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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:41:41 GMT -5
I may need some serious education and tutoring, but where does the Constitution instruct us on the process and methodology of casting votes? Who said it did?...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 12:46:18 GMT -5
I must remind folks that the "disenfranchisement" of Blacks using voter qualifications was a Democrat ploy for many decades. The South is quite different now and is the destination for the urban Black migration. Leaving the Northern urban enclaves for those nasty red states. Go figure? Yes... and now those same folks have changed their affiliation and now affiliate with the Republican Party and speak with support at forums such as White Citizens Councils... like Trent Lott did... and hate Barack Obama because he's Black... "Black bastard," they call him...
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Post by rentedmule on Aug 4, 2015 17:50:00 GMT -5
"Assuming you are referring to a voter ID, such a test would be unconstitutional..."
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Post by redleg on Aug 4, 2015 18:42:03 GMT -5
No, we aren't. You did mention that requiring someone to have an ID to register to vote would be "unConstitutional", yet you can't show how that is unConstitutional, but the other instances aren't. The argument that having to prove who you are to vote is somehow "unConstitutional" is strictly a Democrat demand to allow illegals, felons, and mulitple votes, because that's how they "win" elections. For the same reason, Democrats insist that there is no voter fraud, and shut down any and all investigations that would show how much there is. No, I didn't say that... I said: (and I edited it... it should have been unconstitutional)... "Assuming you are referring to a voter ID, such a test would be unconstitutional..."But you, being the Constitutional scholar that you are, should know that it can be shown that such a test (or poll tax) is unconstitutional... Really? Please show the exact Article and paragraph. And that would make every Federal firearm law unConstitutional.
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Post by redleg on Aug 4, 2015 18:44:09 GMT -5
We'll not talking about beer either but it doesn't seem right that it requires less identification to vote than to buy beer. No, we're not... but as I pointed out to Redleg... I said such a test... that HE mentioned... would be unconstitutional... and it would... So, voting is sacrosanct, because it's a Constitutional right, but owning a firearm is not? How is having a test to vote, or even having an ID, a problem, but having to submit to a background check not?
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Post by redleg on Aug 4, 2015 18:46:49 GMT -5
I must remind folks that the "disenfranchisement" of Blacks using voter qualifications was a Democrat ploy for many decades. The South is quite different now and is the destination for the urban Black migration. Leaving the Northern urban enclaves for those nasty red states. Go figure? Yes... and now those same folks have changed their affiliation and now affiliate with the Republican Party and speak with support at forums such as White Citizens Councils... like Trent Lott did... and hate Barack Obama because he's Black... "Black bastard," they call him... And Democrats not only speak, but dump billions of our dollars into such bastions of murder, genocide, and racism as the CBC, Planned Parenthood, La Raza, and the Dem party. Which is still the Party of the KKK, which means they still support lynchings and segregation, as long as they can blame it on Pubs. By the way, how many, by name, changed from Dem to Pub in the heyday of the lynchings and cross burnings?
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 20:08:06 GMT -5
"Assuming you are referring to a voter ID, such a test would be unconstitutional..." That is what I said...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 4, 2015 20:08:46 GMT -5
Yes... and now those same folks have changed their affiliation and now affiliate with the Republican Party and speak with support at forums such as White Citizens Councils... like Trent Lott did... and hate Barack Obama because he's Black... "Black bastard," they call him... And Democrats not only speak, but dump billions of our dollars into such bastions of murder, genocide, and racism as the CBC, Planned Parenthood, La Raza, and the Dem party. Which is still the Party of the KKK, which means they still support lynchings and segregation, as long as they can blame it on Pubs. By the way, how many, by name, changed from Dem to Pub in the heyday of the lynchings and cross burnings? No way of knowing how many changed...
