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Post by Olive on May 26, 2015 18:48:53 GMT -5
That show should have never been. Those children have been terribly exploited.
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Post by aboutwell on May 26, 2015 19:28:53 GMT -5
Duggar admitted fondling more than one of his sisters...
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Post by Ranger John on May 26, 2015 19:39:20 GMT -5
Duggar admitted fondling more than one of his sisters... Really? Where was that reported?
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Post by aboutwell on May 26, 2015 21:15:19 GMT -5
Don't have time to look it up right now... maybe later... but Duggar molested 4 of his younger sisters... I believe there were 5 younger but he didn't molest the oldest of the five...
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Post by Ranger John on May 26, 2015 21:33:04 GMT -5
Don't have time to look it up right now... maybe later... but Duggar molested 4 of his younger sisters... I believe there were 5 younger but he didn't molest the oldest of the five... Well, see that's the thing, I googled "Josh Duggar incest" and was unable to find any news story supporting that assertion. There were links to his father condemning incest, and stories about an incest related joke he once told, and there was a brief mention in the NY Daily News that there was an incest rumor at TMZ - which is not the best source, as they thrive on sensationalism. If it's true, I'll have to re-think my position in Duggar, but I want some actual evidence.
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Post by aboutwell on May 26, 2015 22:07:01 GMT -5
We now know, thanks to a FOIA request filed by InTouch, that the worst of the rumors were true. In a statement to People last night, 27-year-old Josh Duggar admitted that when he was a teenager, he molested several underage girls—including some of his sisters.
The police report suggests that four of Josh’s sisters were victims. In 2002, there were five sisters living in the Duggar house: Jana, then 12; Jill, 11; Jessa, 10; Jinger, 9; and Joy-Anna, 5.
Alice added, “God’s honest truth that the molestation happened. It happened to four of his 5 sisters. The oldest daughter was not touched. The second daughter is the one who caught him doing this. There was no rape involved, but molested. I could go into detail, but I won’t. Of course, you can find nothing about the charges. The Duggar’s want to keep this hid. Wouldn’t you?”
InTouch published a redacted version of the Springdale police report detailing Josh’s sexual misconduct on May 21, 2015. Josh admitted to the abuse hours later.defamer.gawker.com/the-web-has-known-about-josh-duggar-for-years-when-did-1706258269
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Post by Ranger John on May 26, 2015 22:26:59 GMT -5
We now know, thanks to a FOIA request filed by InTouch, that the worst of the rumors were true. In a statement to People last night, 27-year-old Josh Duggar admitted that when he was a teenager, he molested several underage girls—including some of his sisters.
The police report suggests that four of Josh’s sisters were victims. In 2002, there were five sisters living in the Duggar house: Jana, then 12; Jill, 11; Jessa, 10; Jinger, 9; and Joy-Anna, 5.
Alice added, “God’s honest truth that the molestation happened. It happened to four of his 5 sisters. The oldest daughter was not touched. The second daughter is the one who caught him doing this. There was no rape involved, but molested. I could go into detail, but I won’t. Of course, you can find nothing about the charges. The Duggar’s want to keep this hid. Wouldn’t you?”
InTouch published a redacted version of the Springdale police report detailing Josh’s sexual misconduct on May 21, 2015. Josh admitted to the abuse hours later.defamer.gawker.com/the-web-has-known-about-josh-duggar-for-years-when-did-1706258269 If true, ick. Is this available somehere other than Defamer.com? Their links to Intouch.com aren't exactly what defamer.com days they are.
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Post by aboutwell on May 27, 2015 8:00:48 GMT -5
I'm sure there is, but I haven't looked it up... it's not a big deal for me... (even if he is a Republican)... I'm just passing on a little information I picked up... as you may know, I've never been a fan of the FRC...
I've never watched the "19 kids" show...
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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2015 16:15:34 GMT -5
I'm sure there is, but I haven't looked it up... it's not a big deal for me... (even if he is a Republican)... I'm just passing on a little information I picked up... as you may know, I've never been a fan of the FRC... I've never watched the "19 kids" show... Snopes doesn't consider the incest accusation credible. Basically, the quote that keeps popping up for Josh, where he admits he hurt his family, doesn't really add up to what's been claimed. Whether it means he actually hurt his sisters, or simply hurt his family by being a serial molester isn't clear. I have also never watched their show. I don't especially care about them either.
