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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 16, 2014 21:54:14 GMT -5
They also ignore the chicanery of The Puppet. However, this woman was not only a DA, but either part of, or the head of, a corruption unit. Rick Perry is toast.......... Is he? He forced a drunk to step down. I'd hardly call that irresponsible governing. He isn't even convicted yet. We're also still waiting for your camp to produce evidence of actual wrongdoing by Chris Christie; we hear a lot of rhetoric, but no proof from places like Daily Kos and CommonDreams.
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Post by middleoftheroad on Aug 16, 2014 22:01:44 GMT -5
They also ignore the chicanery of The Puppet. However, this woman was not only a DA, but either part of, or the head of, a corruption unit. Rick Perry is toast.......... Let's see...he can't run for Governor again, only has a few months left in office anyway and had little chance of being nominated for the Presidency, never mind winning the general. This doesn't ever go to trial.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 16, 2014 22:15:14 GMT -5
At 64, he's too old to run for the presidency. If he won and lasted two terms he'd be well into his 70s. No, thanks.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 17, 2014 9:17:02 GMT -5
Rick Perry is toast.......... Is he? He forced a drunk to step down. I'd hardly call that irresponsible governing. He isn't even convicted yet. We're also still waiting for your camp to produce evidence of actual wrongdoing by Chris Christie; we hear a lot of rhetoric, but no proof from places like Daily Kos and CommonDreams. Is it your contention that Rick Perry ever had a real shot at the Republican nomination for President of the United States?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 17, 2014 10:20:51 GMT -5
Is it your contention that Rick Perry ever had a real shot at the Republican nomination for President of the United States? I don't know. The Republicans are capable of shockingly bad judgement, so maybe. And before you say they're alone... the Dems might stand Hillary, which would be a mistake of Brobdingnagian proportion. For the country, not their party - she can probably win. But they ought to do better. Party, however, is all they care about. Just like the Republicans you score for that.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 17, 2014 10:33:31 GMT -5
Is it your contention that Rick Perry ever had a real shot at the Republican nomination for President of the United States? I don't know. The Republicans are capable of shockingly bad judgement, so maybe. And before you say they're alone... the Dems might stand Hillary, which would be a mistake of Brobdingnagian proportion. For the country, not their party - she can probably win. But they ought to do better. Party, however, is all they care about. Just like the Republicans you score for that. I hear complaints of candidates not having enough experience from the right, have been posted many times about Obama, here comes someone that has decades of experience and they complain about her also. I believe that the Repubs know that Hillary is going to win, and are doing their damnedest to discredit her, starting with Benghazi. The Repubs need to fix their party, not just run on tearing down of another party.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 17, 2014 11:29:15 GMT -5
She has the experience. But she's too old for me. Like Perry. My criterion is 62, and it's arbitary: I proceed from the assumption, generally accurate in the modern era, that a president will serve eight years, and I'd prefer them be out of office by 70. Most people are in really good shape until 70, but I have seen too many decline sharply after that. Many more don't, but... this person runs the currently most powerful country in the world, we should be careful selecting.
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Post by aponderer on Aug 17, 2014 11:36:00 GMT -5
She has the experience. But she's too old for me. Like Perry. My criterion is 62, and it's arbitary: I proceed from the assumption, generally accurate in the modern era, that a president will serve eight years, and I'd prefer them be out of office by 70. Most people are in really good shape until 70, but I have seen too many decline sharply after that. Many more don't, but... this person runs the currently most powerful country in the world, we should be careful selecting. She has the "experience," but does she learn from her mistakes? If she runs, she'll likely win if she promises more freebies... [Bread and spectacle only go so far; ask the Romans...]
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Post by kashmir on Aug 17, 2014 11:44:37 GMT -5
She has the experience. But she's too old for me. Like Perry. My criterion is 62, and it's arbitary: I proceed from the assumption, generally accurate in the modern era, that a president will serve eight years, and I'd prefer them be out of office by 70. Most people are in really good shape until 70, but I have seen too many decline sharply after that. Many more don't, but... this person runs the currently most powerful country in the world, we should be careful selecting. She has the "experience," but does she learn from her mistakes? If she runs, she'll likely win if she promises more freebies... [Bread and spectacle only go so far; ask the Romans...]Freebies? Like those 'Free Obama cell phones' that the Righties got completely wrong? It was actually Reagan that started that program……now lets watch the Righties heads implode……….
