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Post by Ranger John on May 30, 2018 14:53:48 GMT -5
How many times does the failing president have to be caught in lies before you stop believing him? How many has he been "caught" in? Real lies, not the propaganda being pushed by the LR media? PAM still thinks Trump lied when he called out the NYT for lying about a staffer claiming a June 12 summit would be impossible. |
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Post by palealeman on May 30, 2018 18:46:28 GMT -5
Latest count is over 6,000 since inauguration, commie.
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Post by palealeman on May 30, 2018 18:47:23 GMT -5
So what you're saying, RJ, is you don't care if the failing president lies or not. It's all the same to you.
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Post by redleg on May 30, 2018 19:05:49 GMT -5
Latest count is over 6,000 since inauguration, commie. First, no one you know, or who gives you your talking points, can count that high. Second, nearly every one of the "lies" that he's been accused of, by your masters in the LR media, have turned out to be true. Like the fact that The Puppet was spying on him, the fact that there is no "senior official" that said the summit was impossible, or the fact that Kushner didn't have the Wikileaks emails before they came out. You have been lied to so often that you have no idea what the truth is about much of anything. |
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Post by redleg on May 30, 2018 19:06:58 GMT -5
So what you're saying, RJ, is you don't care if the failing president lies or not. It's all the same to you. No, you didn't care that The Puppet lied to everyone every time he opened his mouth. But he's not President any more, and neither is The Felon, despite The Puppet's crimes committed to ensure that she would be. |
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Post by Ranger John on May 31, 2018 6:44:50 GMT -5
So what you're saying, RJ, is you don't care if the failing president lies or not. It's all the same to you. Given so many of the lies have been fabricated by the media, no. I don't really care. Even the lies you were all hot and bothered about on the last page were mostly trivial. Whether or not the new tax law will add to the deficit remains to be seen, so it isn't even a lie. Trump's military pay raise is the largest in 10 years. And "catch and release" was continued under Obama. It is at least as much Democrat as Republican. |
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Post by palealeman on May 31, 2018 9:58:43 GMT -5
Good to know that you're happy with a failing president who has no inkling what the truth is.
And, for the record, RJ, the military pay raise was the largest in 8 years, not 10. But the failing president claimed it was the first raise in 10 years, which is clearly a lie on his part. But that's OK with you, right? Who cares what he says?
And, if you'd bother to read something besides the unthinking partisan fake news sites that keep you uninformed, you'd know that the "tax cuts" are projected to increase the deficit significantly.But, again, that would involve you visiting sites that report real news, not the fake news found on Fox, Breitbard, and the Federalist.
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Post by Ranger John on May 31, 2018 10:48:19 GMT -5
Good to know that you're happy with a failing president who has no inkling what the truth is. You have no inkling what the truth is. Your responses to my OP is proof. You're fussing over the fine details on this in order to create an issue where there really isn't one. The size and timing of a pay raise is trivia, not an issue that is deeply important to the country. How often are economic forecasts accurate? While I will concede that it is unlikely that Trump's prediction will come true, it is not impossible that the increased economic activity that has resulted from the tax cuts will off set the revenue lost. This is a prediction. No one who understands what a prediction is, would call it a lie. In the unlikely event it comes true, will you admit that you lied about it? I doubt you have that much integrity. |
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Post by palealeman on May 31, 2018 11:46:51 GMT -5
In the unlikely event that the failing president's "prediction" comes true, I will be happy to admit that I was wrong. Not lied, but wrong. But, since trickle-down has never worked and has only caused recession, I don't think I have much to worry about. Will you admit that you and the failing president are wrong when the deficit increases by a trillion or so?
Your continual acceptance of the lies of the failing president and your defending him make me wonder about your character, RJ. How much "truth" is there in your life? How much of what you tell you boss is accurate? What does a little inaccuracy matter, a lie here or there or, more accurately, everywhere about everything? How do we know that anything you say is truthful? When you ask the habitual liar is he's telling the truth and he says, "Yes," is that another lie? On the other hand, when you get all your information from Fox, Breitbart, Federalist, and you accept what the failing president says without hesitation, your untruthfulness is to be expected.
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Post by Ranger John on May 31, 2018 12:12:24 GMT -5
In the unlikely event that the failing president's "prediction" comes true, I will be happy to admit that I was wrong. Not lied, but wrong. Great. Can you accept the fact that if Trump turns out to be wrong, then he was wrong about it, and not a liar? Trickle down has, in fact, worked. See: Kennedy, John F. I will admit that Trump was wrong if the debt increases because of the tax cut. However, I said that he is unlikely to be right, and that whether or not the debt increases remains to be seen. In other words what I've said is correct. How many Trump lies-that-aren't-really-lies are you going to swallow before you choke on your own ignorance? And way to try and make this about my job again. WTF is wrong with you? I know this is a common leftist tactic to try and intimidate anyone who expresses heresy, but seriously take your comments about my employment and stuff them where the sun don't shine. |
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Post by aboutwell on May 31, 2018 12:42:03 GMT -5
There is a difference between being wrong and lying... I have said here many times that one cannot lie unless they know what the truth is about the issue or matter... I have taken a lot of criticism for saying that... thank goodness now the chickens are coming home to roost and others are seeming to understand that as well...