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Post by aboutwell on May 28, 2015 16:39:10 GMT -5
I'm sure there is, but I haven't looked it up... it's not a big deal for me... (even if he is a Republican)... I'm just passing on a little information I picked up... as you may know, I've never been a fan of the FRC... I've never watched the "19 kids" show... Snopes doesn't consider the incest accusation credible. Basically, the quote that keeps popping up for Josh, where he admits he hurt his family, doesn't really add up to what's been claimed. Whether it means he actually hurt his sisters, or simply hurt his family by being a serial molester isn't clear. I have also never watched their show. I don't especially care about them either. 'Cept for the fact that his sister is the one who ratted on him... and he admitted it to his parents... and incest doesn't have to be sexual "intercourse"... and it was never claimed that he had "sexual intercourse" with anyone... only molesting/fondling...
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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2015 16:49:12 GMT -5
Snopes doesn't consider the incest accusation credible. Basically, the quote that keeps popping up for Josh, where he admits he hurt his family, doesn't really add up to what's been claimed. Whether it means he actually hurt his sisters, or simply hurt his family by being a serial molester isn't clear. I have also never watched their show. I don't especially care about them either. 'Cept for the fact that his sister is the one who ratted on him... and he admitted it to his parents... and incest doesn't have to be sexusl "intercourse"... and it was never claimed that he had "sexual intersourse" with anyone... only molesting/fondling... Also apparently not true. According to reports, Duggar confessed. Hopefully EY won't have to delete this post, but here's the account as it appears at a reputable news outlet (rather than TMZ or some other rumor mill: CNN
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Post by aboutwell on May 28, 2015 20:03:48 GMT -5
'Cept for the fact that his sister is the one who ratted on him... and he admitted it to his parents... and incest doesn't have to be sexusl "intercourse"... and it was never claimed that he had "sexual intersourse" with anyone... only molesting/fondling... Also apparently not true. According to reports, Duggar confessed. Hopefully EY won't have to delete this post, but here's the account as it appears at a reputable news outlet (rather than TMZ or some other rumor mill: CNNHe did "confess" it... after his sister ratted on him... and the three other sisters also said they were touched as well... Sure he was sorry... but like most, more sorry that he was caught than for what he did... I doubt seriously he was sorry as he molested four of his sisters multiple times... till one of them told on him... then he was sorry... But hey... that was a long time ago... I hope he has put it behind him... I don't hold such things against people for the rest of their lives... I believe humans do stupid things... and wish they could take it back, but can't... and would never repeat as adults... even if he is a Republican... And my info didn't come from TMZ...
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Post by Ranger John on May 28, 2015 20:12:28 GMT -5
Also apparently not true. According to reports, Duggar confessed. Hopefully EY won't have to delete this post, but here's the account as it appears at a reputable news outlet (rather than TMZ or some other rumor mill: CNNHe did "confess" it... after his sister ratted on him... and the three other sisters also said they were touched as well... Sure he was sorry... but like most, more sorry that he was caught than for what he did... I doubt seriously he was sorry as he molested four of his sisters multiple times... till one of them told on him... then he was sorry... But hey... that was a long time ago... I hope he has put it behind him... I don't hold such things against people for the rest of their lives... I believe humans do stupid things... and wish they could take it back, but can't... and would never repeat as adults... even if he is a Republican... And my info didn't come from TMZ... Ok, so where did it come from? Frankly, if snopes doesn't find the accusation credible, you're going to have to do better than your typical "because I said so." Honestly, if you're going to accuse someone of incest, you need to be accountable for where your information comes from.