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Post by kashmir on Aug 17, 2014 11:47:07 GMT -5
Rick Perry is toast.......... Is he? He forced a drunk to step down. I'd hardly call that irresponsible governing. He isn't even convicted yet. We're also still waiting for your camp to produce evidence of actual wrongdoing by Chris Christie; we hear a lot of rhetoric, but no proof from places like Daily Kos and CommonDreams. I bet we would be calling out half the Congress and House if we looked at all the drunks and forced them to step down….. Psst, alcoholism is a disease, and you get treatment for diseases.
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Post by rocketwolf on Aug 17, 2014 12:33:46 GMT -5
I don't know. The Republicans are capable of shockingly bad judgement, so maybe. And before you say they're alone... the Dems might stand Hillary, which would be a mistake of Brobdingnagian proportion. For the country, not their party - she can probably win. But they ought to do better. Party, however, is all they care about. Just like the Republicans you score for that. I hear complaints of candidates not having enough experience from the right, have been posted many times about Obama, here comes someone that has decades of experience and they complain about her also. I believe that the Repubs know that Hillary is going to win, and are doing their damnedest to discredit her, starting with Benghazi. The Repubs need to fix their party, not just run on tearing down of another party. Strange you never mention any faults of Democrats, but just tear down Republicans. So you never attempt to fix anything either.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 17, 2014 12:43:03 GMT -5
Rick Perry is toast.......... Let's see...he can't run for Governor again, only has a few months left in office anyway and had little chance of being nominated for the Presidency, never mind winning the general. This doesn't ever go to trial. Perry is not term limited... he's served for 14 years... Texas is one of 14 states which does not limit the term of their governor...
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Post by vosa on Aug 17, 2014 13:03:38 GMT -5
Is he? He forced a drunk to step down. I'd hardly call that irresponsible governing. He isn't even convicted yet. We're also still waiting for your camp to produce evidence of actual wrongdoing by Chris Christie; we hear a lot of rhetoric, but no proof from places like Daily Kos and CommonDreams. Is it your contention that Rick Perry ever had a real shot at the Republican nomination for President of the United States? If he never had a real shot at the Republican nomination then what's toasty about him? Your comment ranks right up there with the guy who said he didn't care what I said and then accused me of insulting him. Ron Smith may be dead but the logic free zone, aka Absurdistan, lives on.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 17, 2014 13:15:30 GMT -5
Is it your contention that Rick Perry ever had a real shot at the Republican nomination for President of the United States? I don't know. The Republicans are capable of shockingly bad judgement, so maybe. And before you say they're alone... the Dems might stand Hillary, which would be a mistake of Brobdingnagian proportion. For the country, not their party - she can probably win. But they ought to do better. Party, however, is all they care about. Just like the Republicans you score for that. Can the Democrats do better? The obvious bench seems to consist of O'Malley, Joe Biden, and Elizabeth Warren. Maybe John Kerrey again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 13:19:52 GMT -5
John Kerry wil never get the military vote.
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Post by Moses on Aug 17, 2014 13:29:05 GMT -5
John Kerry wil never get the military vote. You mean you will never get the traitorous right wing military vote. Who cares about them? They're not even patriotic.
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Post by Moses on Aug 17, 2014 13:30:44 GMT -5
I don't know. The Republicans are capable of shockingly bad judgement, so maybe. And before you say they're alone... the Dems might stand Hillary, which would be a mistake of Brobdingnagian proportion. For the country, not their party - she can probably win. But they ought to do better. Party, however, is all they care about. Just like the Republicans you score for that. Can the Democrats do better? The obvious bench seems to consist of O'Malley, Joe Biden, and Elizabeth Warren. Maybe John Kerrey again. I dare you to actually write a post about the Republicans chances without talking about Democrats. I wonder if this Rush Limbaugh stuff is starting to psychologically damage right-wingers thinking. They seem incapable of doing anything without worrying about liberals. Maybe deep down inside, they know the Liberals are superior that's why they can't help but talk about them.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 17, 2014 14:40:59 GMT -5
John Kerry wil never get the military vote. It's difficult to imagine that any Democrat would.
