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Post by 3000fps on Jul 13, 2018 10:54:20 GMT -5
Again, this isn't true. Human trafficking is very common on the border. It is important for ICE to insure the children are with the people they're supposed to be with. I don't believe you support child sex trafficking, but that's the alternative to detaining kids. It is absolutely true. Trumpublicans like Jim Jordon like to see children at risk.Looks like a dog pound doesn't it? The inept fool before Trump stepped on his husbands wiener or so it seems.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 13, 2018 11:25:35 GMT -5
Again, this isn't true. Human trafficking is very common on the border. It is important for ICE to insure the children are with the people they're supposed to be with. I don't believe you support child sex trafficking, but that's the alternative to detaining kids. It is absolutely true. Trumpublicans like Jim Jordon like to see children at risk. Again, family separation on the border was Obama administration policy as well, and for good reason. There is a TON of human trafficking going on there. As for Jim Jordan, a baseless accusation coming out before an election, based on something that happened 30 years ago, is pure political garbage.
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Post by palealeman on Jul 13, 2018 16:34:15 GMT -5
There you go again, RJ. Rumors of sexual harassment and abuse are no problem as long as they're 10 or more years old.
"Baseless" accusations? At least 4 separate students report telling Jordan about the problem and he does nothing. But, as you like to say, it doesn't matter. On the other hand, if Jordan were a Democrat, you'd be all over this. Remember what happened at Penn State. Looks very similar here, at least on face value.
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Post by demopublican on Jul 13, 2018 17:51:33 GMT -5
It is absolutely true. Trumpublicans like Jim Jordon like to see children at risk. Again, family separation on the border was Obama administration policy as well, and for good reason. There is a TON of human trafficking going on there. As for Jim Jordan, a baseless accusation coming out before an election, based on something that happened 30 years ago, is pure political garbage. I already acknowledged long time ago the border enforcement has been unpleasant business for a long time. But Trump and Miller used it to fire up as racist base. And look! It worked on you!
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 13, 2018 19:01:52 GMT -5
There you go again, RJ. Rumors of sexual harassment and abuse are no problem as long as they're 10 or more years old. "Baseless" accusations? At least 4 separate students report telling Jordan about the problem and he does nothing. But, as you like to say, it doesn't matter. On the other hand, if Jordan were a Democrat, you'd be all over this. Remember what happened at Penn State. Looks very similar here, at least on face value. No one has claimed they told Jordan anything. This claim is from 30 years ago, when Jordan was an assistant nobody. It has come up now because of the election, and for no other reason. It's partisan hackery at its finest.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 13, 2018 19:02:53 GMT -5
Again, family separation on the border was Obama administration policy as well, and for good reason. There is a TON of human trafficking going on there. As for Jim Jordan, a baseless accusation coming out before an election, based on something that happened 30 years ago, is pure political garbage. I already acknowledged long time ago the border enforcement has been unpleasant business for a long time. But Trump and Miller used it to fire up as racist base. And look! It worked on you! It also worked on me when racist Nazi Obama was doing the exact same thing.
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Post by palealeman on Jul 13, 2018 21:01:42 GMT -5
Not quite that far back, RJ. Jordan worked at OSU from '86 to '94. Several students have said that the doctor's actions were common knowledge, and several have said that they told Jordan. Jordan denies everything. Sounds a little like Trump and the video.
This is the same thing Joe Paterno did -- nothing. Jordan needs to be held accountable. Although I'm sure you'll continue you mind-numbing unthinking partisan "It doesn't matter." Sorry to see that you have no morals, no ethics, no sense of right and wrong, no values of any sort. Sorry you're a Republican.
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Post by redleg on Jul 13, 2018 21:22:38 GMT -5
I think we all understand that as a nation we have to have immigration laws and policies. I am sure there have been sad stories and unfortunate side effects of those laws/policies for a long long time. What is particularly disturbing is when someone uses the separation of families and a weapon and a dog whistle to rile the base and deflect from his own legal/ethical issues. That is what is disgusting Do you think someone did that here? Separation of families goes back to the Obama era, and given the very high levels of sexual exploitation and trafficking of women and girls on the border, I think we have an obligation to ensure the children detained at the border are actually with family. Obama got that right, and Trump has basically only continued the practice, albeit a little more stringently. No one wants to see children detained, but far too often the alternative to detention is trafficking or sexual abuse. Given the choice is between separating and detaining them or exposing them to a lifetime of sexual slavery, it's hard to understand the outrage over the former. It isn't ideal in any sense, but it is considerably better than the even more horrific alternative. It goes back further than that. Bush, and Clinton both separated families. It's unavoidable if the law is to be followed. The adults and the kids have to be separated, at least until the authorities can prove whether they are actually related or whether it's a child trafficker, a drug mule, or just a random adult that grabbed a kid to look more appealing to the authorities.