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 7:44:52 GMT -5
And Democrats not only speak, but dump billions of our dollars into such bastions of murder, genocide, and racism as the CBC, Planned Parenthood, La Raza, and the Dem party. Which is still the Party of the KKK, which means they still support lynchings and segregation, as long as they can blame it on Pubs. By the way, how many, by name, changed from Dem to Pub in the heyday of the lynchings and cross burnings? No way of knowing how many changed... Yet, you keep insisting that all the KKK members of the Dems jumped to the Pubs, and that's why the Pubs are now the racists. I guess the propaganda worked really good on you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 8:24:28 GMT -5
Sure, as far as you've been told. Democrats also vote for Democrats, and the Pubs are looking to put a stop to that, too. AND CONVERSLY Repubs vote for Repubs, and the Demos are looking to put a stop to that, too Maryland is a classic case of Demos gerrymandering Repubs out of office. I was annoyed at the number of people I knew who inadvertently voted for the "redistricting" because they didn't take the time to study and understand the questions on the ballot that was mailed to them in advance. The questions are intentionally misleading, IMHO and that is why it is important to research ahead of time. I am typically choosing NO all over the place while bleary eyed voters vote YES. (Roll-eye emoticon)
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 10:08:08 GMT -5
No way of knowing how many changed... Yet, you keep insisting that all the KKK members of the Dems jumped to the Pubs, and that's why the Pubs are now the racists. I guess the propaganda worked really good on you. No... nowhere did I say "all"... in fact the comment to which you responded, I said there was no way of knowing just how many changed their affiliation... you seem to think that everyone back then who were for segregation, Jim Crow and in the KKK were Democrats though... which is not true either... you ever hear of Sam Bowers?... or Byron De La Beckwith?... and many others?...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 10:10:52 GMT -5
AND CONVERSLY Repubs vote for Repubs, and the Demos are looking to put a stop to that, too Maryland is a classic case of Demos gerrymandering Repubs out of office. I was annoyed at the number of people I knew who inadvertently voted for the "redistricting" because they didn't take the time to study and understand the questions on the ballot that was mailed to them in advance. The questions are intentionally misleading, IMHO and that is why it is important to research ahead of time. I am typically choosing NO all over the place while bleary eyed voters vote YES. (Roll-eye emoticon) I have always said that if a voter doesn't know the candidate, or the issue, before the campaign starts, they sure aren't going to hear the truth during the campaign...
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Post by aponderer on Aug 5, 2015 12:53:42 GMT -5
I was annoyed at the number of people I knew who inadvertently voted for the "redistricting" because they didn't take the time to study and understand the questions on the ballot that was mailed to them in advance. The questions are intentionally misleading, IMHO and that is why it is important to research ahead of time. I am typically choosing NO all over the place while bleary eyed voters vote YES. (Roll-eye emoticon) I have always said that if a voter doesn't know the candidate, or the issue, before the campaign starts, they sure aren't going to hear the truth during the campaign... And that voter might not know the issue before the campaigning starts, either. Unfortunately a voter doesn't know what "the issue" is, but makes up ones mind before actually understanding "the issue." For example, PA's Gov. Wolf (D) wants a "severance tax" placed on the natural gas coming out of recently developed natural gas wells (i.e., stick it to those natural gas developers because PA is the only state that doesn't have a "severance tax). I'll wager that most of the public who support the "severance tax" have no idea that the public will be paying the tax if the public uses natural gas.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 13:05:25 GMT -5
I have always said that if a voter doesn't know the candidate, or the issue, before the campaign starts, they sure aren't going to hear the truth during the campaign... And that voter might not know the issue before the campaigning starts, either. Unfortunately a voter doesn't know what "the issue" is, but makes up ones mind before actually understanding "the issue." For example, PA's Gov. Wolf (D) wants a "severance tax" placed on the natural gas coming out of recently developed natural gas wells (i.e., stick it to those natural gas developers because PA is the only state that doesn't have a "severance tax). I'll wager that most of the public who support the "severance tax" have no idea that the public will be paying the tax if the public uses natural gas. True.. which is why when an issue is thrown out there, one has to begin their own research prior to those who want to either support it or take issue with it come out...
