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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 26, 2014 19:06:16 GMT -5
You don't think that "ghetto rioters" is a racial slur? Ghetto rioters is a racial slur? Wow. And 'whitey' is a term of endearment? And goy, gringo, hillbilly etc.? Minorities are allowed the luxury (or intellectual laziness) to use slurs, as in Jesse Jackson's "Hymie Town" comment. The dominant groups must use 'code words' in order to provide precise definition, and avoid the social and legal consequences. But I doubt if anyone is really fooled either way! LOL what I said is no where near a racial slur, its fact
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 19:10:15 GMT -5
Well it isn't a racial slur like the champs "Ghetto rioters" is. If you think "ghetto" is racial, then you must think Jews are a race... Wow! That's a stretch... what the he'll have Jews got to do with this thread?
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 26, 2014 19:12:47 GMT -5
same as when the Germans bombed Perl harbor
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 19:13:28 GMT -5
Ghetto rioters is a racial slur? Wow. And 'whitey' is a term of endearment? And goy, gringo, hillbilly etc.? Minorities are allowed the luxury (or intellectual laziness) to use slurs, as in Jesse Jackson's "Hymie Town" comment. The dominant groups must use 'code words' in order to provide precise definition, and avoid the social and legal consequences. But I doubt if anyone is really fooled either way! LOL what I said is no where near a racial slur, its fact You used the term as a pergorative, in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period.
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Post by aponderer on Nov 26, 2014 19:27:41 GMT -5
If you think "ghetto" is racial, then you must think Jews are a race... Wow! That's a stretch... what the he'll have Jews got to do with this thread? Not a stretch if one knows history and who were the inhabitants of the original ghettos: Jews. Have your never heard of the Warsaw ghetto (which, of course, was not the first ghetto)? Nowadays ghettos are not inhabited by just Jews, though. Do you think a term like the "Southall Punjabis" is a racial slur?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 19:51:21 GMT -5
Wow! That's a stretch... what the he'll have Jews got to do with this thread? Not a stretch if one knows history and who were the inhabitants of the original ghettos: Jews. Have your never heard of the Warsaw ghetto (which, of course, was not the first ghetto)? Nowadays ghettos are not inhabited by just Jews, though. Do you think a term like the "Southall Punjabis" is a racial slur? Thanks for the history lesson. I have visited Kraków in Poland, and walked through what was then the Jewish Ghetto, we passed by the buildings where Oskar Schindler had his factory. I've been to both the Auschwitz and Birkenau camps, but I digress. Again, what on earth do Jews have to do with this thread?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 20:27:03 GMT -5
The thugs in Ferguson should commend themselves for a job well done. How many people are out of jobs after destroying business? One proprietor raised over $158K to help restore her bakery after it was damaged by rioters. She should send them a bill.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 26, 2014 20:29:24 GMT -5
The thugs in Ferguson should commend themselves for a job well done. How many people are out of jobs after destroying business? One proprietor raised over $158K to help restore her bakery after it was damaged by rioters. She should send them a bill.
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You mean like Al Sharpton? The man who owes us all about $4 million? Who has never been anything but a parasite on this country? And who lives to surround himself with other parasites?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 20:44:58 GMT -5
The thugs in Ferguson should commend themselves for a job well done. How many people are out of jobs after destroying business? One proprietor raised over $158K to help restore her bakery after it was damaged by rioters. She should send them a bill.
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Those criminals did not build that business.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 26, 2014 21:10:38 GMT -5
LOL what I said is no where near a racial slur, its fact You used the term as a pergorative, in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period. don't think so, period
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Post by aponderer on Nov 27, 2014 6:48:13 GMT -5
LOL what I said is no where near a racial slur, its fact You used the term as a pergorative, in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period. I see you're adding some spin to your original claim. To refresh your memory, here is your original post on the term: "Ghetto rioters"?... Nah, this is not about racism. You've gone from "racism" to "racial slur" to "pergorative [sic], in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period." I guess I have to spell it out for you. The term RC used was ghetto rioters. Because the word rioters is not racist, then the the only thing that would make ghetto rioters racist, would be the word ghetto. And getto, historically, referred to a section of city or town that was inhabited by Jews. Therefore, if one claims the term ghetto rioters is a racial slur, then the inhabitants of the ghetto must be a race. That "if, then" structure is called a conditional proposition (or "conditional," or "implication"). You might want to look it up... If some Punjabis in Southall rioted, and someone call them ghetto rioters, I suppose you would think that was a racial slur, too... ...especial if you thought it was a pejorative...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 7:23:19 GMT -5
You used the term as a pergorative, in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period. don't think so, period Too late mate, I perioded before you did, so there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 7:38:06 GMT -5
You used the term as a pergorative, in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period. I see you're adding some spin to your original claim. To refresh your memory, here is your original post on the term: "Ghetto rioters"?... Nah, this is not about racism. You've gone from "racism" to "racial slur" to "pergorative [sic], in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period." I guess I have to spell it out for you. The term RC used was ghetto rioters. Because the word rioters is not racist, then the the only thing that would make ghetto rioters racist, would be the word ghetto. And getto, historically, referred to a section of city or town that was inhabited by Jews. Therefore, if one claims the term ghetto rioters is a racial slur, then the inhabitants of the ghetto must be a race. That "if, then" structure is called a conditional proposition (or "conditional," or "implication"). You might want to look it up...If some Punjabis in Southall rioted, and someone call them ghetto rioters, I suppose you would think that was a racial slur, too... ...especial if you thought it was a pejorative... Did you ever work in a circus? I've got to hand it to you, that's some great contortionism going on there dude. Again you waffle on about Jews, it was you that applied spin (using your own term) and slid them into this thread, they are, and we're non-sequitur to this thread, as are the "Southall Punjabis" whoever they are that you are now trying to squeeze into the debate. Who next, Genghis Khan maybe, perhaps a herd of wilderbeast? It must be nice to be a rightie on a 95% rightie board, you get to make up all the rules and conditions for your debates, but you must feel very naked and exposed in the real world if you come out with utter claptrap like that. Oh, and you might want to look up 'false syllogisms'. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 27, 2014 8:19:45 GMT -5