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Post by Ravenchamp on May 28, 2015 21:36:31 GMT -5
Good. More brainless uneducated tv crap. to much of this garbage is on
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Post by aboutwell on May 28, 2015 23:41:16 GMT -5
He did "confess" it... after his sister ratted on him... and the three other sisters also said they were touched as well... Sure he was sorry... but like most, more sorry that he was caught than for what he did... I doubt seriously he was sorry as he molested four of his sisters multiple times... till one of them told on him... then he was sorry... But hey... that was a long time ago... I hope he has put it behind him... I don't hold such things against people for the rest of their lives... I believe humans do stupid things... and wish they could take it back, but can't... and would never repeat as adults... even if he is a Republican... And my info didn't come from TMZ... Ok, so where did it come from? Frankly, if snopes doesn't find the accusation credible, you're going to have to do better than your typical "because I said so." Honestly, if you're going to accuse someone of incest, you need to be accountable for where your information comes from. I'm just passing along information... I didn't accuse him of anything... his own sister did... and his dad caught him... THEN he fessed up... if I can find it, so can you... BTW... Snopes says it's TRUE...
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Post by Ranger John on May 29, 2015 5:39:49 GMT -5
Ok, so where did it come from? Frankly, if snopes doesn't find the accusation credible, you're going to have to do better than your typical "because I said so." Honestly, if you're going to accuse someone of incest, you need to be accountable for where your information comes from. I'm just passing along information... I didn't accuse him of anything... his own sister did... and his dad caught him... THEN he fessed up... if I can find it, so can you... BTW... Snopes says it's TRUE... Ok, so you can't back it up. I'll go with snopes rather than your rumor mill sites.
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Post by aboutwell on May 29, 2015 8:05:30 GMT -5
I'm just passing along information... I didn't accuse him of anything... his own sister did... and his dad caught him... THEN he fessed up... if I can find it, so can you... BTW... Snopes says it's TRUE... Ok, so you can't back it up. I'll go with snopes rather than your rumor mill sites. I don't intend to back it up... I didn't claim it... and like I said, Snopes says it's true... (your own link)...
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Post by Ranger John on May 29, 2015 8:23:57 GMT -5
Ok, so you can't back it up. I'll go with snopes rather than your rumor mill sites. I don't intend to back it up... I didn't claim it... and like I said, Snopes says it's true... (your own link)... So you think 'not credible' means 'true'?
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Post by aboutwell on Jun 3, 2015 17:49:20 GMT -5
Typical Fox News... Be prepared for lots of liberal blaming and self-pity from Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar. The Duggars covered up their son’s crimes by not going to the police, but to a state trooper family friend who was later sentenced to fifty-six years in prison on child pornography charges. Instead of holding the Duggars accountable for why they didn’t stop their son from molesting children, Fox News is going to portray the Duggars as heroes who have been persecuted by liberals and the media.www.politicususa.com/2015/06/03/despicable-fox-news-duggars-primetime-special-cover-child-molestation.html
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Post by aboutwell on Jun 3, 2015 17:54:25 GMT -5
I don't intend to back it up... I didn't claim it... and like I said, Snopes says it's true... (your own link)... So you think 'not credible' means 'true'? ".....we have not seen any credible reports indicating that Josh Duggar’s sexual misconduct actually involved incestuous activity (i.e, sexual intercourse) with any of his sisters."NOBODY has claimed Duggar engaged in "sexual intercourse" with his sisters... but it doesn't require sexual intercourse to be guilty of molestation and incest...
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Post by Ranger John on Jun 3, 2015 18:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cowboyz on Jun 4, 2015 12:39:42 GMT -5
Why would the parents EVER agree to doing a television show about their family knowing this sick piece of stuff molested his sisters (and others). Not only is he exposed (which is a good thing) but his victims are too.... so sad.
I've never seen the show, nor do I intend to.
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Post by davinci on Jun 4, 2015 13:25:46 GMT -5
I think they should put all these reality show people on an island and let them fight it out survivor style. Kardashians, Duggars, Duck Dudes, Real Housewives...now there's a show I'd watch!
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Post by Cowboyz on Jun 4, 2015 13:33:53 GMT -5
I think they should put all these reality show people on an island and let them fight it out survivor style. Kardashians, Duggars, Duck Dudes, Real Housewives...now there's a show I'd watch! On an island with no money, no electricity and very basic supplies they need to survive but they have to fend for themselves.
My money would be on the Duck Dynasty guys so that's probably not fair.
Lets add the Jersey Shore crew and the crew from Honey Boo Boo.
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Post by davinci on Jun 4, 2015 13:39:40 GMT -5
The Duck Dudes would be too busy courting the Duggar girls.
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