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Post by Moses on Aug 17, 2014 14:49:51 GMT -5
John Kerry wil never get the military vote. It's difficult to imagine that any Democrat would. So the military enjoyed their time in Iraq?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 17, 2014 15:49:03 GMT -5
I bet we would be calling out half the Congress and House if we looked at all the drunks and forced them to step down….. Psst, alcoholism is a disease, and you get treatment for diseases. Sure. A self-inflicted disease. A failure of will. Nothing prevents her from getting all the treatment she likes. Out of office. A drunk can't do that job. Actually, they can't do most jobs. Let her dry out, and if she can stay sober for awhile let her run again. There's no reason to keep her in office while we "hope" she can sober up.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 17, 2014 15:52:36 GMT -5
I wonder if this Rush Limbaugh stuff is starting to psychologically damage right-wingers thinking. They seem incapable of doing anything without worrying about liberals. Maybe deep down inside, they know the Liberals are superior that's why they can't help but talk about them. I find myself bemused by some of the things liberals think are good ideas. Like nationalized healthcare. One looks at them and tries, failing, to understand what kind of detachment from how economies actually work would lead to this kind of thinking.
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Post by vosa on Aug 17, 2014 16:18:43 GMT -5
Is he? He forced a drunk to step down. I'd hardly call that irresponsible governing. He isn't even convicted yet. We're also still waiting for your camp to produce evidence of actual wrongdoing by Chris Christie; we hear a lot of rhetoric, but no proof from places like Daily Kos and CommonDreams. I bet we would be calling out half the Congress and House if we looked at all the drunks and forced them to step down….. Psst, alcoholism is a disease, and you get treatment for diseases. Alcoholism is a disease. For that you get treatment. Driving drunk is not. For that you get arrested. I'm sure you would endorse MD's approach to this problem, e.g. Carl Snowden.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 17, 2014 16:22:01 GMT -5
I bet we would be calling out half the Congress and House if we looked at all the drunks and forced them to step down….. Psst, alcoholism is a disease, and you get treatment for diseases. Sure. A self-inflicted disease. A failure of will. Nothing prevents her from getting all the treatment she likes. Out of office. A drunk can't do that job. Actually, they can't do most jobs. Let her dry out, and if she can stay sober for awhile let her run again. There's no reason to keep her in office while we "hope" she can sober up. A self-inflicted disease, a failure of will. Nope don't find those terms in the DSM V……..
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Post by kashmir on Aug 17, 2014 16:26:29 GMT -5
I bet we would be calling out half the Congress and House if we looked at all the drunks and forced them to step down….. Psst, alcoholism is a disease, and you get treatment for diseases. Alcoholism is a disease. For that you get treatment. Driving drunk is not. For that you get arrested. I'm sure you would endorse MD's approach to this problem, e.g. Carl Snowden. And what do judges usually sentence 1st time drunk drivers to? Duh.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 17, 2014 16:31:29 GMT -5
A self-inflicted disease, a failure of will. Nope don't find those terms in the DSM V…….. We both know the DSM is a very fluid document. It once called homosexuality a mental illness. Politics enters into deciding what's a mental disorder and what isn't. So do corporate interests. Or did you think the makers of psychoactive drugs didn't market the idea that certain disorders are diagnosable to the various professional agencies, the better to sell those drugs? But let's put aside whether a drunk is ill or merely lacks will for the moment. Should a drunk be a district attorney? Would we send a soldier with no legs into combat? Put a Down Syndrome patient in charge of designing NASA's next space vehicle? However she got to be a drunk, that's what she is. She had to go.
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