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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 9:19:24 GMT -5
I think they fully understand how it works and will use this to further demonize the insurance companies in a effort to push for a single payer system. Health insurance provided and admintsered by a Government that can't even tell you how many people have signed up and/or paid. You know... didn't insurance salesmen replace used car salesmen several years ago as the most untrusted people on the planet?... I believe they did... Who'd on your trusted list?... (like what's in your wallet... )... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> Yeah, it's kind of like a lesser of two evils thing.
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 9:20:06 GMT -5
I was going to respond... but, why bother... I'm watching a UFO show on TV already... Its ok we didn't need another screed
Demonizing Doctors and Insurance companies anyway.
I see who's on your trusted list... Insurance is a scam... and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 9:48:16 GMT -5
Its ok we didn't need another screed
Demonizing Doctors and Insurance companies anyway.
I see who's on your trusted list... Insurance is a scam... and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> At least previously it was your choice to be scammed, not so much anymore.
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Post by redleg on Mar 31, 2014 10:09:28 GMT -5
Its ok we didn't need another screed
Demonizing Doctors and Insurance companies anyway.
I see who's on your trusted list... Insurance is a scam... and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> And the criminals in government saw all that money and decided they should get it instead of those that work for it.
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 10:19:39 GMT -5
I see who's on your trusted list... Insurance is a scam... and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> At least previously it was your choice to be scammed, not so much anymore. Well... not exactly... lotta people don't want to have to purchase things like auto insurance either... and don't want to pay taxes that support things they don't like or participate in or benefit from... everybody (that owns property) pays things like school taxes... even though they may not have kids in the schools... or ever even had kids, period... Health insurance can be good when you are faced with those high medical bills that are so high because of those who don't have insurance... and because doctors and medical facilities know the insurance companies are going to pay whatever they can charge... (within reach... "reasonable and customary," you know... which is still too damn high)... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 31, 2014 14:35:14 GMT -5
Why? Because it enables people to pay for medical procedures they'd otherwise have to avoid? Do insurance companies seek profit first? Sure. And that's the part Obama and his advisers do not seem to understand. The fact that they don't understand capitalism is one reason why they're not competent to mess with it. and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... Yeah, we wouldn't want a person who spends four undergraduate years, four graduate years, an intern and three or four residency years and then a fellowship to have any chance for a return on that investment. We sure wouldn't want to pay the few people capable of doing that kind of work salaries that encourage them to enter the profession.
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Post by rocketwolf on Mar 31, 2014 14:49:53 GMT -5
Its ok we didn't need another screed
Demonizing Doctors and Insurance companies anyway.
I see who's on your trusted list... Insurance is a scam... and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> I trust Doctors until they prove that they are untrustworthy, I have never had that happen yet. Insurance is useful used correctly and with care.
You seem so desperate to demonize doctors, to "prove" your political beliefs, it makes me wonder if you even use them. Unless of course you just post such hate and silliness to get a rise out of the rest of us.
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Post by stevez51 on Mar 31, 2014 14:58:34 GMT -5
We have a winner.....
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Post by rentedmule on Mar 31, 2014 15:12:34 GMT -5
I think they fully understand how it works and will use this to further demonize the insurance companies in a effort to push for a single payer system. Health insurance provided and admintsered by a Government that can't even tell you how many people have signed up and/or paid. You know... didn't insurance salesmen replace used car salesmen several years ago as the most untrusted people on the planet?... I believe they did... Who'd on your trusted list?... (like what's in your wallet... )... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> If you believe such, why do you even have insurance? Maybe you don't! You may have MediCare! Not insurance but a way to be on the dole and still take the moral high ground?
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 15:39:46 GMT -5
I see who's on your trusted list... Insurance is a scam... and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> I trust Doctors until they prove that they are untrustworthy, I have never had that happen yet. Insurance is useful used correctly and with care.
You seem so desperate to demonize doctors, to "prove" your political beliefs, it makes me wonder if you even use them. Unless of course you just post such hate and silliness to get a rise out of the rest of us.
Please, Rocketwolf... point out even one single instance shere I demonized any doctor or doctors... Thank you in advance... and I don't use doctors very often... have had the same ONE for many years... I have been blessed with excellent health so far... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 15:43:32 GMT -5
Why? Because it enables people to pay for medical procedures they'd otherwise have to avoid? Do insurance companies seek profit first? Sure. And that's the part Obama and his advisers do not seem to understand. The fact that they don't understand capitalism is one reason why they're not competent to mess with it. and doctors have made fortunes off of them... I know it... looks like you don't... Yeah, we wouldn't want a person who spends four undergraduate years, four graduate years, an intern and three or four residency years and then a fellowship to have any chance for a return on that investment. We sure wouldn't want to pay the few people capable of doing that kind of work salaries that encourage them to enter the profession. Insurance companies, like all other businesses, are in business to make $$$... how greedy they are is the question... but I have no problem with an individual making a good living... it does kinda bother me when they do it by exploiting others who have not had the same opportunities and/or abilities as others... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 15:47:06 GMT -5
You know... didn't insurance salesmen replace used car salesmen several years ago as the most untrusted people on the planet?... I believe they did... Who'd on your trusted list?... (like what's in your wallet... )... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> If you believe such, why do you even have insurance? Maybe you don't! You may have MediCare! Not insurance but a way to be on the dole and still take the moral high ground? I do have several types of insurance... but I am very careful about it and who I buy it from... And I AM on Medicare... my former employer force me to sign up when I turned 65... but I'm still on my old policy as well... for which I do still pay a premium... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 31, 2014 15:51:10 GMT -5
it does kinda bother me when they do it by exploiting others who have not had the same opportunities and/or abilities as others... So, because I'm smart enough to be an engineer, I should give a portion of my salary to some guy who's dumber? Just because he's dumber? Sorry, can't vote for that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 16:03:56 GMT -5
it does kinda bother me when they do it by exploiting others who have not had the same opportunities and/or abilities as others... So, because I'm smart enough to be an engineer, I should give a portion of my salary to some guy who's dumber? Just because he's dumber? Sorry, can't vote for that. That is part of Obama's plan for better healthcare.
