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Post by alienrace on Oct 17, 2014 11:35:37 GMT -5
Makes you wonder then, does The Puppet have ulterior motives? Is he trying to create a crisis big enough that he can claim "we don't need to change horses in the middle of the stream, so keep Dems ruining the country"? With the diseases his illegal Democrats are bringing in, Ebola, and all the scandals he's created, one wonders what his real goal is. People speculated similarly about Bush and the various violations of the Fourth Amendment encoded into the Patriot Act. And it didn't happen. I doubt seriously there's anything past incompetence going on here. Obama is without question the worst president of my lifetime, but I don't think he plans a despotism. I agree, this is about incompetence, and Obama being unwilling, or afraid to "offend" his base by restricting flights from African countries.
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 11:38:47 GMT -5
Makes you wonder then, does The Puppet have ulterior motives? Is he trying to create a crisis big enough that he can claim "we don't need to change horses in the middle of the stream, so keep Dems ruining the country"? With the diseases his illegal Democrats are bringing in, Ebola, and all the scandals he's created, one wonders what his real goal is. People speculated similarly about Bush and the various violations of the Fourth Amendment encoded into the Patriot Act. And it didn't happen. I doubt seriously there's anything past incompetence going on here. Obama is without question the worst president of my lifetime, but I don't think he plans a despotism. Define despotism. If he can terrify the LIV's enough, and get enough illegal Democrats imported, he can almost guarantee Dem majorities for decades, if not generations. Of course, the country will have imploded by the time enough people wake up, but he'll be gone by then, so who cares?
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 11:39:33 GMT -5
Ye god's! Finally realizing the damage he's doing?
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Post by vosa on Oct 17, 2014 12:18:21 GMT -5
Ye god's! Finally realizing the damage he's doing? I doubt BE could summon up the energy to provide a definitive response on that or any other question. Notice he is so lethargic that he could not rebut any of the points made or suggestions offered in this thread. Responses like "Ye god's!" seem to exhaust the poor chap.
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 17, 2014 12:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 12:51:30 GMT -5
First, I should have said Cleveland. That's the city where the Ebola infected nurse had gone to visit. Second, this isn't about vaccines. Viruses mutate often enough that we may never have an Ebola vaccine. This is about the CDC coming up with a solid strategy for containing the outbreak. Finally, the idea that the CDC, or any other federal agency is insufficient funded to do the job it is tasked with is INSANE. There is no federal agency that doesn't waste huge piles of taxpayer dollars every year doing stupid, and sometimes even counterproductive things. If these agencies were well run, they would be able to prioritize well enough no one would be able to raise all the questions about study is trying to figure out why fat people have trouble getting laid. Well, at least I can agree with you on the underlined part... they're gonna be doing something to "justify" their time... and you can bet they aren't going to support doing way with their jobs...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 12:57:00 GMT -5
This travel ban stuff is not rocket science, folks. Here are some facts: There is a small area in Africa where this outbreak has occurred, so we are not talking about stopping flights from the entire continent...although we could, without too much difficulty. Think outbreak in MD vs flights from all over North America They aren't flying into every regional airport in the CONUS...just the ones that handle int'l travel. Think Dulles, JFK, and a few others. There are only around 100-200 people flying into these airports from the affected region daily. This is hardly an unmanageable number. Simple plan then: 1. Stop the incoming flights from those countries/affected area, period. Also within a 500 mile radius to thwart people who might otherwise try anyway. 2. Quarantine the ones that have landed. 3. Examine the airline travel/passport/credit card records of those that have already entered; find, quarantine, and monitor them. Use the FBI to do it, and tell them to treat it with high priority as a threat to national security. Would this be foolproof? No, nothing ever is. But it could greatly reduce the number of people we are letting in that might be infected, thereby lessening the spread of the disease. We have all the resources we need to do this. In fact, there is only one thing we need to stop this outbreak before it gets started. LEADERSHIP
Makes you wonder then, does The Puppet have ulterior motives? Is he trying to create a crisis big enough that he can claim "we don't need to change horses in the middle of the stream, so keep Dems ruining the country"? With the diseases his illegal Democrats are bringing in, Ebola, and all the scandals he's created, one wonders what his real goal is. How many times have we heard this sh!* before?... he'll be gone in 26 months, Redleg... then you can complain about that woman...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 12:58:25 GMT -5
