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Post by aboutwell on Mar 28, 2015 20:14:21 GMT -5
Simple... I didn't... when I want something removed... I simply call my computer man... just like she obviously did... and I'm glad she did... now all you can do is wonder what she might have deleted... rather then building a mountain out of a molehill out of that which she didn't... likely the best thing she could have possibly done... to hell with you Clinton haters... if you don't like her... vote for someone else... Now, I'm going over in the cow field... the cow shiit smells better over there than the bull shiit does here... Well, that's just it. Wondering what she disposed of is going to cause a lot of people to believe she was up to her eyeballs in criminality. If she did wipe this stuff, there's no way to exonerate herself. Of course, that IS the reason she wiped this data - because not being able to exonerate yourself is better than your enemies having proof of your criminality. That's the ONLY reason to do what she did. A lot of people choose to believe she's "up to her eyeballs in criminality" already... no more likely will... in fact, she may benefit from some sympathy like Bill did with the Monica Lewinski accusations... and she's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you... Jesus Christ could speak in her behalf and you'd deny it... not being able to exonerate oneself when there is no need to do so... is much better than having to defend oneself against meaningless and empty accusations that can't be proven either... simply because they aren't so... Smart gal there...
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Post by redleg on Mar 28, 2015 21:08:16 GMT -5
If she has truly wiped the server clean, rather than just deleting the emails, that would end her chances at the presidency in a sane country. Deleting emails doesn't really get rid of them. IT people can get on those hard drives and retrieve the stff that hasn't already been written over. But if she has truly wiped the drives clean, that takes a bit of effort. And I'd say that world constitute a deliberate destruction of evidence. Evidence?... my ass... only to one of those "sycophants"... to whom I have already pointed... If nothing else, it's obstruction of justice, since that server had already been subpoenaed by Congress. She deliberately impedes an investigation, and you think it's nothing. That's the second felony she has apparently committed.
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Post by redleg on Mar 28, 2015 21:10:06 GMT -5
"Last October, nearly two years after she left office, the State Department sent her a letter requesting all government records, like emails, she may have possessed.
In response, she provided the State Department in December with about 30,000 printed emails that she said were government records. She has said that an additional 30,000 emails were personal.
Mrs. Clinton cannot make the emails public without the State Department’s approval. Mr. Kennedy said that if the State Department determined that any of the documents were classified, “additional steps will be required to safeguard and protect the information.” Mrs. Clinton has said she had no classified information in her emails." [/u] Clearly a witch hunt by the Republicans... Ms Clinton should tell them to just kiss her ass... [/quote] Is that before, or after she is fitted for an orange jumpsuit and special bracelets? She is a felon, first for destroying evidence in an ongoing investigation, second, for unauthorized use of classified information, and third, for having that classified information at her home.
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Post by redleg on Mar 28, 2015 21:12:33 GMT -5
Absolutely... some people still like their privacy... (and the server was set up for Bill, not Hill... she just kept it)... especially in this era of these damn rogue Republicans looking for something to make something out of that really isn't there... and that's basically ALL they want to do to the Clintons... because they hate 'em... they represent a threat to the republicans agenda... I don't own my own server... but I delete a lot of emails simply because I don't want to keep 'em... not because I have anything to hide... and my private world is as important to me as her private world is to her... She has no "right to privacy" as Sec State. Every email she sent or received in her official capacity belongs to us, the American people. If she was also sending private email on that server, tough.. She should have known better. She should be immediately arrested, charged with espionage, obstruction of justice, and failure to secure classified information. For starters.
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Post by Ranger John on Mar 28, 2015 21:13:48 GMT -5
Well, that's just it. Wondering what she disposed of is going to cause a lot of people to believe she was up to her eyeballs in criminality. If she did wipe this stuff, there's no way to exonerate herself. Of course, that IS the reason she wiped this data - because not being able to exonerate yourself is better than your enemies having proof of your criminality. That's the ONLY reason to do what she did. A lot of people choose to believe she's "up to her eyeballs in criminality" already... no more likely will... in fact, she may benefit from some sympathy like Bill did with the Monica Lewinski accusations... and she's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you... Jesus Christ could speak in her behalf and you'd deny it... not being able to exonerate oneself when there is no need to do so... is much better than having to defend oneself against meaningless and empty accusations that can't be proven either... simply because they aren't so... Smart gal there... Jesus Christ would never have anything to do with her. And even if He did, He wouldn't speak on her behalf, because He values His credibility. It's true enough that a lot of people believe she's up to her eyeballs in criminality. And for good reason. But this whole episode will just serve to remind everyone how slimy she is.
