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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 20:36:18 GMT -5
We obviously haven't killed enough. How many have you killed redleg? Why do you care?
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 21:23:41 GMT -5
Who are you to define what is normal? You of all posters. That is just sooooo wrong. Less than 2% of the population. That makes it abnormal. An abberation. So, you not only support perversion, you support abnormality. Figures. I support LGBT more than I support you.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 21:26:45 GMT -5
Holy cow That's an explanation? I wish I had glossed over this. Good Lord. Talk about making some far-fetched excuses for bad behavior. And at the same time continuing with your prejudice toward Muslims. Your post was garbled, care to post it again. Maybe some stray cosmic rays got in the way when it was sent. You know how no one ever refers to any of your posts?
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 9:40:52 GMT -5
How many have you killed redleg? Why do you care? You just said on the post before this that we haven't killed enough. Who is the "we" that was going to do the killing? Why not you if you're so interested in someone killing people?
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Post by freddfish on Aug 21, 2014 10:36:05 GMT -5
You must admit that that Church has much to answer for over this. What saddens me is the degree to which rank and file Catholics give them a pass. I am going to assume you know that there is no equating the crimes and motives between these two religions. I personally know of no Catholics who give pedophile priests, or a covering up church a pass. I hear what you are saying, but I know a few Catholics who try to shove all this under the rug and minimize it. At best, they are blinded by bias, at worst, enablers.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 11:12:41 GMT -5
I am going to assume you know that there is no equating the crimes and motives between these two religions. I personally know of no Catholics who give pedophile priests, or a covering up church a pass. I hear what you are saying, but I know a few Catholics who try to shove all this under the rug and minimize it. At best, they are blinded by bias, at worst, enablers. Well I bow before your larger knowledge. (Truly) I don't know many Catholics, my wife was one but she didn't practice while we were together, her family is as well but the subject has never come up, knowing them as I do I wouldn't expect them to support the churches actions, but who knows they might. I still say that there is a difference between ISIS, and Catholic misbehavior and that it stems from the foundations of the religion, not the misbehavior of a few of it leaders. Can you imagine that this guy would be punished if caught by his own religious leaders? No I expect he would be a hero. Now the Catholics have possibly not punished its criminals, but they didn't celebrate what they did either. There is a difference between the two, I hope I have explained it well enough.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:14:43 GMT -5
I hear what you are saying, but I know a few Catholics who try to shove all this under the rug and minimize it. At best, they are blinded by bias, at worst, enablers. Well I bow before your larger knowledge. (Truly) I don't know many Catholics, my wife was one but she didn't practice while we were together, her family is as well but the subject has never come up, knowing them as I do I wouldn't expect them to support the churches actions, but who knows they might. I still say that there is a difference between ISIS, and Catholic misbehavior and that it stems from the foundations of the religion, not the misbehavior of a few of it leaders. Can you imagine that this guy would be punished if caught by his own religious leaders? No I expect he would be a hero. Now the Catholics have possibly not punished its criminals, but they didn't celebrate what they did either. There is a difference between the two, I hope I have explained it well enough. No. You really do seem to be coming from a biased anti-Muslim stance. It's ingrained or something. I don't get it. We used to see Muslims is a nice group of people that lived here in America.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 11:22:44 GMT -5
Well I bow before your larger knowledge. (Truly) I don't know many Catholics, my wife was one but she didn't practice while we were together, her family is as well but the subject has never come up, knowing them as I do I wouldn't expect them to support the churches actions, but who knows they might. I still say that there is a difference between ISIS, and Catholic misbehavior and that it stems from the foundations of the religion, not the misbehavior of a few of it leaders. Can you imagine that this guy would be punished if caught by his own religious leaders? No I expect he would be a hero. Now the Catholics have possibly not punished its criminals, but they didn't celebrate what they did either. There is a difference between the two, I hope I have explained it well enough. No. You really do seem to be coming from a biased anti-Muslim stance. It's ingrained or something. I don't get it. We used to see Muslims is a nice group of people that lived here in America. Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. link
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:32:11 GMT -5
No. You really do seem to be coming from a biased anti-Muslim stance. It's ingrained or something. I don't get it. We used to see Muslims is a nice group of people that lived here in America. Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkHow come America has killed more Muslims in the last, say, three or four decades then they have killed of us?
