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Post by redleg on Oct 20, 2014 23:01:20 GMT -5
Wrong. Anyone can choose to run, but unless the parties put the resources behind them, they aren't going anywhere. Just like the Pubs have done this election cycle, and so have the Dems, they actively fight against anyone that runs against "their" candidate. They decide who will be the nominee. Dems even go so far as to find some brain dead doper to run against a candidate that threatens their power base. A lot of $$$ isn't spent... and endorsements aren't usually made by a Party organization until after the primary... at which time they are naturally going to support their Party nominee... Wrong. The money is spent in the primaries to ensure that the "correct" candidate goes to the general. Both parties, especially now, will attack their own people to make sure they don't beat the "correct" candidate.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 6:17:01 GMT -5
A lot of $$$ isn't spent... and endorsements aren't usually made by a Party organization until after the primary... at which time they are naturally going to support their Party nominee... Wrong. The money is spent in the primaries to ensure that the "correct" candidate goes to the general. Both parties, especially now, will attack their own people to make sure they don't beat the "correct" candidate. And how is that "correct" candidate selected?...
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 21, 2014 6:35:08 GMT -5
Wrong. The money is spent in the primaries to ensure that the "correct" candidate goes to the general. Both parties, especially now, will attack their own people to make sure they don't beat the "correct" candidate. And how is that "correct" candidate selected?... By the party. Depending on what part of American history you wish to examine, many inputs have been determinate. In latter years the 'primary' has been popular amongst some states. Hubert Humphrey and many other 'modern' candidates did not trouble themselves to engage. The party system is a construct and operates differently according to their wishes and usually accepts the various state constructs. usgovinfo.about.com/cs/politicalsystem/a/delegateprocess.htmEver watch a Libertarian convention? It's a hoot! They take this stuff seriously.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 6:53:43 GMT -5
And how is that "correct" candidate selected?... By the party. Depending on what part of American history you wish to examine, many inputs have been determinate. In latter years the 'primary' has been popular amongst some states. Hubert Humphrey and many other 'modern' candidates did not trouble themselves to engage. The party system is a construct and operates differently according to their wishes and usually accepts the various state constructs. usgovinfo.about.com/cs/politicalsystem/a/delegateprocess.htmEver watch a Libertarian convention? It's a hoot! They take this stuff seriously. No, I've never watched a Libertarian convention... but I have however participated in the Democratic convention process to it's highest levels... a process where the delegates are chosen by the people and apportioned BASED ON THE PRIMARY VOTE of the people... the Republicans here don't elect their delegates... they are appointed by the Party... so, you might be right if you are referring to the Republicans... We're a long way from "Obama and Ebola"...
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 21, 2014 7:19:43 GMT -5
By the party. Depending on what part of American history you wish to examine, many inputs have been determinate. In latter years the 'primary' has been popular amongst some states. Hubert Humphrey and many other 'modern' candidates did not trouble themselves to engage. The party system is a construct and operates differently according to their wishes and usually accepts the various state constructs. usgovinfo.about.com/cs/politicalsystem/a/delegateprocess.htmEver watch a Libertarian convention? It's a hoot! They take this stuff seriously. No, I've never watched a Libertarian convention... but I have however participated in the Democratic convention process to it's highest levels... a process where the delegates are chosen by the people and apportioned BASED ON THE PRIMARY VOTE of the people... the Republicans here don't elect their delegates... they are appointed by the Party... so, you might be right if you are referring to the Republicans... We're a long way from "Obama and Ebola"... Maybe in your state but not in Maryland
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 8:38:46 GMT -5
No, I've never watched a Libertarian convention... but I have however participated in the Democratic convention process to it's highest levels... a process where the delegates are chosen by the people and apportioned BASED ON THE PRIMARY VOTE of the people... the Republicans here don't elect their delegates... they are appointed by the Party... so, you might be right if you are referring to the Republicans... We're a long way from "Obama and Ebola"... Maybe in your state but not in Maryland I did say "here"... and I am not familiar with the Republican's delegate selection plan in Maryland... how do they do it?...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 21, 2014 9:35:42 GMT -5
Maybe in your state but not in Maryland I did say "here"... and I am not familiar with the Republican's delegate selection plan in Maryland... how do they do it?... In Maryland, I think the nomination goes to the short straw.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 9:43:44 GMT -5
I did say "here"... and I am not familiar with the Republican's delegate selection plan in Maryland... how do they do it?... In Maryland, I think the nomination goes to the short straw. That's likely the extent of your political knowledge... I took the liberty to correct your post to what I "think" you meant...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 21, 2014 9:49:35 GMT -5
In Maryland, I think the nomination goes to the short straw. That's likely the extent of your political knowledge... I took the liberty to correct your post to what I "think" you meant... It was supposed to be a joke, because running for statewide office as a Republican is a Sisyphean task. And, yes, 'gores' was a typo. LMAO
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 15:08:21 GMT -5
That's likely the extent of your political knowledge... I took the liberty to correct your post to what I "think" you meant... It was supposed to be a joke, because running for statewide office as a Republican is a Sisyphean task. And, yes, 'gores' was a typo. LMAO You forgot your ... and I'm a serious guy... And I believe the discussion was with regard to national delegates and nominees... not statewide office...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 21, 2014 15:40:18 GMT -5
It was supposed to be a joke, because running for statewide office as a Republican is a Sisyphean task. And, yes, 'gores' was a typo. LMAO You forgot your ... and I'm a serious guy... And I believe the discussion was with regard to national delegates and nominees... not statewide office... You keep trying to convince yourself that your a serious guy. Personally, I'm not buying it. Except for certain counties in Western Maryland, Southern Maryland and some parts of the Eastern Shore, running as a Republican for any office in Maryland is a Sisyphean task.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 15:48:39 GMT -5
You forgot your ... and I'm a serious guy... And I believe the discussion was with regard to national delegates and nominees... not statewide office... You keep trying to convince yourself that your a serious guy. Personally, I'm not buying it. Except for certain counties in Western Maryland, Southern Maryland and some parts of the Eastern Shore, running as a Republican for any office in Maryland is a Sisyphean task. I'm already convinced... and not trying to sell anything... and like I said, we were discussing delegates supporting Presidential candidates... but while I do own some Maryland property, local politics there is of little interest to me...