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Post by redleg on Mar 28, 2015 21:16:22 GMT -5
Well, that's just it. Wondering what she disposed of is going to cause a lot of people to believe she was up to her eyeballs in criminality. If she did wipe this stuff, there's no way to exonerate herself. Of course, that IS the reason she wiped this data - because not being able to exonerate yourself is better than your enemies having proof of your criminality. That's the ONLY reason to do what she did. A lot of people choose to believe she's "up to her eyeballs in criminality" already... no more likely will... in fact, she may benefit from some sympathy like Bill did with the Monica Lewinski accusations... and she's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you... Jesus Christ could speak in her behalf and you'd deny it... not being able to exonerate oneself when there is no need to do so... is much better than having to defend oneself against meaningless and empty accusations that can't be proven either... simply because they aren't so... Smart gal there... No, she's so corrupt that she makes Don Corleone look like a choir boy. She has bought off, threatened, extorted, or simply had killed,, everyone that could possibly blow the whistle on her. And now, she's going to go to the LR media to 'defend" the fact that she was selling classified information to enemy countries for "donations" to her private slush fund.
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 28, 2015 21:25:19 GMT -5
A lot of people choose to believe she's "up to her eyeballs in criminality" already... no more likely will... in fact, she may benefit from some sympathy like Bill did with the Monica Lewinski accusations... and she's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you... Jesus Christ could speak in her behalf and you'd deny it... not being able to exonerate oneself when there is no need to do so... is much better than having to defend oneself against meaningless and empty accusations that can't be proven either... simply because they aren't so... Smart gal there... Jesus Christ would never have anything to do with her. And even if He did, He wouldn't speak on her behalf, because He values His credibility. It's true enough that a lot of people believe she's up to her eyeballs in criminality. And for good reason. But this whole episode will just serve to remind everyone how slimy she is. Like I said: "She's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you"... Nuff said...
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Post by Ranger John on Mar 28, 2015 21:51:07 GMT -5
Jesus Christ would never have anything to do with her. And even if He did, He wouldn't speak on her behalf, because He values His credibility. It's true enough that a lot of people believe she's up to her eyeballs in criminality. And for good reason. But this whole episode will just serve to remind everyone how slimy she is. Like I said: "She's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you"... Nuff said... Sure. She's depending on people who aren't paying attention to what she's been up to, and people who just don't care that she might be committing all sorts of crimes. And that pretty much describes the core of the Democratic party base.
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Post by redleg on Mar 28, 2015 21:55:43 GMT -5
Jesus Christ would never have anything to do with her. And even if He did, He wouldn't speak on her behalf, because He values His credibility. It's true enough that a lot of people believe she's up to her eyeballs in criminality. And for good reason. But this whole episode will just serve to remind everyone how slimy she is. Like I said: "She's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you"... Nuff said... Or anyone else, except those with money, wanting to buy more influence.
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 28, 2015 22:00:01 GMT -5
Like I said: "She's not worried about having to exonerate herself to people like you"... Nuff said... Sure. She's depending on people who aren't paying attention to what she's been up to, and people who just don't care that she might be committing all sorts of crimes. And that pretty much describes the core of the Democratic party base. No... she's depending on people like me who have been on the ground and actually known here since you were still in diapers... people like you who have come along and got all your fanatical information from right-wing radio and places like Fox News...
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Post by redleg on Mar 28, 2015 22:11:35 GMT -5
Sure. She's depending on people who aren't paying attention to what she's been up to, and people who just don't care that she might be committing all sorts of crimes. And that pretty much describes the core of the Democratic party base. No... she's depending on people like me who have been on the ground and actually known here since you were still in diapers... people like you who have come along and got all your fanatical information from right-wing radio and places like Fox News... IOW, you believe the liars regardless, because you have invested far too much in them to actually admit the truth.
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Post by rentedmule on Mar 29, 2015 6:16:51 GMT -5
Do you call your government breakfast companions in DC by that name? Do you "delete" all the information about your real estate investments when the IRS inquires? Or does documentation and compliance only apply to others? I don't have breakfast with a-holes... my property is none of the IRS's business... (but they've never inquired)... and No... You call government investigators a-holes and now state that the IRS has no "business" inquiring into your real estate investments? And you "represent" others? With an appropriate license I'm certain!
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Post by rocketwolf on Mar 29, 2015 7:14:17 GMT -5
I don't have breakfast with a-holes... my property is none of the IRS's business... (but they've never inquired)... and No... You call government investigators a-holes and now state that the IRS has no "business" inquiring into your real estate investments? And you "represent" others? With an appropriate license I'm certain! Now can you see why I put ab on ignore, he is far too willing to say anything to follow the Demo line.
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Post by rentedmule on Mar 29, 2015 10:06:10 GMT -5
You call government investigators a-holes and now state that the IRS has no "business" inquiring into your real estate investments? And you "represent" others? With an appropriate license I'm certain! Now can you see why I put ab on ignore, he is far too willing to say anything to follow the Demo line. I would think that calling government employees a-holes and denying the government tax collectors access to your property records is quite far from the "party line". He seems more of a genuine radical to me.