But make no mistake... Donald Trump has told many outright lies... unless, of course, he's just to damned stupid to know the truth... which is entirely possible...
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Post by palealeman on May 31, 2018 14:42:58 GMT -5
Good point, Aboutwell. However, I think being wrong can also be lying. And I like your last little paragraph. I don't think the failing president colluded with the Russians himself. I think his campaign staff probably did. But the failing president isn't smart enough to pull off something like that, and if he had he'd have bragged about it by now.
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Post by palealeman on May 31, 2018 14:47:04 GMT -5
Another of your mistruths or misstatements, RJ. Kennedy was not a trickle-down guy. I realize that you unthinking partisans on the right try to co-opt whatever and whoever you can, but this one can't be done. , www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/01/26/the-myth-of-jfk-as-supply-side-tax-cutterOf course, when you accept lies as common events and don't understand truth, what else can we expect the unthinking partisans to do in an attempt to support a failing president. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jun 1, 2018 7:15:29 GMT -5
Another of your mistruths or misstatements, RJ. Kennedy was not a trickle-down guy. I realize that you unthinking partisans on the right try to co-opt whatever and whoever you can, but this one can't be done. , www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/01/26/the-myth-of-jfk-as-supply-side-tax-cutterOf course, when you accept lies as common events and don't understand truth, what else can we expect the unthinking partisans to do in an attempt to support a failing president. He cut taxes, and revenue went up. It isn't really that hard to understand why, either. The Laffer Curve is a real thing. When taxes go up too much, the economy shrinks. When they go down, it grows. Taking a bigger piece of a shrinking pie, eventually you run out of other peoples money. Taking a small piece of a growing pie, and you can end up with a larger piece over time. Again, I don't know if that is what will happen, and I am skeptical. But the economic theory behind it is rational. As for this "lies" nonsense you keep spewing, I get it. You're terrified and desperate. This "failing" president's poll numbers keep going up, his party is flush with cash (and the alternative is struggling), and the mid-term poll numbers went from heavily favoring Democrats to being more or less a dead heat. Desperation is a stinky cologne, PAM, and you're doused in it. I'd suggest finding a therapist. You need one now, and things are only going to get worse for you until you wake up and realize you're being owned by the liars in the media. |
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Post by redleg on Jun 1, 2018 16:31:03 GMT -5
Good to know that you're happy with a failing president who has no inkling what the truth is. And, for the record, RJ, the military pay raise was the largest in 8 years, not 10. But the failing president claimed it was the first raise in 10 years, which is clearly a lie on his part. But that's OK with you, right? Who cares what he says? And, if you'd bother to read something besides the unthinking partisan fake news sites that keep you uninformed, you'd know that the "tax cuts" are projected to increase the deficit significantly.But, again, that would involve you visiting sites that report real news, not the fake news found on Fox, Breitbard, and the Federalist. "Failing"? I guess you use the "Progessive" definition: a President that accomplishes over half of what he promised, in his first year, improves the economy, posts record low unemployment, record high black employment, destroys the "Progressive" agenda of the Marxist that preceeded him, lowered taxes, raised income, and brought NK to the bargaining table. Who says the tax cuts are "projected to increase the deficit? The same ones that said the economy under The Puppet was the best we could hope for? The same ones that said 50% unemployment and record numbers on welfare and food stamps was the "new normal"? Really? And how did the tax cuts "increase the deficit", if it does? Couldn't possibly be because the Party of the KKK demanded record payouts to their parasites, illegals, and criminals, now could it? |
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Post by redleg on Jun 1, 2018 16:33:08 GMT -5
In the unlikely event that the failing president's "prediction" comes true, I will be happy to admit that I was wrong. Not lied, but wrong. But, since trickle-down has never worked and has only caused recession, I don't think I have much to worry about. Will you admit that you and the failing president are wrong when the deficit increases by a trillion or so? Your continual acceptance of the lies of the failing president and your defending him make me wonder about your character, RJ. How much "truth" is there in your life? How much of what you tell you boss is accurate? What does a little inaccuracy matter, a lie here or there or, more accurately, everywhere about everything? How do we know that anything you say is truthful? When you ask the habitual liar is he's telling the truth and he says, "Yes," is that another lie? On the other hand, when you get all your information from Fox, Breitbart, Federalist, and you accept what the failing president says without hesitation, your untruthfulness is to be expected. You keep thinking The Puppet is still President. He's not. Trump is now President, and succeeding far beyond the wildest dreams of the anti American Party of the KKK. Except he's rebuilding the country that The Puppet and his Merry Marxists did their best to destroy. And are still trying to do so. |
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Post by redleg on Jun 1, 2018 16:37:01 GMT -5
