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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 16:18:31 GMT -5
Record revenue.Still a $680 billion deficit. The congress critters still have a spending problem.
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 16:48:50 GMT -5
Probably explains the low approval rating
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 16:49:26 GMT -5
But doesn't explain the voting patterns!
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 30, 2013 16:54:05 GMT -5
actually it does explain them The people are voting themselves money from the treasury even tho the money isn't there
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 18:02:30 GMT -5
actually it does explain them The people are voting themselves money from the treasury even tho the money isn't there That's because we elect businessmen and lawyers and they run the government like a business and how lawyers would run anything.
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 30, 2013 18:15:07 GMT -5
They don't really care to run the government except as a way to buy votes so they can keep their cushy jobs
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 18:18:32 GMT -5
Term limits are needed sooner rather then later.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 30, 2013 18:37:33 GMT -5
That's because we elect businessmen and lawyers and they run the government like a business and how lawyers would run anything. No business could run the way the government runs for very long and succeed.
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 18:40:48 GMT -5
That's besides the point it is run like a business. I didn't say whether it was a bad or good business.
that's because their profit is taxes . Guaranteed income for the business in question here
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 18:48:22 GMT -5
That's because we elect businessmen and lawyers and they run the government like a business and how lawyers would run anything. No business could run the way the government runs for very long and succeed. Bingo!!
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Post by Moses on Oct 30, 2013 18:50:46 GMT -5
No business could run the way the government runs for very long and succeed. Bingo!! Hope you didn't vote for Romney!
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 31, 2013 7:48:10 GMT -5
Hope you didn't vote for Romney! Hope you didn't vote for Obama!
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Post by aponderer on Oct 31, 2013 8:11:22 GMT -5
Record revenue.Still a $680 billion deficit. The congress critters still have a spending problem. Remember, in order to "reduce" the deficit, the gov't borrows money, and that borrowed money (although debt) is treated like income. The more money the gov't borrows, the more the deficit is "reduced." And that borrowed money increases the national debt. IF, and that's a big IF, the national debt were ever to go down in any fiscal year, that would mean that the gov't actually had a surplus, and some or all of that surplus was applied to reducing the debt (not just paying interest on the debt). When the national debt is actually reduced, then you can get back to me about how the deficit that year was actually reduced without borrowing money to cover it. I'm not holding my breath...
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Post by douger on Oct 31, 2013 8:13:15 GMT -5
Record revenue.Still a $680 billion deficit. The congress critters still have a spending problem. Remember, in order to "reduce" the deficit, the gov't borrows money, and that borrowed money (although debt) is treated like income. The more money the gov't borrows, the more the deficit is "reduced." And that borrowed money increases the national debt. IF, and that's a big IF, the national debt were ever to go down in any fiscal year, that would mean that the gov't actually had a surplus, and some or all of that surplus was applied to reducing the debt (not just paying interest on the debt). When the national debt is actually reduced, then you can get back to me about how the deficit that year was actually reduced without borrowing money to cover it. I'm not holding my breath... Oh. You mean like how Clinton "balanced" the budget.
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Post by aponderer on Oct 31, 2013 8:14:44 GMT -5
actually it does explain them The people are voting themselves money from the treasury even tho the money isn't there That's because we elect businessmen and lawyers and they run the government like a business and how lawyers would run anything. They are not running the gov't like a business if the debt keeps increasing. Businesses are not allowed to lend themselves money to reduce their budget deficits.
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Post by Moses on Oct 31, 2013 12:05:32 GMT -5
Hope you didn't vote for Romney! Hope you didn't vote for Obama! Are you guys a tag team? Think I was talking to mom.
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Post by Moses on Oct 31, 2013 12:06:57 GMT -5
That's because we elect businessmen and lawyers and they run the government like a business and how lawyers would run anything. They are not running the gov't like a business if the debt keeps increasing. Businesses are not allowed to lend themselves money to reduce their budget deficits. Except the government isn't a business. They are running it like one. Gads do I have to hold your hand thru this?
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Post by Moses on Oct 31, 2013 12:09:14 GMT -5
Remember, in order to "reduce" the deficit, the gov't borrows money, and that borrowed money (although debt) is treated like income. The more money the gov't borrows, the more the deficit is "reduced." And that borrowed money increases the national debt. IF, and that's a big IF, the national debt were ever to go down in any fiscal year, that would mean that the gov't actually had a surplus, and some or all of that surplus was applied to reducing the debt (not just paying interest on the debt). When the national debt is actually reduced, then you can get back to me about how the deficit that year was actually reduced without borrowing money to cover it. I'm not holding my breath... Oh. You mean like how Clinton "balanced" the budget. Clinton still tears you righties up. Awesome!!! Since you bring up good ol Bill, Does this we can finally discuss Bush? Lol
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 31, 2013 12:37:20 GMT -5
Except the government isn't a business. They are running it like one. Gads do I have to hold your hand thru this? They're not running it like a successful business.
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Post by Moses on Oct 31, 2013 12:42:05 GMT -5
Except the government isn't a business. They are running it like one. Gads do I have to hold your hand thru this? They're not running it like a successful business. It's not a business it's a government! The governments income is your tax money. You do not want the government to be "a successful business" unless you enjoy paying taxes ! get it? Stopped electing businessman lawyers and people that become lobbyists after they retire.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 31, 2013 13:22:09 GMT -5
No, but it needs to adopt a key provision from successful businesses: outgo cannot exceed income. Well, not indefinitely, anyhoo. And since people, except socialists [1], already feel taxed enough, that means government needs to decrease spending until it is LESS than income - and use the difference to pay down the debt.
[1] Socialists feel taxed enough, too. It's anyone wealthier than them that they believe isn't taxed enough.
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Post by Moses on Oct 31, 2013 13:26:44 GMT -5
No, but it needs to adopt a key provision from successful businesses: outgo cannot exceed income. Well, not indefinitely, anyhoo. And since people, except socialists [1], already feel taxed enough, that means government needs to decrease spending until it is LESS than income - and use the difference to pay down the debt. [1] Socialists feel taxed enough, too. It's anyone wealthier than them that they believe isn't taxed enough.I would prefer if it wasn't run like a business at all. It needs a major change of philosophy and man.... Does it ever need to shrink or what?
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 31, 2013 14:21:57 GMT -5
Hope you didn't vote for Obama! Are you guys a tag team? Think I was talking to mom. And I was talking to you. I didn't realize this was a private board.
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Post by aponderer on Oct 31, 2013 17:01:05 GMT -5
No, but it needs to adopt a key provision from successful businesses: outgo cannot exceed income. Well, not indefinitely, anyhoo. And since people, except socialists [1], already feel taxed enough, that means government needs to decrease spending until it is LESS than income - and use the difference to pay down the debt. [1] Socialists feel taxed enough, too. It's anyone wealthier than them that they believe isn't taxed enough.I would prefer if it wasn't run like a business at all. It needs a major change of philosophy and man.... Does it ever need to shrink or what? I wish the gov't were run like a business: a business that needs to tighten it's belt, not tighten a noose on its stockholders.
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Post by Moses on Oct 31, 2013 17:33:05 GMT -5
Are you guys a tag team? Think I was talking to mom. And I was talking to you. I didn't realize this was a private board. It's not!
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