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 29, 2015 11:30:26 GMT -5
No... she's depending on people like me who have been on the ground and actually known here since you were still in diapers... people like you who have come along and got all your fanatical information from right-wing radio and places like Fox News... IOW, you believe the liars regardless, because you have invested far too much in them to actually admit the truth. No... because I know who the real "liars" are... and I also know the Clintons very well...
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 29, 2015 11:34:14 GMT -5
I don't have breakfast with a-holes... my property is none of the IRS's business... (but they've never inquired)... and No... (1)You call government investigators a-holes and now (2)state that the IRS has no "business" inquiring into your real estate investments? And (3)you "represent" others? (4)With an appropriate license I'm certain! Let me be sure to get this right now... Yes... Yes... Yes... and Yes...
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 29, 2015 11:37:03 GMT -5
You call government investigators a-holes and now state that the IRS has no "business" inquiring into your real estate investments? And you "represent" others? With an appropriate license I'm certain! Now can you see why I put ab on ignore, he is far too willing to say anything to follow the Demo line. Actually, Rocketwolf has me on "Ignore" because he can't handle the truth... Somebody be sure to quote me so he'll know the answers to the 4 comments/questions...
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 29, 2015 11:38:58 GMT -5
Now can you see why I put ab on ignore, he is far too willing to say anything to follow the Demo line. I would think that calling government employees a-holes and denying the government tax collectors access to your property records is quite far from the "party line". He seems more of a genuine radical to me. The President has been called worse... and I pay ALL my due taxes... so there's no need for them to call... but if they do, fine... I have my shiit in order...
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Post by breakingbad on Mar 29, 2015 11:42:14 GMT -5
If there was no evidence of criminality, why wipe the drive? Why keep anything that's of no value to you?... just toss it... Why? Because in her case, it is a felony to do what she did. In your case it's not. I'll help you out. Close your eyes and imagine that Ronald Reagan did this. Now can you see how wrong it is?
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Post by aboutwell on Mar 29, 2015 11:54:50 GMT -5
Why keep anything that's of no value to you?... just toss it... Why? Because in her case, it is a felony to do what she did. In your case it's not. I'll help you out. Close your eyes and imagine that Ronald Reagan did this. Now can you see how wrong it is? Hell, why go all the way back to Reagan?... close your eyes and see how many Dick Cheney deleted... government emails too... how many was it now?... a couple of million?... When Hillary is hit with a real felony... let me know... otherwise call Dick... not only is he good at deleting emails... he has some good advice for you... ----------------------------- The White House possesses no archived e-mail messages for many of its component offices, including the Executive Office of the President and the Office of the Vice President, for 473 days between 2003 and 2005.....
The missing Cheney emails fit a pattern that suggests intentional rather than accidental destruction. They all occur on days on which, considering contemporaneous press reports, the Vice President or his staff members were in the news and would likely have been communicating on the subjects relating to the press coverage. Now that may be felonious... Next...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 12:04:45 GMT -5
There's no reason to wipe the server unless you're hiding something. And I suspect we now know WHY she had her own email server. Whatever she didn't want people to know... I don't guess we'll know, now. Voters should consider this action in 2016. When you dispose of an old computer, what do you do with its hard drive, leave it in there?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 29, 2015 12:09:58 GMT -5
When you dispose of an old computer, what do you do with its hard drive, leave it in there? I wipe it, of course. However, I am not a high government official whose actions, thinking, and decision-making is suitable for analysis by (at the least) historians. Hillary was such an official.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 12:11:54 GMT -5
You call government investigators a-holes and now state that the IRS has no "business" inquiring into your real estate investments? And you "represent" others? With an appropriate license I'm certain! Now can you see why I put ab on ignore, he is far too willing to say anything to follow the Demo line. Have you put red leg on ignore for the same reason following the Pubby line?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 12:17:10 GMT -5
When you dispose of an old computer, what do you do with its hard drive, leave it in there? I wipe it, of course. However, I am not a high government official whose actions, thinking, and decision-making is suitable for analysis by (at the least) historians. Hillary was such an official. Why do you wipe it if you have nothing to hide? Seriously, there's a shedload of double standarding going on in this thread, I expect it from most of the righties on here, I didn't expect it from you.
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Post by stevez51 on Mar 29, 2015 12:26:57 GMT -5
I wipe it, of course. However, I am not a high government official whose actions, thinking, and decision-making is suitable for analysis by (at the least) historians. Hillary was such an official. Why do you wipe it if you have nothing to hide? Seriously, there's a shedload of double standarding going on in this thread, I expect it from most of the righties on here, I didn't expect it from you. Do you have personal and financial records on you computer.. ? You don't want that info going out. Clinton was a govt official and anything that was govt involved is owned by the govt. She can say she turned over all the info but there is no record of it after it is wiped.
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