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Post by redleg on Jul 13, 2018 21:25:48 GMT -5
Do you think someone did that here? Separation of families goes back to the Obama era, and given the very high levels of sexual exploitation and trafficking of women and girls on the border, I think we have an obligation to ensure the children detained at the border are actually with family. Obama got that right, and Trump has basically only continued the practice, albeit a little more stringently. No one wants to see children detained, but far too often the alternative to detention is trafficking or sexual abuse. Given the choice is between separating and detaining them or exposing them to a lifetime of sexual slavery, it's hard to understand the outrage over the former. It isn't ideal in any sense, but it is considerably better than the even more horrific alternative. Absolutely Trump and his crew promoted the weaponization of border security to fire up his base. No question about it. What you call "weaponization" is Trump simply enforcing the law. If the Party of the KKK doesn't like it, they are the ones to change the law. They are Congressmen. You know, the ones that make the laws that The Puppet ignored. The fact that the Party of the KKK suddenly sees enforcing the laws they passed as "racist" simply show that they have no business making laws. Or holding any power at all. Especially since "illegal alien" is not a race, neither is "Muslim".
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Post by redleg on Jul 13, 2018 21:28:22 GMT -5
“No one wants to see children detained” The Trumpublicans clearly did and enjoyed the hell out of it. No, it's been the Party of the KKK that has refused to even try to correct the situation. Even when Trump acceded to their hysterical demands, they castigated him for it. They don't want the issue resolved, because that would deprive them of another tool to further degrade the country. Just like school shootings, which they promote, and orgasm over, they don't want solutions, they want propaganda slogans.
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Post by redleg on Jul 13, 2018 21:34:23 GMT -5
There you go again, RJ. Rumors of sexual harassment and abuse are no problem as long as they're 10 or more years old. "Baseless" accusations? At least 4 separate students report telling Jordan about the problem and he does nothing. But, as you like to say, it doesn't matter. On the other hand, if Jordan were a Democrat, you'd be all over this. Remember what happened at Penn State. Looks very similar here, at least on face value. At least 2 of the accusers are, like all the Party of the KKK useful idiots, criminals, scam artists, and swindlers. Why did they wait 30 years to bring the accusations? How much is the Party of the KKK paying them to make their accusations? How long before they disappear into the garbage bin of history like Stormy Daniels, or the women that accused Cain? As for sexual abuse, you are the one claiming that there is something wrong with making sure that the adults with the kids are actually their parents. At least 3 convicted and deported sexual predators have been caught coming back across the border, just in the last week or so. I guess you have no problem with releasing sexual predators in the US as long as they are illegal Democrats.
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Post by redleg on Jul 13, 2018 21:39:28 GMT -5
Again, family separation on the border was Obama administration policy as well, and for good reason. There is a TON of human trafficking going on there. As for Jim Jordan, a baseless accusation coming out before an election, based on something that happened 30 years ago, is pure political garbage. I already acknowledged long time ago the border enforcement has been unpleasant business for a long time. But Trump and Miller used it to fire up as racist base. And look! It worked on you! So, Islam is now a "race"? Illegal alien is now a "race"? Protecting your home is now racist, because the invaders might not be the same skin color? It's the Party of the KKK that uses race as a substitute for thought. When everything is racist, nothing is.
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Post by demopublican on Jul 13, 2018 21:44:33 GMT -5
“No one wants to see children detained” The Trumpublicans clearly did and enjoyed the hell out of it. No, it's been the Party of the KKK that has refused to even try to correct the situation. Even when Trump acceded to their hysterical demands, they castigated him for it. They don't want the issue resolved, because that would deprive them of another tool to further degrade the country. Just like school shootings, which they promote, and orgasm over, they don't want solutions, they want propaganda slogans. Party of the KKK. Go away grandpa
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Post by redleg on Jul 13, 2018 21:48:17 GMT -5
Not quite that far back, RJ. Jordan worked at OSU from '86 to '94. Several students have said that the doctor's actions were common knowledge, and several have said that they told Jordan. Jordan denies everything. Sounds a little like Trump and the video. This is the same thing Joe Paterno did -- nothing. Jordan needs to be held accountable. Although I'm sure you'll continue you mind-numbing unthinking partisan "It doesn't matter." Sorry to see that you have no morals, no ethics, no sense of right and wrong, no values of any sort. Sorry you're a Republican. No, it sounds far more like The Puppet. He "didn't know" about The Felon's secret server until it was in the news, yet he was sending to it. He didn't know about the problems on the border until he "read it in the news", but he could ignore the Constitution to "fix" it. "Common knowledge" doesn't even indicate that Jordan know anything about it. How many professors or coaches are privy to everything that the students are up to? And as I've said, at least 2 of the "students" have criminal records, or are under investigation for fraud, swindling, and false advertising. So, what were they promised by the Party of the KKK to make their accusations?
