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Post by rentedmule on Aug 22, 2014 8:01:36 GMT -5
You may not have noticed, but there is an immense difference between a self selected group and a conscripted group. Associations within a self selected group always return a value. Belonging to a quilting club I can assure you returns no "cash value". Or sharing poetry within a self selected group, or racing a Lotus Junior on the weekends. Or my favorite, drinking an afternoon beer at a redneck roadhouse....Now you're talking... although the value would probably be conditional on the price of the beer. Exactly! Something of value means there is a cost; either in money, effort, inconvenience or loss of leisure time. Based upon the immense time that Moses spends on this board I would guess that the "lost opportunity" cost is the price he pays to participate here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 8:05:09 GMT -5
No, my position is that EY's original statement did not accurately portray the general position of all Muslims elswhere. Well he didn't say all, now did he? We've already been there and done that.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 22, 2014 8:53:40 GMT -5
Well he didn't say all, now did he? We've already been there and done that. True, but you are the one who is nitpicking the meaning of his post, the least you can do is get it accurately. Why does it matter to you anyway? Do you really think he meant ALL muslims are jihadists?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 9:09:11 GMT -5
We've already been there and done that. True, but you are the one who is nitpicking the meaning of his post, the least you can do is get it accurately. Why does it matter to you anyway? Do you really think he meant ALL Muslims are jihadists? You have done and are still doing plenty of nitpicking yourself dude. And I think that EY would like his audience to think that all Muslims are jihadists, yes.
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Post by freddfish on Aug 22, 2014 9:56:33 GMT -5
Would that be an intrinsic value or a hard cash value? You may not have noticed, but there is an immense difference between a self selected group and a conscripted group. Associations within a self selected group always return a value. Belonging to a quilting club I can assure you returns no "cash value". Or sharing poetry within a self selected group, or racing a Lotus Junior on the weekends. Or my favorite, drinking an afternoon beer at a redneck roadhouse.... It takes a real man to cop to belonging to a quilting club. My hat's off to you, sir.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 22, 2014 10:01:05 GMT -5
You may not have noticed, but there is an immense difference between a self selected group and a conscripted group. Associations within a self selected group always return a value. Belonging to a quilting club I can assure you returns no "cash value". Or sharing poetry within a self selected group, or racing a Lotus Junior on the weekends. Or my favorite, drinking an afternoon beer at a redneck roadhouse.... It takes a real man to cop to belonging to a quilting club. My hat's off to you, sir. rentedmule is a renaissance man…..
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 22, 2014 12:21:15 GMT -5
Yes. If I'd meant all Muslims I'd have said all Muslims. It's not going to matter how many when things get ugly, though. Human nature being what it is. "Muslims everywhere" does not indicate 'some', to most of those that reside here it translates more to 'all'. But then you knew that really. Go reread my post. I said "elsewhere" not "everywhere". I'll expect your apology in the mail?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 14:44:34 GMT -5
"Muslims everywhere" does not indicate 'some', to most of those that reside here it translates more to 'all'. But then you knew that really. Go reread my post. I said "elsewhere" not "everywhere". I'll expect your apology in the mail? I've already posted the acknowledgement to my error elsewhere. If it pleases you, I will throw myself at you feet and apologize and ask your forgiveness. However, the slight alteration of from 'else' to 'every' where in this instance doesn't make the slightest difference to my post or position.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 22, 2014 15:20:43 GMT -5
I've already posted the acknowledgement to my error elsewhere. If it pleases you, I will throw myself at you feet and apologize and ask your forgiveness. However, the slight alteration of from 'else' to 'every' where in this instance doesn't make the slightest difference to my post or position. The request was tongue-in-cheek, which I conveyed with the emoticon.
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Post by rentedmule on Aug 22, 2014 16:30:08 GMT -5
You may not have noticed, but there is an immense difference between a self selected group and a conscripted group. Associations within a self selected group always return a value. Belonging to a quilting club I can assure you returns no "cash value". Or sharing poetry within a self selected group, or racing a Lotus Junior on the weekends. Or my favorite, drinking an afternoon beer at a redneck roadhouse.... It takes a real man to cop to belonging to a quilting club. My hat's off to you, sir. Sorry if I mislead you; I have never been a quilter. Mrs. Mule is. Just attempting to show that self selection in groups even though not financially rewarding does have value to those who "pay the price to do so". But, for sure men do value many self selected groups. Men DO quilt, and tatt and collect and restore antique dolls. Note: I neither write poetry (Mrs. Mule does) nor drive a race car (my son's FIL does). The drinking beer at a redneck roadhouse is very anecdotal.
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Post by freddfish on Aug 22, 2014 16:57:59 GMT -5
It takes a real man to cop to belonging to a quilting club. My hat's off to you, sir. Sorry if I mislead you; I have never been a quilter. Mrs. Mule is. Just attempting to show that self selection in groups even though not financially rewarding does have value to those who "pay the price to do so". But, for sure men do value many self selected groups. Men DO quilt, and tatt and collect and restore antique dolls. Note: I neither write poetry (Mrs. Mule does) nor drive a race car (my son's FIL does). The drinking beer at a redneck roadhouse is very anecdotal. Well....I have 2 cats, and am a closet ballet fan.
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