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:32:40 GMT -5
Sorry. I am not going to join into your stupid war on terror. It's becoming ridiculous.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:33:49 GMT -5
America, the supposed Christian nation, as more soldiers and military presence scattered across to the whole world then I'll bet that all the Muslim countries combined.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 11:35:03 GMT -5
Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkHow come America has killed more Muslims in the last, say, three or four decades then they have killed of us? Really? You don't know? You have never heard of Afganistan, or Iraq. There were wars there don't you know. We happen to be really good at fighting wars. Would you be happier if more Americans had been killed than Muslims?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 11:41:20 GMT -5
No. You really do seem to be coming from a biased anti-Muslim stance. It's ingrained or something. I don't get it. We used to see Muslims is a nice group of people that lived here in America. Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkThat's some weird site that you''ve linked to there fella, I hope that you remember it the next time you challenge the validity of someone else's link.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:48:15 GMT -5
How come America has killed more Muslims in the last, say, three or four decades then they have killed of us? Really? You don't know? You have never heard of Afganistan, or Iraq. There were wars there don't you know. We happen to be really good at fighting wars. Would you be happier if more Americans had been killed than Muslims? But you were just talking about how bloodthirsty Muslims were? Good Lord do I really have to explain this to you? Are you really this partisan that you couldn't absolutely not get what I was saying? So even though we've killed more of them than then they of us? They are the ones that are bloodthirsty? We are the ones Who have more soldiers over in their countries, and they're the ones that are bloodthirsty? You need to ask yourself some tough questions. I won't butt in!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:02:44 GMT -5
Really? You don't know? You have never heard of Afganistan, or Iraq. There were wars there don't you know. We happen to be really good at fighting wars. Would you be happier if more Americans had been killed than Muslims? But you were just talking about how bloodthirsty Muslims were? Good Lord do I really have to explain this to you? Are you really this partisan that you couldn't absolutely not get what I was saying? So even though we've killed more of them than then they of us? They are the ones that are bloodthirsty? We are the ones Who have more soldiers over in their countries, and they're the ones that are bloodthirsty? You need to ask yourself some tough questions. I won't butt in! What Hawgtp and Islamophobes can't grasp is that the very greater majority of the world's Muslims are not radicalised terrorists. There are 1.6 billions Muslims on this tiny planet... 1,600, 000,000 (that's a lot of noughts). Now, if they were all radicals, or even just a low percentage were, we would all have had our throats slit a long time ago.
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Post by freddfish on Aug 21, 2014 12:08:27 GMT -5
I hear what you are saying, but I know a few Catholics who try to shove all this under the rug and minimize it. At best, they are blinded by bias, at worst, enablers. Well I bow before your larger knowledge. (Truly) I don't know many Catholics, my wife was one but she didn't practice while we were together, her family is as well but the subject has never come up, knowing them as I do I wouldn't expect them to support the churches actions, but who knows they might. I still say that there is a difference between ISIS, and Catholic misbehavior and that it stems from the foundations of the religion, not the misbehavior of a few of it leaders. Can you imagine that this guy would be punished if caught by his own religious leaders? No I expect he would be a hero. Now the Catholics have possibly not punished its criminals, but they didn't celebrate what they did either. There is a difference between the two, I hope I have explained it well enough. You surely did, and I agree with pretty much all you have said. There is no comparison between murdering fundy Muslims and the current excesses of the Catholic Church, and anyone who tries to tell you different is a fool. For the reasons you state. One is done with religious approval (Muslims), while the other is done against the teachings of the Church.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 12:11:10 GMT -5
But you were just talking about how bloodthirsty Muslims were? Good Lord do I really have to explain this to you? Are you really this partisan that you couldn't absolutely not get what I was saying? So even though we've killed more of them than then they of us? They are the ones that are bloodthirsty? We are the ones Who have more soldiers over in their countries, and they're the ones that are bloodthirsty? You need to ask yourself some tough questions. I won't butt in! What Hawgtp and Islamophobes can't grasp is that the very greater majority of the world's Muslims are not radicalised terrorists. There are 1.6 billions Muslims on this tiny planet... 1,600, 000,000 (that's a lot of noughts). Now, if they were all radicals, or even just a low percentage were, we would all have had our throats slit a long time ago. It's so odd for him to sit there and call Muslims The bloodthirsty ones when I accurately point out we are the ones that seem more bloodthirsty if you add it all up.