Oh, for God's sake... are you for real? As a heart attack. He's uparmed the police, politicized the DOJ, IRS, EPA, FCC, Dept of Ed, and the FBI to the point that Stalin would be ecstatic. He's ignored or actively violated the Constitution on multiple occasions, always to the detriment of the country. He's actively invited hundreds of thousands of illegals to simply invade us, with no medical or criminal screening, just so they can vote in our elections, and elect more Marxists. He's intentionally ignored outbreaks of multiple diseases, many of which we had almost eradicated in this country, but brought in by his illegal Democrats. He's not only ignored crimes by various departments he's responsible for, but actively interfered and obstructed investigations. So why wouldn't I wonder what his real motives are, especially since he declared that he was going to 'fundamentally transform' the US into a third world country, incapable of even defending itself? Damn, Redleg... what hasn't he done?... called fire up from hell?...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 13:00:37 GMT -5
Makes you wonder then, does The Puppet have ulterior motives? Is he trying to create a crisis big enough that he can claim "we don't need to change horses in the middle of the stream, so keep Dems ruining the country"? With the diseases his illegal Democrats are bringing in, Ebola, and all the scandals he's created, one wonders what his real goal is. People speculated similarly about Bush and the various violations of the Fourth Amendment encoded into the Patriot Act. And it didn't happen. I doubt seriously there's anything past incompetence going on here. Obama is without question the worst president of my lifetime, but I don't think he plans a despotism. Obama has spoken live several times over the last few days... spoke pretty well... was it really him?... or was it a body double?... I didn't see a teleprompter... And you must have been born after Ronald Reagan... right?...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 13:04:11 GMT -5
People speculated similarly about Bush and the various violations of the Fourth Amendment encoded into the Patriot Act. And it didn't happen. I doubt seriously there's anything past incompetence going on here. Obama is without question the worst president of my lifetime, but I don't think he plans a despotism. I agree, this is about incompetence, and Obama being unwilling, or afraid to "offend" his base by restricting flights from African countries. One of Jimmy Carter's biggest downfalls was his trying to please everybody without offending anybody... that can't be done... While being the most educated President up to that time... his heart was bigger than his head...
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 13:06:31 GMT -5
Makes you wonder then, does The Puppet have ulterior motives? Is he trying to create a crisis big enough that he can claim "we don't need to change horses in the middle of the stream, so keep Dems ruining the country"? With the diseases his illegal Democrats are bringing in, Ebola, and all the scandals he's created, one wonders what his real goal is. How many times have we heard this sh!* before?... he'll be gone in 26 months, Redleg... then you can complain about that woman... Will he? Or will he simply don a skirt and run again? And given the destruction he's unleashing on the country, every thinking American should not only complain, but demand his impeachment.
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 13:07:28 GMT -5
As a heart attack. He's uparmed the police, politicized the DOJ, IRS, EPA, FCC, Dept of Ed, and the FBI to the point that Stalin would be ecstatic. He's ignored or actively violated the Constitution on multiple occasions, always to the detriment of the country. He's actively invited hundreds of thousands of illegals to simply invade us, with no medical or criminal screening, just so they can vote in our elections, and elect more Marxists. He's intentionally ignored outbreaks of multiple diseases, many of which we had almost eradicated in this country, but brought in by his illegal Democrats. He's not only ignored crimes by various departments he's responsible for, but actively interfered and obstructed investigations. So why wouldn't I wonder what his real motives are, especially since he declared that he was going to 'fundamentally transform' the US into a third world country, incapable of even defending itself? Damn, Redleg... what hasn't he done?... called fire up from hell?... What he's done is far more than enough. It's time for him to be held responsible, whether it's intentional, or simply the result of his drug use.
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 13:09:07 GMT -5
People speculated similarly about Bush and the various violations of the Fourth Amendment encoded into the Patriot Act. And it didn't happen. I doubt seriously there's anything past incompetence going on here. Obama is without question the worst president of my lifetime, but I don't think he plans a despotism. Obama has spoken live several times over the last few days... spoke pretty well... was it really him?... or was it a body double?... I didn't see a teleprompter... And you must have been born after Ronald Reagan... right?... IOW, he read the words that someone else wrote for him to speak. He's done nothing positive to correct any of the crisis' he's allowed to perpetuate. And no, I wasn't. In fact, I was in the military when Reagan began trying to repair the damage Carter had done to it.