I see you're adding some spin to your original claim. To refresh your memory, here is your original post on the term: You've gone from "racism" to "racial slur" to "pergorative [sic], in my opinion that made it a racial slur, period." I guess I have to spell it out for you. The term RC used was ghetto rioters. Because the word rioters is not racist, then the the only thing that would make ghetto rioters racist, would be the word ghetto. And getto, historically, referred to a section of city or town that was inhabited by Jews. Therefore, if one claims the term ghetto rioters is a racial slur, then the inhabitants of the ghetto must be a race. That "if, then" structure is called a conditional proposition (or "conditional," or "implication"). You might want to look it up... If some Punjabis in Southall rioted, and someone call them ghetto rioters, I suppose you would think that was a racial slur, too... ...especial if you thought it was a pejorative... Did you ever work in a circus? I've got to hand it to you, that's some great contortionism going on there dude. Again you waffle on about Jews, it was you that applied spin (using your own term) and slid them into this thread, they are, and we're non-sequitur to this thread, as are the "Southall Punjabis" whoever they are that you are now trying to squeeze into the debate. Who next, Genghis Khan maybe, perhaps a herd of wilderbeast? It must be nice to be a rightie on a 95% rightie board, you get to make up all the rules and conditions for your debates, but you must feel very naked and exposed in the real world if you come out with utter claptrap like that. Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for the greeting. A very pleasant holiday we have over here.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 27, 2014 9:05:23 GMT -5
Well it isn't a racial slur like the champs "Ghetto rioters" is. I don't regard this as a slur. The origin of the term ghetto should be well understood by anyone with even a modicum of historical knowledge. But in the modern era it means any economically depressed area. The poor are not a race.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:30:10 GMT -5
Well it isn't a racial slur like the champs "Ghetto rioters" is. I don't regard this as a slur. The origin of the term ghetto should be well understood by anyone with even a modicum of historical knowledge. But in the modern era it means any economically depressed area. The poor are not a race. It's subjective isn't it, you don't regard it as a slur, the way he used it, I do. Anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge? Nowt to do with it fella, but in that department I'll put mine up against yours any day. Anyone with a modicum of the English language knows that it is a constantly evolving language, thusly today when one mentions the word "ghetto" one does not necessarily mean Jewish, indeed, were I to specifically mean Jews I would say a "Jewish ghetto". But let's bring it all back to the champ, are you telling me that he was referring to Jewish rioters doing the looting and burning in Ferguson? If so, I'll have to stand corrected. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 27, 2014 9:33:34 GMT -5
Well it isn't a racial slur like the champs "Ghetto rioters" is. I don't regard this as a slur. The origin of the term ghetto should be well understood by anyone with even a modicum of historical knowledge. But in the modern era it means any economically depressed area. The poor are not a race. exactly right
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 27, 2014 9:50:55 GMT -5
But let's bring it all back to the champ, are you telling me that he was referring to Jewish rioters doing the looting and burning in Ferguson? If so, I'll have to stand corrected. Happy Thanksgiving. I don't know what he was referring to. I know that when *I* use the the term ghetto, I mean "economically depressed neighborhood". Sure, the term once had a racially (or, really, religiously) charged meaning. But, at least to me, it no longer does. That's all I meant. If the people who live in ghettos do not wish to be characterized as violent and looters they should stop being violent and looters. I won't hold my breath. It's got nothing to do with race. Too many people think that one cannot comment on the behavior of any group because of the possibility that group will contain more of this race or that religion than the general population, and that therefore such comments will be taken as racism or sectism. That's the result of oversensitivity.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 27, 2014 12:25:41 GMT -5
I hope the protest will be over soon and all those who are protesting go home and tell/teach their kids NOT to do the things Michael Brown did...
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 27, 2014 12:51:33 GMT -5
It all comes down to, if a cop tells you to jump all you say is.. how high?
let the courts sort it out
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 12:59:25 GMT -5
There is nothing to sort out.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 27, 2014 13:12:37 GMT -5
There is nothing to sort out. I mean in other cases
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 13:59:29 GMT -5
It all comes down to, if a cop tells you to jump all you say is.. how high? let the courts sort it out So in effect, you are advocating a police state? Can't say as I would want that myself.
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Post by vosa on Nov 27, 2014 14:06:42 GMT -5
OK, how about public violence, tumult, or disorder committed by people from a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure.
That PC enough for you?
Well it isn't a racial slur like the champs "Ghetto rioters" is. Actually it is a literal translation of “ghetto” and “riot”. Changing the name or definition of something so as to make it appear that it is something it is not, or is not what it is, is what PC is all about. You can read about it here. Or listen to it here.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 27, 2014 14:08:53 GMT -5
It all comes down to, if a cop tells you to jump all you say is.. how high? let the courts sort it out So in effect, you are advocating a police state? Can't say as I would want that myself. No, but you don't argue with a cop, just do what they say and the courts will work it out
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