There is a difference between being wrong and lying... I have said here many times that one cannot lie unless they know what the truth is about the issue or matter... I have taken a lot of criticism for saying that... thank goodness now the chickens are coming home to roost and others are seeming to understand that as well... But make no mistake... Donald Trump has told many outright lies... unless, of course, he's just to damned stupid to know the truth... which is entirely possible... Actually, it's the LR media that's been lying, continually, intentionally, and with malice aforethought. They wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ankle. As I've said, nearly everything the LR media has called a "lie" has turned out to the the truth, once the actual information, not from an "unnamed source" ( the drunk on the corner, or some anti Trumper planted by The Puppet). He was spied on by The Puppet's regime, Mueller is conducting a witch hunt, NK is coming to the table, Syria is The Puppet's fault, and so is Russia. If the FBI planted a spy in the Trump campaign "to protect Trump", why didn't they also plant one in The Felon's campaign? Is it because they knew she was already owned by Putin, and was a known enemy? |
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Post by redleg on Jun 1, 2018 16:39:00 GMT -5
Good point, Aboutwell. However, I think being wrong can also be lying. And I like your last little paragraph. I don't think the failing president colluded with the Russians himself. I think his campaign staff probably did. But the failing president isn't smart enough to pull off something like that, and if he had he'd have bragged about it by now. You are still confusing Trump with The Puppet and The Felon. No one in Trump's campaign "colluded" with Russia, or anyone else. The Felon not only "colluded", but sold classified information to Putin as Sec State, paid Putin operatives for faked 'dirt' on Trump, and sent people to the Ukraine to get them involved in the election. So, why isn't the FBI investigating her and her campaign? |
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Post by palealeman on Jun 5, 2018 17:36:12 GMT -5
So today, RJ, we get another twist. The failing president "uninvites" the Eagles to the White House, saying it's because they, along with other NFL teams, refused to stand for the anthem. In fact, the Eagle players all stood during the anthem during all games in the 2017 season. The fact is that many of them just don't want to be seen with the failing president.
You want to try to explain why the failing president's tweets on this matter -- claiming the Eagles did not stand for the anthem -- are not lies on his part? I'm looking forward to how you spin this one.
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Post by Ranger John on Jun 5, 2018 19:11:54 GMT -5
So today, RJ, we get another twist. The failing president "uninvites" the Eagles to the White House, saying it's because they, along with other NFL teams, refused to stand for the anthem. In fact, the Eagle players all stood during the anthem during all games in the 2017 season. The fact is that many of them just don't want to be seen with the failing president. You want to try to explain why the failing president's tweets on this matter -- claiming the Eagles did not stand for the anthem -- are not lies on his part? I'm looking forward to how you spin this one. Again, a football team visiting the White House is trivial. I don't care about this. It doesn't involve anyone who isn't a multi-millionaire having a hissy-fit over nonsense. |
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Post by redleg on Jun 5, 2018 20:50:38 GMT -5
Latest count is over 6,000 since inauguration, commie. Wrong. Neither you nor any of your masters can count that high, even with computer assistance. You are simply regurgitating more Leftist propaganda. |
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Post by redleg on Jun 5, 2018 20:51:44 GMT -5
So today, RJ, we get another twist. The failing president "uninvites" the Eagles to the White House, saying it's because they, along with other NFL teams, refused to stand for the anthem. In fact, the Eagle players all stood during the anthem during all games in the 2017 season. The fact is that many of them just don't want to be seen with the failing president. You want to try to explain why the failing president's tweets on this matter -- claiming the Eagles did not stand for the anthem -- are not lies on his part? I'm looking forward to how you spin this one. It was also because it would be pointless, since only about 10 players responded that they would attend. Why have an event for 10 people? |
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Post by palealeman on Jun 6, 2018 12:59:22 GMT -5
So today, RJ, we get another twist. The failing president "uninvites" the Eagles to the White House, saying it's because they, along with other NFL teams, refused to stand for the anthem. In fact, the Eagle players all stood during the anthem during all games in the 2017 season. The fact is that many of them just don't want to be seen with the failing president. You want to try to explain why the failing president's tweets on this matter -- claiming the Eagles did not stand for the anthem -- are not lies on his part? I'm looking forward to how you spin this one. Again, a football team visiting the White House is trivial. I don't care about this. It doesn't involve anyone who isn't a multi-millionaire having a hissy-fit over nonsense. Actually, RJ, it does involve a multimillionaire having a hissy-fit over nonsense. But, since you support the lying serial sexual predator and failing president who is having the hissy-fit, you don't care, because it's what he has done, does, and will continue to do. |
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Post by Ranger John on Jun 6, 2018 13:18:18 GMT -5
Again, a football team visiting the White House is trivial. I don't care about this. It doesn't involve anyone who isn't a multi-millionaire having a hissy-fit over nonsense. Actually, RJ, it does involve a multimillionaire having a hissy-fit over nonsense. But, since you support the lying serial sexual predator and failing president who is having the hissy-fit, you don't care, because it's what he has done, does, and will continue to do. Aww... were you disinvited? |
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Post by palealeman on Jun 6, 2018 14:52:05 GMT -5
Sorry, RJ, not a wealthy person. Just someone trying to make ends meet.
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