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Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 10:45:14 GMT -5
I don't regard this as a slur. The origin of the term ghetto should be well understood by anyone with even a modicum of historical knowledge. But in the modern era it means any economically depressed area. The poor are not a race. It's subjective isn't it, you don't regard it as a slur, the way he used it, I do. Anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge? Nowt to do with it fella, but in that department I'll put mine up against yours any day. Anyone with a modicum of the English language knows that it is a constantly evolving language, thusly today when one mentions the word "ghetto" one does not necessarily mean Jewish, indeed, were I to specifically mean Jews I would say a "Jewish ghetto". But let's bring it all back to the champ, are you telling me that he was referring to Jewish rioters doing the looting and burning in Ferguson? If so, I'll have to stand corrected. Happy Thanksgiving. IOW, whenever you have lost an argument, the language "evolves" to make the winning argument "racist", regardless of what was said. I've heard and read of Leftist commentators all over the airwaves and internet claiming that just about anything said at all that is not in absolute, abject worship of the rioters is "racist". One idiot even claimed that Wilson's use of the word "demon" was racist. It's the Left's way of shutting down argument and discussion when they've lost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 11:52:31 GMT -5
It's subjective isn't it, you don't regard it as a slur, the way he used it, I do. Anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge? Nowt to do with it fella, but in that department I'll put mine up against yours any day. Anyone with a modicum of the English language knows that it is a constantly evolving language, thusly today when one mentions the word "ghetto" one does not necessarily mean Jewish, indeed, were I to specifically mean Jews I would say a "Jewish ghetto". But let's bring it all back to the champ, are you telling me that he was referring to Jewish rioters doing the looting and burning in Ferguson? If so, I'll have to stand corrected. Happy Thanksgiving. IOW, whenever you have lost an argument, the language "evolves" to make the winning argument "racist", regardless of what was said. I've heard and read of Leftist commentators all over the airwaves and internet claiming that just about anything said at all that is not in absolute, abject worship of the rioters is "racist". One idiot even claimed that Wilson's use of the word "demon" was racist. It's the Left's way of shutting down argument and discussion when they've lost. IOW, you have nothing but belligerence. Back track a bit and read the thread before spouting on just one post. That's all you ever do, just dump on someone's post to further spread your hate of anything left of you.... Yeah, we all get it, you hate fecking lefties...
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Post by redleg on Nov 28, 2014 13:26:44 GMT -5
IOW, whenever you have lost an argument, the language "evolves" to make the winning argument "racist", regardless of what was said. I've heard and read of Leftist commentators all over the airwaves and internet claiming that just about anything said at all that is not in absolute, abject worship of the rioters is "racist". One idiot even claimed that Wilson's use of the word "demon" was racist. It's the Left's way of shutting down argument and discussion when they've lost. IOW, you have nothing but belligerence. Back track a bit and read the thread before spouting on just one post. That's all you ever do, just dump on someone's post to further spread your hate of anything left of you.... Yeah, we all get it, you hate fecking lefties... I did read them. You claim that the "evolution of English" gives you the authority, essentially, to declare anything you don't like as "racist", regardless of the circumstances. "Ghetto rioters" is a descriptive term which has nothing at all to do with race. Had the rioters been white, you would have had nothing at all to say about the term. It was simply an attempt to shut down discussion by using 'racism' accusations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 13:40:51 GMT -5
IOW, you have nothing but belligerence. Back track a bit and read the thread before spouting on just one post. That's all you ever do, just dump on someone's post to further spread your hate of anything left of you.... Yeah, we all get it, you hate fecking lefties... I did read them. You claim that the "evolution of English" gives you the authority, essentially, to declare anything you don't like as "racist", regardless of the circumstances. "Ghetto rioters" is a descriptive term which has nothing at all to do with race. Had the rioters been white, you would have had nothing at all to say about the term. It was simply an attempt to shut down discussion by using 'racism' accusations. As usual, IMO, further absolute bullshyte from you. You just make it up as you go along. If you really, truly believe in your bullshyte, you are, IMO a truly sad individual. You need to get a life outside of your narrow minded gaol, you really do.
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Post by vosa on Nov 28, 2014 15:18:22 GMT -5
In our constantly evolving English language "gaol" has evolved into "jail".
Do try to keep up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 16:06:49 GMT -5
When one has a better grasp of the English language than most, one uses all the words available to him. Those that wish to be lazy in their use of English can, by and large, converse quite adequately with their vastly reduced lexicon, but they really have no place to attempt to ridicule their English language superiors.
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Post by aponderer on Nov 28, 2014 17:16:24 GMT -5
When one has a better grasp of the English language than most, one uses all the words available to him. Those that wish to be lazy in their use of English can, by and large, converse quite adequately with their vastly reduced lexicon, but they really have no place to attempt to ridicule their English language superiors. Such as "pergorative?"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 17:20:39 GMT -5
When one has a better grasp of the English language than most, one uses all the words available to him. Those that wish to be lazy in their use of English can, by and large, converse quite adequately with their vastly reduced lexicon, but they really have no place to attempt to ridicule their English language superiors. Such as "pergorative?" "Perjorative" should be in everybody's lexicon, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 17:23:48 GMT -5
Meanwhile Ferguson burns.
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Post by aponderer on Nov 28, 2014 17:26:07 GMT -5
Such as "pergorative?" "Perjorative" should be in everybody's lexicon, surely? We use pejorative over here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 17:35:09 GMT -5
"Perjorative" should be in everybody's lexicon, surely? We use pejorative over here. Correct! I must be having a bad day, one typo and one misspell... using a tablet doesn't help either.