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 19:21:18 GMT -5
Yet, you keep insisting that all the KKK members of the Dems jumped to the Pubs, and that's why the Pubs are now the racists. I guess the propaganda worked really good on you. No... nowhere did I say "all"... in fact the comment to which you responded, I said there was no way of knowing just how many changed their affiliation... you seem to think that everyone back then who wer for segregation, Jim Crow and in the KKK were Democrats though... which is not true either... you ever hear of Sam Bowers?... or Byron De La Beckwith?... and many others?... Neither of which rose to enough notoriety to be remembered. Bull Connors, Richard "KKK" Byrd, ect were Democrats. So, you have "no idea" how many changed, but you are positive that it was enough to make the Pubs into the racists. Got it.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 19:33:37 GMT -5
No... nowhere did I say "all"... in fact the comment to which you responded, I said there was no way of knowing just how many changed their affiliation... you seem to think that everyone back then who were for segregation, Jim Crow and in the KKK were Democrats though... which is not true either... you ever hear of Sam Bowers?... or Byron De La Beckwith?... and many others?... Neither of which rose to enough notoriety to be remembered. Bull Connors, Richard "KKK" Byrd, ect were Democrats. So, you have "no idea" how many changed, but you are positive that it was enough to make the Pubs into the racists. Got it. Now that is funny... since you don't know them, you should Google them both... BTW... who is "Bull Connors?"... and "Richard "KKK" Byrd?"...
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Post by redleg on Aug 5, 2015 21:28:33 GMT -5
Neither of which rose to enough notoriety to be remembered. Bull Connors, Richard "KKK" Byrd, ect were Democrats. So, you have "no idea" how many changed, but you are positive that it was enough to make the Pubs into the racists. Got it. Now that is funny... since you don't know them, you should Google them both... BTW... who is "Bull Connors?"... and "Richard "KKK" Byrd?"... You mean you, the fount of all wisdom, don't remember the man that turned the water hoses and sicced the dogs on the blacks protesting for equal rights? Or the Dem Senator that most of WV is named for?
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 5, 2015 22:12:18 GMT -5
Now that is funny... since you don't know them, you should Google them both... BTW... who is "Bull Connors?"... and "Richard "KKK" Byrd?"... You mean you, the fount of all wisdom, don't remember the man that turned the water hoses and sicced the dogs on the blacks protesting for equal rights? Or the Dem Senator that most of WV is named for? I know both of them.... but it seems you don't... you didn't name either... And are you sure it isn't "Old Crow" instead of "Jim Crow?"...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 6, 2015 13:34:09 GMT -5
You mean you, the fount of all wisdom, don't remember the man that turned the water hoses and sicced the dogs on the blacks protesting for equal rights? Or the Dem Senator that most of WV is named for? Evidently you do not know Bull Connor - no "S" on the end - or ROBERT Byrd, either. At least, I assume that's who you mean. It's usually who you tedious arch-righties bring up whenever you need to find a racist in the Democratic party to cover up the frequent evidence of racism in your own GOP. Hell, if it weren't for racists the TEA Party would probably be half as large!
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Post by redleg on Aug 7, 2015 8:27:57 GMT -5
You mean you, the fount of all wisdom, don't remember the man that turned the water hoses and sicced the dogs on the blacks protesting for equal rights? Or the Dem Senator that most of WV is named for? Evidently you do not know Bull Connor - no "S" on the end - or ROBERT Byrd, either. At least, I assume that's who you mean. It's usually who you tedious arch-righties bring up whenever you need to find a racist in the Democratic party to cover up the frequent evidence of racism in your own GOP. Hell, if it weren't for racists the TEA Party would probably be half as large! The "racists" at Tea Party rallies are almost always discovered to be SEIU plants, put there specifically to be filmed as racists. That's so the Party of the KKK can claim the Tea Party is so racist. Are there racists in the Tea Party? Of course. But the Tea Party isn't built and sustained on racism, like the Democrat Party is.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 7, 2015 9:05:49 GMT -5
Evidently you do not know Bull Connor - no "S" on the end - or ROBERT Byrd, either. At least, I assume that's who you mean. It's usually who you tedious arch-righties bring up whenever you need to find a racist in the Democratic party to cover up the frequent evidence of racism in your own GOP. Hell, if it weren't for racists the TEA Party would probably be half as large! The "racists" at Tea Party rallies are almost always discovered to be SEIU plants, put there specifically to be filmed as racists. That's so the Party of the KKK can claim the Tea Party is so racist. Are there racists in the Tea Party? Of course. But the Tea Party isn't built and sustained on racism, like the Democrat Party is. It's kinda creepy how often liberals do that stuff. It's like when nooses and swasitkas show up on a college campus. Invariably, it turns out to be some leftist. And it gets excused because there's a 'larger truth' about American racism even though this particular case isn't racist. The other variation is the false rape accusation that seems so popular these days. The simple truth though is such incidents ARE bigoted. When you project hate on other people, that's YOUR hate on display.
