful and any other main cable media source. You want to keep listening to Fox and Brietbart? Fine, do. But understand that you learning nothing but fake news. But, since you boy want to spread distrust of the media, wants to call into doubt the ability of law enforcement to do it's job, and wants to set himself up as the font of truth so that he can bring about his totalitarian regime, keep believing what you do. Found it funny that you called me a facist, when, in fact, you're the one who disagrees with the media for the most part and wants the media to present you point of view. I do read from various sources. I do question authority. I'm not a shilll for the right and alt-right as you are. I don't accept sexual harassment as a normal event, though you not only seem to accept it, but your own admission you seem to practice it. I like your line above -- "The video explains the problem using facts . . . ." We all know that you have a problem with facts. That is the problem -- you have no grasp of facts except the "alternative facts" and "fake news" coming out of the White House and your right wing sites. Maybe, some day, you'll actually come to know the truth. But I doubt it. You seem more content to continue to wallow in you unthinking partisanship. i guess ignorance can be bliss. Fortunately, I'll never find out myself.
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Post by Ranger John on Apr 9, 2018 21:15:22 GMT -5
We all know you're deep in the echo chamber. Break out of it. The video explains the problem using facts and provides examples. Question what you're being told, and question authority. It is increasingly at odds with reality. It wasn't prepared for President Trump precisely because the media won't leave the echo chamber. Maybe I'm deep, RJ, but you've been in one for years . . . and the windows are blacked out. I listened to the entire Klaven video. It's 5 minutes I'll never have again. It's a totally biased video demeaning the left -- which is something I'd expect you to post. Interesting article I saw on line today. More people trust CNN and MSNBC than trust Fox, by a fairly wide margin. You claim fake news on the left. I claim honest reporting, reporting that is corroborated by at least one other source. You claim Fox is honest and accurate. Statistics, as I've point out before, show otherwise -- Fox is more biased and untruthful and any other main cable media source. You want to keep listening to Fox and Brietbart? Fine, do. But understand that you learning nothing but fake news. But, since you boy want to spread distrust of the media, wants to call into doubt the ability of law enforcement to do it's job, and wants to set himself up as the font of truth so that he can bring about his totalitarian regime, keep believing what you do. Found it funny that you called me a facist, when, in fact, you're the one who disagrees with the media for the most part and wants the media to present you point of view. I do read from various sources. I do question authority. I'm not a shilll for the right and alt-right as you are. I don't accept sexual harassment as a normal event, though you not only seem to accept it, but your own admission you seem to practice it. I like your line above -- "The video explains the problem using facts . . . ." We all know that you have a problem with facts. That is the problem -- you have no grasp of facts except the "alternative facts" and "fake news" coming out of the White House and your right wing sites. Maybe, some day, you'll actually come to know the truth. But I doubt it. You seem more content to continue to wallow in you unthinking partisanship. i guess ignorance can be bliss. Fortunately, I'll never find out myself. No. You're not a shill for the right. You're a shill for the FAR left. That's why you absolutely HAVE to lie about things I've said and make bogus accusations. And for some reason, you think co-workers occasionally sharing a hug is some form of sexual harassment. I mean, how sexually repressed are you? Seriously... that IS fascist. Finally, Donald Trump is the ultimate proof of what Klavan says in that video. The media is SO biased and SO out of touch with reality, they didn't see him coming. And now, a year into his presidency, and 2 years into the Russia investigation, all they've managed to do is turn him into a martyr. The ship has probably sailed on impeachment... It absolutely has barring new information. All the Muller probe is accomplishing now is proving how real and out of control the deep state really is. Yet the media keeps pushing this story... Because it too is out of control.
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Post by redleg on Apr 10, 2018 8:59:43 GMT -5
We all know you're deep in the echo chamber. Break out of it. The video explains the problem using facts and provides examples. Question what you're being told, and question authority. It is increasingly at odds with reality. It wasn't prepared for President Trump precisely because the media won't leave the echo chamber. Maybe I'm deep, RJ, but you've been in one for years . . . and the windows are blacked out. The Left demeans itself. It's a totalitarian ideology, exactly in line with Stalin, Hitler, Castro, and all the other dictators that your masters love so much. That's why they do their best to shut down any speech that contradicts their echo chamber. Who ran the poll? What were the questions? And you have to remember, many of these "polls" tend to poll millenials, who have been indoctrinated since birth with the Communist Manifesto. The "corroboration" is almost always either the source that gave them the "news" to begin with, or some "unnamed source", which is the local drunk on the street corner. The Puppet, the Felon, and the rest of the Party of the KKK spent 8 years corrupting law enforcement to the point that they are far more akin to the GRU or the Stazi than the FBI of TV and radio. They are now a political weapon that The Puppet is still using to undo a legal election, just because he can't stand the fact that Trump is undoing his "legacy" far faster than he managed to impose it. So Trump is telling the truth, and your masters can't abide the sunshine. So, disagreeing with the media is now the definition of "fascist"? I thought it was voting for Trump, disagreeing with the BLS or LBGTACAMTM+SMENOTK DLENTENESNT movement? And you are the one that wants to put all firepower in the hands of the government, under Trump. DC comics and The Onion are not viable "news" sources. I like your line above -- "The video explains the problem using facts . . . ." We all know that you have a problem with facts. That is the problem -- you have no grasp of facts except the "alternative facts" and "fake news" coming out of the White House and your right wing sites. Maybe, some day, you'll actually come to know the truth. But I doubt it. You seem more content to continue to wallow in you unthinking partisanship. i guess ignorance can be bliss. Fortunately, I'll never find out myself.
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