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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:19:47 GMT -5
Beck is on the web if you wish to change your mind. ;D No thanks I'll leave him to aboutwell he seems to follow his gas passing with a sort of religious fever. As I have said many times... I neither watch or listen to Beck... I don't know where Rocketwolf gets his information...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:24:40 GMT -5
How do you know who these respondents were?... Do you think Pew asked, oh let's say, the Peruvians their view of America's media networks? No, but it seems you think you know who they asked... I don't...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:27:07 GMT -5
Frankly even though I do not listen to any of the above mentioned pundits, given the democrats lying non stop for the last 7 years I would say that this thread is also a lie, more likely the exact opposite is true and Rush is the source of all truth in the universe. Why just 7 years?... could it be because of that Black Democrat in the White House?...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:36:12 GMT -5
"Thirty-nine percent of respondents to the Pew poll say they don’t trust Limbaugh, a bombastic conservative radio voice. Fox News follows closely with 37 percent saying they don’t trust the network. Glenn Beck ranks third, with 24 percent of respondents saying they distrust Beck.
As for the rest:
• 45 percent of the claims made on NBC and MSNBC rate Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire;
• 38 percent of the claims made on CBS rate Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire;
• 36 percent of the claims made on ABC rate Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire;
• 22 percent of the claims made on CNN rate Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire.
For the record, 82 percent of the claims we've checked from Limbaugh have been rated Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire.www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2014/oct/21/pew-study-finds-rush-limbaugh-least-trustworthy-ne/ "politifact" has been shown to lie, misrepresent, and misconstrue in order to further Socialist, even Communist agendas. So, why would anyone be surprised that they "find" conservatives untrustworthy? Politics... I've seen Republicans swear by the Pew poll... and I've criticized it myself... because it always seemed to lean Right... not knowing what the questions were here, who can really say... I've seen many similar polls with regard to Limbaugh, Fox, Hannity, and Beck...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:41:44 GMT -5
A through debunking of "politifact" can be found here: LINKKeep in mind that this is a Pew poll... not a Politifact poll... it was only reported by Politifact... www.journalism.org/interactives/media-polarization/table/overall/www.journalism.org/2014/10/21/about-the-study-2/ABOUT PEW RESEARCH Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world. It conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis and other empirical social science research. Pew Research does not take policy positions.
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 22, 2014 23:50:30 GMT -5
No thanks I'll leave him to aboutwell he seems to follow his gas passing with a sort of religious fever. As I have said many times... I neither watch or listen to Beck... I don't know where Rocketwolf gets his information... My bad you know so much about Fox I thought you were a daily all day listener.
Now I wonder where you get your info about it?
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 6:53:45 GMT -5
As I have said many times... I neither watch or listen to Beck... I don't know where Rocketwolf gets his information... My bad you know so much about Fox I thought you were a daily all day listener.
Now I wonder where you get your info about it?
Is Beck on Fox?... I do play Fox and CNN as a backgrounds a good bit of the time... and right now CNN has been temporarily taken off of Dish and replaced with MSNBC... which I can't watch... sometime I just have to turn the volume all the way down... I learned about these people and organizations like I learned about rattlesnakes... and treat 'em about the same...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 23, 2014 8:54:44 GMT -5
A through debunking of "politifact" can be found here: LINKKeep in mind that this is a Pew poll... not a Politifact poll... it was only reported by Politifact... www.journalism.org/interactives/media-polarization/table/overall/www.journalism.org/2014/10/21/about-the-study-2/ABOUT PEW RESEARCH Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world. It conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis and other empirical social science research. Pew Research does not take policy positions.Yes, but everything they wrote about their 'network scorecards' and who's pants were on fire came from Politifact. Which is legendary for being full of crap.
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Post by breakingbad on Oct 23, 2014 8:59:10 GMT -5
If he didn't, his ratings would plummet. And I'd imagine that there is just enough accuracy so as not to be out-and-out lying. He plays to a core of listeners and he does it very effectively. People don't turn into Rush Limbaugh for news; they do so more for reaffirmation of their world views. You gotta hand it to the guy... a college dropout who has made some $$$... It's a great formula : riling up the simple of mind. Continue your indignation with him. It helps his ratings.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 9:07:04 GMT -5
You gotta hand it to the guy... a college dropout who has made some $$$... It's a great formula : riling up the simple of mind. Continue your indignation with him. It helps his ratings. He does tend to rile the "simple of mind"... I've likely turned many more off to him, than I've turned on to him... I even turned the guy off to him that turned me on to him...