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Post by aponderer on Nov 28, 2014 17:53:44 GMT -5
We use pejorative over here. Correct! I must be having a bad day, one typo and one misspell... using a tablet doesn't help either. Ahah! The tablet made you do it, just as the fork made a big eater obese...
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 28, 2014 17:58:44 GMT -5
IOW, you have nothing but belligerence. Back track a bit and read the thread before spouting on just one post. That's all you ever do, just dump on someone's post to further spread your hate of anything left of you.... Yeah, we all get it, you hate fecking lefties... I did read them. You claim that the "evolution of English" gives you the authority, essentially, to declare anything you don't like as "racist", regardless of the circumstances. "Ghetto rioters" is a descriptive term which has nothing at all to do with race. Had the rioters been white, you would have had nothing at all to say about the term. It was simply an attempt to shut down discussion by using 'racism' accusations. He does this quite a bit
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 18:08:39 GMT -5
I did read them. You claim that the "evolution of English" gives you the authority, essentially, to declare anything you don't like as "racist", regardless of the circumstances. "Ghetto rioters" is a descriptive term which has nothing at all to do with race. Had the rioters been white, you would have had nothing at all to say about the term. It was simply an attempt to shut down discussion by using 'racism' accusations. He does this quite a bit He does, does he? Ok dude, put your money where your mouth is, link to another post/thread where I have accused anyone of racism. Or, of course, you can remove that false accusation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 18:14:06 GMT -5
Correct! I must be having a bad day, one typo and one misspell... using a tablet doesn't help either. Ahah! The tablet made you do it, just as the fork made a big eater obese... Nope, hands up, it's a fair cop guv... but tablets aren't as easy to drive as laptops or desktops, I take it you haven't used one.
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Post by aponderer on Nov 28, 2014 19:09:58 GMT -5
Ahah! The tablet made you do it, just as the fork made a big eater obese... Nope, hands up, it's a fair cop guv... but tablets aren't as easy to drive as laptops or desktops, I take it you haven't used one. Whether or not I've used one depends on the definition of a "tablet," I suppose. I have a Surface Pro 3 and the onscreen keyboard is pretty good IMHO. So would you say I've used one?
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 29, 2014 6:13:23 GMT -5
"When one has a better grasp of the English language than most, one uses all the words available to him. Those that wish to be lazy in their use of English can, by and large, converse quite adequately with their vastly reduced lexicon, but they really have no place to attempt to ridicule their English language superiors."
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Post by vosa on Nov 29, 2014 14:22:42 GMT -5
When one has a better grasp of the English language than most, one uses all the words available to him. Those that wish to be lazy in their use of English can, by and large, converse quite adequately with their vastly reduced lexicon, but they really have no place to attempt to ridicule their English language superiors. What "English" are we talking about here, American English, British English, Canadian English, Australian English or New Zealand English?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 29, 2014 14:48:51 GMT -5
That's enough discussion of whose English is superior. Let's get the thread back on topic. Thanks.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 29, 2014 18:39:54 GMT -5
Back on topic
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Post by rentedmule on Dec 5, 2014 8:11:44 GMT -5
There does seem to be a whole lotta dissatisfaction with the police industry. Only solution I can see is for the affected society to change it's behavior or for the government to step in and regulate. Every other problem is solved by government intervention, why not this one?
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Post by aboutwell on Dec 5, 2014 9:05:29 GMT -5
What the feds gonna do?... establish a quota system and say that arrests can be no more than 13% Blacks... 17% Hispanics... 5% Asian... 1% Native American... and all the rest Whites?...
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Post by vosa on Dec 6, 2014 13:03:46 GMT -5
The answer to this problem is really very simple - obey all lawful orders given to you by the police.
There are three reasons why I believe people don't do this:
1. They think their going to get street cred for taking on the police. In many cases it turns out no cred, just dead.
2. They think being arrested by the police is the be all and end all of our justice system, i.e., that they will not have a chance to prove their innocence. There are so many layers in our justice system that in most cases only the guilty get convicted. (Members of this Hissy Fit Throwing Society please note I said "in most cases".)
3. They are know their guilty of some crime, they have priors and succumb to the flight or fight syndrome. In either case most end up losing.
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Post by aboutwell on Dec 6, 2014 13:22:43 GMT -5
Many Black individuals, for whatever the reason... I think it's cultural... just seem to be much more and quicker to "mouth off" at authority... unless it's their Mama... who will slap the crap out of them... and then there are those Mamas who are "mouthing off" as well...
Say what you want... aggressive behavior in much more preventable in the Black community than it is in the White (or even Hispanic) community... I have commented on that here for years... and haven't changed my mind... or evolved...
(I mentioned the three communities because Hispanics make up 17% of our population... Whites 65%... Blacks 12%)
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Post by vosa on Dec 6, 2014 13:38:19 GMT -5
Many Black individuals, for whatever the reason... I think it's cultural... just seem to be much more and quicker to "mouth off" at authority... unless it's their Mama... who will slap the crap out of them... and then there are those Mamas who are "mouthing off" as well... Say what you want... aggressive behavior in much more preventable in the Black community than it is in the White (or even Hispanic) community... I have commented on that here for years... and haven't changed my mind... or evolved... (I mentioned the three communities because Hispanics make up 17% of our population... Whites 65%... Blacks 12%) Yes, because if you mouth off or act aggressively to the wrong person in the Black community where there are quite a few "wrong persons", you'll get your azz killed. And that will prevent you from engaging in aggressive behavior ever again.
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