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Post by demopublican on Jul 13, 2018 21:54:09 GMT -5
No, it's been the Party of the KKK that has refused to even try to correct the situation. Even when Trump acceded to their hysterical demands, they castigated him for it. They don't want the issue resolved, because that would deprive them of another tool to further degrade the country. Just like school shootings, which they promote, and orgasm over, they don't want solutions, they want propaganda slogans. Party of the KKK. Go away grandpa I didn’t say any of those things were races. But I did say Trump's base is racist. Which it is and the whole world knows it.
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Post by 3000fps on Jul 13, 2018 23:28:52 GMT -5
Party of the KKK. Go away grandpa I didn’t say any of those things were races. But I did say Trump's base is racist. Which it is and the whole world knows it.Shame that those that actually count don't agree with your racist claims.
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 14, 2018 7:28:41 GMT -5
Not quite that far back, RJ. Jordan worked at OSU from '86 to '94. Several students have said that the doctor's actions were common knowledge, and several have said that they told Jordan. Jordan denies everything. Sounds a little like Trump and the video. This is the same thing Joe Paterno did -- nothing. Jordan needs to be held accountable. Although I'm sure you'll continue you mind-numbing unthinking partisan "It doesn't matter." Sorry to see that you have no morals, no ethics, no sense of right and wrong, no values of any sort. Sorry you're a Republican. Jordan was an assistant coach. He was no where near in the same place Paterno was. If the doctor's actions actually were common knowledge, an assistant coach saying something isn't going to accomplish a damn thing, because the problem is a systemic problem at the university.
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Post by demopublican on Jul 14, 2018 9:35:44 GMT -5
I didn’t say any of those things were races. But I did say Trump's base is racist. Which it is and the whole world knows it.Shame that those that actually count don't agree with your racist claims. Oh everyone agrees. The racists know they are racists. They just don’t admit it in public
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Post by Ranger John on Jul 14, 2018 10:04:33 GMT -5
Shame that those that actually count don't agree with your racist claims. Oh everyone agrees. The racists know they are racists. They just don’t admit it in public How can you tell the difference when the policies are basically identical?
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Post by redleg on Jul 14, 2018 10:10:34 GMT -5
No, it's been the Party of the KKK that has refused to even try to correct the situation. Even when Trump acceded to their hysterical demands, they castigated him for it. They don't want the issue resolved, because that would deprive them of another tool to further degrade the country. Just like school shootings, which they promote, and orgasm over, they don't want solutions, they want propaganda slogans. Party of the KKK. Go away grandpa Again, the Party of the KKK excoriates anyone that ever in their lives said anything that they can deem "racist", but the slaveholders, authors of Jim Crow, segregation, and separate but equal, and the founders and supporters of the KKK, well, they are blameless, because "virtue". They are the Party of the KKK. It was their founding principle, and is still their main plank of their platform. Racism is what they are built on, what they proclaim, and all they stand for.
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Post by redleg on Jul 14, 2018 10:12:02 GMT -5
Party of the KKK. Go away grandpa I didn’t say any of those things were races. But I did say Trump's base is racist. Which it is and the whole world knows it. No, the Party of the KKK is racist, and accuses Trump and his supporters to hide that fact. "The whole world" doesn't know it, because it's the Party of the KKK that says it. Known liars and racists.
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Post by demopublican on Jul 14, 2018 11:44:12 GMT -5
Oh everyone agrees. The racists know they are racists. They just don’t admit it in public How can you tell the difference when the policies are basically identical? I am speaking of the promotion of the policies as a dog whistle to racists. He launched his campaign with his attack on Mexican rapists.
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Post by demopublican on Jul 14, 2018 11:44:58 GMT -5
I didn’t say any of those things were races. But I did say Trump's base is racist. Which it is and the whole world knows it. No, the Party of the KKK is racist, and accuses Trump and his supporters to hide that fact. "The whole world" doesn't know it, because it's the Party of the KKK that says it. Known liars and racists. That is just such a tired and idiotic argument.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Jul 14, 2018 12:01:10 GMT -5
Shame that those that actually count don't agree with your racist claims. Oh everyone agrees. The racists know they are racists. They just don’t admit it in public This sounds like you are admitting you are a racist. You just won't admit it in public. Got it.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Jul 14, 2018 12:03:16 GMT -5
How can you tell the difference when the policies are basically identical? I am speaking of the promotion of the policies as a dog whistle to racists. He launched his campaign with his attack on Mexican rapists. So who is listening to these dog whistles? Hmmmmm? Seems like you lefties protest too much, and of course project your own inner problems on the right. Which party only sees race, not character, or ability?
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