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Post by vosa on Oct 23, 2014 11:31:31 GMT -5
Do you think Pew asked, oh let's say, the Peruvians their view of America's media networks? No, but it seems you think you know who they asked... I don't... Once again you dummy up when it suits your agenda. Pew asked Americans. Which ones doesn't matter as government thinks all American, yes, even you, are too stupid to run their own lives.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 12:14:17 GMT -5
No, but it seems you think you know who they asked... I don't... Once again you dummy up when it suits your agenda. Pew asked Americans. Which ones doesn't matter as government thinks all American, yes, even you, are too stupid to run their own lives. I agree... but your comment " these respondents"... all 2,901of them... seems to indicate that Pew asked a certain demographic other than... just the Americans... to which you pointed here... And it wasn't the government who chose these respondents...
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Post by vosa on Oct 23, 2014 13:29:42 GMT -5
Once again you dummy up when it suits your agenda. Pew asked Americans. Which ones doesn't matter as government thinks all American, yes, even you, are too stupid to run their own lives. I agree... but your comment " these respondents"... all 2,901of them... seems to indicate that Pew asked a certain demographic other than... just the Americans... to which you pointed here... And it wasn't the government who chose these respondents... Again, the demographic used or not used is irrelevant. The government thinks we're all too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time. And I never said, nor did I seem to indicate, that the government chose the respondents.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 14:19:58 GMT -5
I agree... but your comment " these respondents"... all 2,901of them... seems to indicate that Pew asked a certain demographic other than... just the Americans... to which you pointed here... And it wasn't the government who chose these respondents... Again, the demographic used or not used is irrelevant. The government thinks we're all too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time. And I never said, nor did I seem to indicate, that the government chose the respondents. It wasn't me saying anything about what the government thought... (still ain't)... it was you... and I'm not so sure I can agree with your comment on government... because we really can't figure out just who the government is... And if you asked only the individuals in say, the Black community... do you think it would have made a difference... than had it been asked of individuals say, in the White country club community?...
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Post by rocketwolf on Oct 24, 2014 10:57:36 GMT -5
Frankly even though I do not listen to any of the above mentioned pundits, given the democrats lying non stop for the last 7 years I would say that this thread is also a lie, more likely the exact opposite is true and Rush is the source of all truth in the universe. Why just 7 years?... could it be because of that Black Democrat in the White House?... To really play the race card well next time post it this way BLACK DEMOCRAT
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 24, 2014 11:14:11 GMT -5
Why just 7 years?... could it be because of that Black Democrat in the White House?... To really play the race card well next time post it this way BLACK DEMOCRAT
Race is all they have, and it has worn thin. I could just as easily have said for the last 100 years, since Wilson we have been heading down a bad road.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 24, 2014 13:31:19 GMT -5
Why just 7 years?... could it be because of that Black Democrat in the White House?... To really play the race card well next time post it this way BLACK DEMOCRAT
Then maybe you'd like to explain why the Democrats have only been "lying non stop for the last 7 years"... Hawgtp didn't answer... what were they doing before then?... telling the truth?... and there was a White Democrat in the White House in the 90's... I'm bettin' Ranger John doesn't like this...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 24, 2014 13:33:38 GMT -5
To really play the race card well next time post it this way BLACK DEMOCRAT
Race is all they have, and it has worn thin. I could just as easily have said for the last 100 years, since Wilson we have been heading down a bad road. But why didn't you?... there has to be some reason you didn't... I'm just trying to guess what it was... I'm bettin' Ranger John doesn't like this either...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 24, 2014 13:49:45 GMT -5
Race is all they have, and it has worn thin. I could just as easily have said for the last 100 years, since Wilson we have been heading down a bad road. But why didn't you?... there has to be some reason you didn't... I'm just trying to guess what it was... I'm bettin' Ranger John doesn't like this either... Me? Nah. I don't care what color the idiot Democrat in the White House is. His color only seems to matter to you.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 24, 2014 14:11:15 GMT -5
But why didn't you?... there has to be some reason you didn't... I'm just trying to guess what it was... I'm bettin' Ranger John doesn't like this either... Me? Nah. I don't care what color the idiot Democrat in the White House is. His color only seems to matter to you. No, it doesn't matter to me... but it does affect me... and you... I knew that would be the case in 2006... and I was right on...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 24, 2014 14:14:43 GMT -5