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Post by redleg on Aug 7, 2015 9:08:50 GMT -5
The "racists" at Tea Party rallies are almost always discovered to be SEIU plants, put there specifically to be filmed as racists. That's so the Party of the KKK can claim the Tea Party is so racist. Are there racists in the Tea Party? Of course. But the Tea Party isn't built and sustained on racism, like the Democrat Party is. It's kinda creepy how often liberals do that stuff. It's like when nooses and swasitkas show up on a college campus. Invariably, it turns out to be some leftist. And it gets excused because there's a 'larger truth' about American racism even though this particular case isn't racist. The other variation is the false rape accusation that seems so popular these days. The simple truth though is such incidents ARE bigoted. When you project hate on other people, that's YOUR hate on display. Oh, nonsense. Everyone knows Liberals can't be bigoted, they are the ones babysitting anyone they see as inferior. Which is any and all minorities.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 7, 2015 9:09:13 GMT -5
The "racists" at Tea Party rallies are almost always discovered to be SEIU plants, put there specifically to be filmed as racists. That's so the Party of the KKK can claim the Tea Party is so racist. I have trouble believing it. But no trouble believing YOU believe it. And even if one stipulates that Byrd was a KKK member, that doesn't make the entire Democratic party the "party of the KKK". Get off that soapbox. Or perhaps you'll acknowledge that, thanks to Larry Craig, the Republicans are the party of homosexuality? Are there racists in the Tea Party? Of course. But the Tea Party isn't built and sustained on racism, like the Democrat Party is. I never made the claim that it was. Only that it was heavily infiltrated.
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 7, 2015 9:10:45 GMT -5
It's kinda creepy how often liberals do that stuff. It's like when nooses and swasitkas show up on a college campus. Invariably, it turns out to be some leftist. And it gets excused because there's a 'larger truth' about American racism even though this particular case isn't racist. The other variation is the false rape accusation that seems so popular these days. The simple truth though is such incidents ARE bigoted. When you project hate on other people, that's YOUR hate on display. Oh, nonsense. Everyone knows Liberals can't be bigoted, they are the ones babysitting anyone they see as inferior. Which is any and all minorities. LOL. Well, Evil Yoda does, anyway.
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Post by redleg on Aug 7, 2015 9:13:23 GMT -5
The "racists" at Tea Party rallies are almost always discovered to be SEIU plants, put there specifically to be filmed as racists. That's so the Party of the KKK can claim the Tea Party is so racist. I have trouble believing it. But no trouble believing YOU believe it. And even if one stipulates that Byrd was a KKK member, that doesn't make the entire Democratic party the "party of the KKK". Get off that soapbox. Or perhaps you'll acknowledge that, thanks to Larry Craig, the Republicans are the party of homosexuality? Are there racists in the Tea Party? Of course. But the Tea Party isn't built and sustained on racism, like the Democrat Party is. I never made the claim that it was. Only that it was heavily infiltrated. 1. First, the entire Pub party wasn't built on racism and slavery. The Party of the KKK was. The KKK was, and is, a creation of the Democrat Party. The Dems didn't even renounce lynching until 1947. The Dems enacted Jim Crow, and supported segregation, and it was the Pubs that got the Civil Right's Act passed, since the Dems refused to vote for it. Larry Craig was an outlier, and was drummed out of the party. Byrd was promoted by the Party of the KKK. 2. And how do you know they are "heavily infiltrated"? From the LR media? The ones that look for anything they can pin on the Tea Party, to deflect from the racism and corruption of the Party of the KKK?
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