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 21, 2014 17:47:04 GMT -5
By the party. Depending on what part of American history you wish to examine, many inputs have been determinate. In latter years the 'primary' has been popular amongst some states. Hubert Humphrey and many other 'modern' candidates did not trouble themselves to engage. The party system is a construct and operates differently according to their wishes and usually accepts the various state constructs. usgovinfo.about.com/cs/politicalsystem/a/delegateprocess.htmEver watch a Libertarian convention? It's a hoot! They take this stuff seriously. No, I've never watched a Libertarian convention... but I have however participated in the Democratic convention process to it's highest levels... a process where the delegates are chosen by the people and apportioned BASED ON THE PRIMARY VOTE of the people... the Republicans here don't elect their delegates... they are appointed by the Party... so, you might be right if you are referring to the Republicans... Did you bother to read the link provided? Each state and each party pursues different constructs regarding selection.
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 21, 2014 18:09:26 GMT -5
You keep trying to convince yourself that your a serious guy. Personally, I'm not buying it. Except for certain counties in Western Maryland, Southern Maryland and some parts of the Eastern Shore, running as a Republican for any office in Maryland is a Sisyphean task. I'm already convinced... and not trying to sell anything... and like I said, we were discussing delegates supporting Presidential candidates... but while I do own some Maryland property, local politics there is of little interest to me... Being serious is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you're not. (with apologies to Margaret Thatcher)
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Post by redleg on Oct 21, 2014 18:23:42 GMT -5
Wrong. The money is spent in the primaries to ensure that the "correct" candidate goes to the general. Both parties, especially now, will attack their own people to make sure they don't beat the "correct" candidate. And how is that "correct" candidate selected?... By the incumbents, and the party 'elites'. They have the money to spread around, and the "consultants" to advise their chosen candidates. They also have the donors to dun for support of the chosen ones.
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 21, 2014 18:26:48 GMT -5
Maybe in your state but not in Maryland I did say "here"... and I am not familiar with the Republican's delegate selection plan in Maryland... how do they do it?... They say they want to run, and then get voted in or out in an election.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 22:19:47 GMT -5
No, I've never watched a Libertarian convention... but I have however participated in the Democratic convention process to it's highest levels... a process where the delegates are chosen by the people and apportioned BASED ON THE PRIMARY VOTE of the people... the Republicans here don't elect their delegates... they are appointed by the Party... so, you might be right if you are referring to the Republicans... Did you bother to read the link provided? Each state and each party pursues different constructs regarding selection. Yes, I did... wasn't much to it... and nothing I didn't already know... which is why I referred to the process "here"...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 22:21:44 GMT -5
I'm already convinced... and not trying to sell anything... and like I said, we were discussing delegates supporting Presidential candidates... but while I do own some Maryland property, local politics there is of little interest to me... Being serious is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you're not. (with apologies to Margaret Thatcher) It was you who questioned my seriousness... I never have... maybe it's you that you need to worry about...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 22:24:22 GMT -5
And how is that "correct" candidate selected?... By the incumbents, and the party 'elites'. They have the money to spread around, and the "consultants" to advise their chosen candidates. They also have the donors to dun for support of the chosen ones. You really ought to get our more... maybe participate in the "delegate selection plan" for your state in 2016... you'll be surprised and learn something new... I'll be participating in mine for the 11th time...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 21, 2014 22:26:59 GMT -5
I did say "here"... and I am not familiar with the Republican's delegate selection plan in Maryland... how do they do it?... They say they want to run, and then get voted in or out in an election. I'm sure there's more to it than that... and Redleg will disagree with both of us...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 22, 2014 0:29:07 GMT -5
Being serious is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you're not. (with apologies to Margaret Thatcher) It was you who questioned my seriousness... I never have... maybe it's you that you need to worry about... Only after you asserted your seriousness fo no reason.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 0:36:25 GMT -5
Two possible solutions:
1. Send Ebola patients to Vegas, after all, nothing ever leaves there.
2. Send Ebola to fight ISIS. Two problems solved at once.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 5:48:12 GMT -5
Two possible solutions: 1. Send Ebola patients to Vegas, after all, nothing ever leaves there. 2. Send Ebola to fight ISIS. Two problems solved at once. Or quarantine them on the border with the illegal aliens,,two problems solved for the price of one.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 6:04:55 GMT -5
It was you who questioned my seriousness... I never have... maybe it's you that you need to worry about... Only after you asserted your seriousness fo no reason.For no reason, huh?... only after I responded to your foolish post and you said: "It was supposed to be a joke, because running for statewide office as a Republican is a Sisyphean task. And, yes, 'gores' was a typo. LMAO "... and I responded: "You forgot your ... and I'm a serious guy... and I believe the discussion was with regard to national delegates and nominees... not statewide office"... Yeah... no reason... right... I guess that's what I get for taking you serious to begin with...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 6:06:54 GMT -5
Two possible solutions: 1. Send Ebola patients to Vegas, after all, nothing ever leaves there. 2. Send Ebola to fight ISIS. Two problems solved at once. Or quarantine them on the border with the illegal aliens,,two problems solved for the price of one. Sounds like Ann Coulter's "solution"...
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