Me? Nah. I don't care what color the idiot Democrat in the White House is. His color only seems to matter to you. No, it doesn't matter to me... but it does affect me... and you... I knew that would be the case in 2006... and I was right on... How does his race affect me? His idiotic policies affect me. His amateurish foreign policy affects me. His defective health care program will affect me at some point. But his race? I don't see how that impacts me at all.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 24, 2014 14:23:23 GMT -5
No, it doesn't matter to me... but it does affect me... and you... I knew that would be the case in 2006... and I was right on... How does his race affect me? His idiotic policies affect me. His amateurish foreign policy affects me. His defective health care program will affect me at some point. But his race? I don't see how that impacts me at all. Huis race is only one part of why he is hated in Washington... (there are other reasons)... and that hate translated into his inability to do things he'd like to do to help the Country... but can't... His "defective healthcare program" is going to be very good to me next year...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 24, 2014 14:36:26 GMT -5
How does his race affect me? His idiotic policies affect me. His amateurish foreign policy affects me. His defective health care program will affect me at some point. But his race? I don't see how that impacts me at all. Huis race is only one part of why he is hated in Washington... (there are other reasons)... and that hate translated into his inability to do things he'd like to do to help the Country... but can't... His "defective healthcare program" is going to be very good to me next year... I am sure there are people who hate him because of his race. It has NOTHING to do with why he's hated in Washington... where he's hated in Washington, it's because he goes out of his way to make enemies and burn bridges. Even Democrats complain about his refusal to even try to work with Congress. He's deceitful. He doesn't keep his word. He's aloof. He's detached. He's a divider - constantly talking in terms of 'us versus them.' And the outcome of his polices have ranged from 'failure' to 'disaster.' I remember asking for an example of a 'success' from this administration several months ago. I believe your response was that he'd cancelled the F-22... as though we even knew that was a good thing. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons to think badly of this man that have nothing to do with his race.
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 24, 2014 15:09:29 GMT -5
Huis race is only one part of why he is hated in Washington... (there are other reasons)... and that hate translated into his inability to do things he'd like to do to help the Country... but can't... His "defective healthcare program" is going to be very good to me next year... I am sure there are people who hate him because of his race. It has NOTHING to do with why he's hated in Washington... where he's hated in Washington, it's because he goes out of his way to make enemies and burn bridges. Even Democrats complain about his refusal to even try to work with Congress. He's deceitful. He doesn't keep his word. He's aloof. He's detached. He's a divider - constantly talking in terms of 'us versus them.' And the outcome of his polices have ranged from 'failure' to 'disaster.' I remember asking for an example of a 'success' from this administration several months ago. I believe your response was that he'd cancelled the F-22... as though we even knew that was a good thing. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons to think badly of this man that have nothing to do with his race. That cancelling of the plane was $50 on a LONG list of accomplishments... there are many accomplishments that can be attributed to his administration... you can even select them by state... and no, I am NOT going to provide you with the link... The underlined portion above seems to be a contradiction... in fact, it IS a contradiction...
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 24, 2014 15:29:05 GMT -5
I am sure there are people who hate him because of his race. It has NOTHING to do with why he's hated in Washington... where he's hated in Washington, it's because he goes out of his way to make enemies and burn bridges. Even Democrats complain about his refusal to even try to work with Congress. He's deceitful. He doesn't keep his word. He's aloof. He's detached. He's a divider - constantly talking in terms of 'us versus them.' And the outcome of his polices have ranged from 'failure' to 'disaster.' I remember asking for an example of a 'success' from this administration several months ago. I believe your response was that he'd cancelled the F-22... as though we even knew that was a good thing. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons to think badly of this man that have nothing to do with his race. That cancelling of the plane was $50 on a LONG list of accomplishments... there are many accomplishments that can be attributed to his administration... you can even select them by state... and no, I am NOT going to provide you with the link... The underlined portion above seems to be a contradiction... in fact, it IS a contradiction... Of course it's not a contradiction. A contradiction implies the statements are mutually exclusive. I'm sure there are people in this country that hate him for his race. The people who hate him in Washington hate him for professional reasons - for example the reasons that I listed. I'm sure it was a long list, aboutwell. The fact that cancelling the most advanced fighter currently in service in the US military was even listed as an accomplishment makes that list laughable. It MIGHT turn out to be a good thing, in the long run. However, whether or not it is an accomplishment or yet another failure is unknowable right now. I'm guessing winning the Nobel Peace Prize is also somewhere on that list. But making fools of the Nobel Peace Prize committee is hardly an accomplishment.
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