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 16:13:38 GMT -5
it does kinda bother me when they do it by exploiting others who have not had the same opportunities and/or abilities as others... So, because I'm smart enough to be an engineer, I should give a portion of my salary to some guy who's dumber? Just because he's dumber? Sorry, can't vote for that. And I didn't say that either... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 18:06:50 GMT -5
So, because I'm smart enough to be an engineer, I should give a portion of my salary to some guy who's dumber? Just because he's dumber? Sorry, can't vote for that. That is part of Obama's plan for better healthcare. This is part of his plan for a better everything. Somehow he's going to eliminate all inequality.
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Post by Cuchulain on Mar 31, 2014 18:26:08 GMT -5
That is part of Obama's plan for better healthcare. This is part of his plan for a better everything. Somehow he's going to eliminate all inequality. Everything's cool until they run out of OUR money!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 18:33:36 GMT -5
This is part of his plan for a better everything. Somehow he's going to eliminate all inequality. Everything's cool until they run out of OUR money! Actually it's not even cool from the start. We are simply not equal from birth. We all have different skills, aptitudes, abilities, etc. You simply can't level the playing field, EVER!
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Post by Cuchulain on Mar 31, 2014 18:49:16 GMT -5
Everything's cool until they run out of OUR money! Actually it's not even cool from the start. We are simply not equal from birth. We all have different skills, aptitudes, abilities, etc. You simply can't level the playing field, EVER! The only place the Least Common Denominator is of any value is in elementary school arithmetic. The "equalization" will not be effectuated by increasing the wealth of the common working stiff - it will be effectuated by dragging the hard-working, productive members of society down to the level of the lumpenprols.
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Post by rocketwolf on Mar 31, 2014 20:19:43 GMT -5
I trust Doctors until they prove that they are untrustworthy, I have never had that happen yet. Insurance is useful used correctly and with care.
You seem so desperate to demonize doctors, to "prove" your political beliefs, it makes me wonder if you even use them. Unless of course you just post such hate and silliness to get a rise out of the rest of us.
Please, Rocketwolf... point out even one single instance shere I demonized any doctor or doctors... Thank you in advance... and I don't use doctors very often... have had the same ONE for many years... I have been blessed with excellent health so far... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden"> From 10 hours ago
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 31, 2014 21:42:24 GMT -5
That's "demonizing?"... saying they have made their fortunes off of something... you gotta be kidding...
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Post by rocketwolf on Mar 31, 2014 22:49:22 GMT -5
That's "demonizing?"... saying they have made their fortunes off of something... you gotta be kidding... Well to do most maybe. but fortunes not many, but Hollywood plastic surgeons often do I guess.
And so what, it takes a lot of money and time to be a doctor and then work long hours
If you can claim all doctors have made easy fortunes I can claim all union members are over paid loafers.
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Post by redleg on Apr 1, 2014 8:41:14 GMT -5
According the the LR media this morning, The Puppet and his Merry Marxists have coerced, cajoled, bribed, and threatened enough people to reach nearly 7 million. However, they can't tell anyone how many have paid, or even signed up for a policy, how many were previously uninsured, or how many signed up for Medicaid. That means they are lying about the whole thing. Again.
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Post by aboutwell on Apr 1, 2014 9:15:35 GMT -5
That's "demonizing?"... saying they have made their fortunes off of something... you gotta be kidding... Well to do most maybe. but fortunes not many, but Hollywood plastic surgeons often do I guess.
And so what, it takes a lot of money and time to be a doctor and then work long hours
If you can claim all doctors have made easy fortunes I can claim all union members are over paid loafers.
Most doctors I know are rather "well off" when compared to the public in general... and it takes a lot of time and $$$ to be a school teacher... and they work long hours as well... but then I didn't say anything about "fortunes" coming easy... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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Post by aboutwell on Apr 1, 2014 9:19:13 GMT -5
According the the LR media this morning, The Puppet and his Merry Marxists have coerced, cajoled, bribed, and threatened enough people to reach nearly 7 million. However, they can't tell anyone how many have paid, or even signed up for a policy, how many were previously uninsured, or how many signed up for Medicaid. That means they are lying about the whole thing. Again. I saw that report... but I didn't see the words "coerced, cajoled, bribed, or threatened" anywhere in it... I did see where it said it would be some time before all the numbers are in... it's a big program... can't expect it overnight... <input id="mac_address" value="" type="hidden">
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