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Post by freddfish on Aug 21, 2014 12:12:28 GMT -5
Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkSorry to all the apologists for Muslims, but I find this all too credible.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 12:23:32 GMT -5
Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkSorry to all the apologists for Muslims, but I find this all too credible. I'll tell the apologists when I see them. But I haven't seen any recently. No one likes The radical and violent Muslims that.kill.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 12:24:14 GMT -5
Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkThat's some weird site that you''ve linked to there fella, I hope that you remember it the next time you challenge the validity of someone else's link. So do you disagree with the statistics? Blaming the site while not addressing the content doesn't advance your argument.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:25:44 GMT -5
Is it bias, or being informed? When a religion has consistently shown itself to not wish to join the rest of the civilized religions is it my fault? Do some reading into what Islam teaches, and teaches today not 600 years ago. Look into the practices of Islam throughout the world. Now I know that the majority of Muslims are not committing the atrocities against the non muslims, but they are not protesting those atrocities either. Another interesting fact is how the percentage of Muslims in a country effects how they behave as a group. linkSorry to all the apologists for Muslims, but I find this all too credible. Did you look at the available pages on that crackpot link, if so did you find them credible too?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 12:27:34 GMT -5
But you were just talking about how bloodthirsty Muslims were? Good Lord do I really have to explain this to you? Are you really this partisan that you couldn't absolutely not get what I was saying? So even though we've killed more of them than then they of us? They are the ones that are bloodthirsty? We are the ones Who have more soldiers over in their countries, and they're the ones that are bloodthirsty? You need to ask yourself some tough questions. I won't butt in! What Hawgtp and Islamophobes can't grasp is that the very greater majority of the world's Muslims are not radicalised terrorists. There are 1.6 billions Muslims on this tiny planet... 1,600, 000,000 (that's a lot of noughts). Now, if they were all radicals, or even just a low percentage were, we would all have had our throats slit a long time ago. So can you explain how these Muslims are spread out through the globe? Then describe the countries where they have majorities in terms of civil rights, and support for minority religions? Seems to me that we will have our throats slit when they get a majority in the countries they are slowly taking over. Britain is leading the the US in that so I expect you will see it before we do. In fact you already are seeing the signs, you just ignore them. I am not saying that 1.6Billion Muslims are all joining the global Jihad and plan on exterminating the rest of the world, but they are certainly out breeding the rest of the civilized world, and while those Muslims may not be active participants they certainly aren't opposing those who are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:28:59 GMT -5
That's some weird site that you''ve linked to there fella, I hope that you remember it the next time you challenge the validity of someone else's link. So do you disagree with the statistics? Blaming the site while not addressing the content doesn't advance your argument. They are not statistics, they are the uttering of an opinion piece. If you want to advance your argument you are going to have to come up with far more credible source, and properly researched data.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 12:29:31 GMT -5
Sorry to all the apologists for Muslims, but I find this all too credible. Did you look at the available pages on that crackpot link, if so did you find them credible too? I would bet that if you searched you could find other sites with these statistics, maybe you can find a site that you don't think is crackpot. Do you deny the statistics, and the behavior of those countries with that statistic?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 12:31:29 GMT -5
So do you disagree with the statistics? Blaming the site while not addressing the content doesn't advance your argument. They are not statistics, they are the uttering of an opinion piece. If you want to advance your argument you are going to have to come up with far more credible source, and properly researched data. So the percentages given are not statistics? Do you deny their accuracy? Next do you deny that Muslims of a particular statistic do not do what the one liner says? Please quote the ones you disagree with and state what you think is really occurring. I didn't read the rest of the web site, and could care less. I have seen these statistics in other places so please feel free to refute each individual one, or even just one of them.
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