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 13:10:05 GMT -5
I agree, this is about incompetence, and Obama being unwilling, or afraid to "offend" his base by restricting flights from African countries. One of Jimmy Carter's biggest downfalls was his trying to please everybody without offending anybody... that can't be done... While being the most educated President up to that time... his heart was bigger than his head... So is a gnat's. He ran for the highest office in the land, got it, then had no idea at all what to do with it.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 13:20:42 GMT -5
One of Jimmy Carter's biggest downfalls was his trying to please everybody without offending anybody... that can't be done... While being the most educated President up to that time... his heart was bigger than his head... So is a gnat's. He ran for the highest office in the land, got it, then had no idea at all what to do with it. He "underestimated" the American people...
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 13:45:11 GMT -5
So is a gnat's. He ran for the highest office in the land, got it, then had no idea at all what to do with it. He "underestimated" the American people... No, the DNC overestimated the abilities of a peanut farmer to deal with world and country wide issues.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 14:53:37 GMT -5
He "underestimated" the American people... No, the DNC overestimated the abilities of a peanut farmer to deal with world and country wide issues. The DNC neither nominated nor elected Carter... the people did both...
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Post by redleg on Oct 17, 2014 16:22:15 GMT -5
No, the DNC overestimated the abilities of a peanut farmer to deal with world and country wide issues. The DNC neither nominated nor elected Carter... the people did both... Wrong. The DNC gave him to the people to elect. And controlled much of what the did while in office.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 17, 2014 18:32:55 GMT -5
The DNC neither nominated nor elected Carter... the people did both... Wrong. The DNC gave him to the people to elect. And controlled much of what the did while in office. Carter chose himself to run... as anyone else qualified could have done...
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 17, 2014 19:33:28 GMT -5
People speculated similarly about Bush and the various violations of the Fourth Amendment encoded into the Patriot Act. And it didn't happen. I doubt seriously there's anything past incompetence going on here. Obama is without question the worst president of my lifetime, but I don't think he plans a despotism. Obama has spoken live several times over the last few days... spoke pretty well... was it really him?... or was it a body double?... I didn't see a teleprompter... And you must have been born after Ronald Reagan... right?... He's sooooo dreamy...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 10:47:16 GMT -5
I doubt that vosa could summon up the decency and civility to not put his two-pennyworth of bile and spite every time he sees an opportunity to attack and attempt to demean baldeagle. Notice that he himself is too lethargic to post anything new or refreshing but merely returns to his same old mode d'employ of attack. Next we'll get his usual poorly assembled copy and paste crapola to attempt to support his claptrap. It's a shame that he is so obsessed with baldeagle, were he not so, he wouldn't keep embarrassing himself in his attempts at his constant put downs. OK, no cut & paste although it is a useful tool when seeking to substantiate a point being made. Let's just say your post above is a textbook example of someone suffering from Illeism. You could look it up. I don't need to look it up, I responded to your post in the third person because you spoke of baldeagle in the third person. It wasn't necessary for me to do so but it wasn't incorrect either.
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Post by vosa on Oct 19, 2014 10:30:58 GMT -5
Incorrect, maybe not.
Enlightening, definitely.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 19, 2014 18:26:11 GMT -5
Knock off the sniping and get back on topic. Thanks.
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Post by redleg on Oct 20, 2014 11:09:06 GMT -5
Wrong. The DNC gave him to the people to elect. And controlled much of what the did while in office. Carter chose himself to run... as anyone else qualified could have done... Wrong. Anyone can choose to run, but unless the parties put the resources behind them, they aren't going anywhere. Just like the Pubs have done this election cycle, and so have the Dems, they actively fight against anyone that runs against "their" candidate. They decide who will be the nominee. Dems even go so far as to find some brain dead doper to run against a candidate that threatens their power base.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 20, 2014 12:26:46 GMT -5
Carter chose himself to run... as anyone else qualified could have done... Wrong. Anyone can choose to run, but unless the parties put the resources behind them, they aren't going anywhere. Just like the Pubs have done this election cycle, and so have the Dems, they actively fight against anyone that runs against "their" candidate. They decide who will be the nominee. Dems even go so far as to find some brain dead doper to run against a candidate that threatens their power base. A lot of $$$ isn't spent... and endorsements aren't usually made by a Party organization until after the primary... at which time they are naturally going to support their Party nominee...
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