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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 11:18:34 GMT -5
Is anyone still running it at home or at work or know anyone who is? The clock is ticking!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 11:37:25 GMT -5
Nope, Windows 8 here!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:02:09 GMT -5
I have an old PC that still has it. I don't use it for anything more than a jukebox.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:22:02 GMT -5
Is anyone still running it at home or at work or know anyone who is? The clock is ticking!!! Yes I am. John C. Dvorak just wrote an article about Microsoft losing out on a potential opportunity by not charging everyone a $1 a month to continue supporting it. www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2454844,00.asp
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:26:57 GMT -5
Really? How many people are still sing XP? Even software is evolving beyond its capabilities no?
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Post by Flu on Mar 14, 2014 13:36:08 GMT -5
At work no one wants to upgrade from XP. We have about 80% that are still XP. We're going through now deciding who will be getting upgraded and who won't. There are some that we won't worry about it as they're really not connected to the internet. We'll start with the more critical ones and work our way through. I'll be really getting that cranked up when I get back from vacation starting on Monday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 13:58:28 GMT -5
We are moving so quickly where I work to get off XP that it is bunging things up. A lady called me one day this week from another city and she was very near crying. The help desk associated one of her files with something and she did not know how to associate it back. It isn't my job but I helped her get it back.
Where I work the dudes comes to your desk, pulls out your XP machine. Throws win7 machine down, hooks it up, turns it on and walks away. If you go to hime with a question (I had one when I first got mine) he says "call the help desk". I feel sorry for our clerical folks. I mean us IT people can slog through the changes but the clerical people need some support.
ANYWAY, there was an article about how 10s of thousands of bank machines are running Win XP, not exactly the same version as for desktops but similar. Supposedly banks are going to pay microsoft for continued support or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 14:00:38 GMT -5
At work no one wants to upgrade from XP. We have about 80% that are still XP. We're going through now deciding who will be getting upgraded and who won't. There are some that we won't worry about it as they're really not connected to the internet. We'll start with the more critical ones and work our way through. I'll be really getting that cranked up when I get back from vacation starting on Monday. Talk about the 11th hour!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 14:03:48 GMT -5
I have an old PC that still has it. I don't use it for anything more than a jukebox. That should be ok. I've read that as long as the machine does not access the internet then XP will be fine. I think I read that on a microsoft page somewhere.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 14, 2014 14:17:43 GMT -5
Yes I am. John C. Dvorak just wrote an article about Microsoft losing out on a potential opportunity by not charging everyone a $1 a month to continue supporting it. Windows 8 is sufficient proof that Microsoft does not care what customers want. An ugly user interface that represents a radical change in experience, all so they can maintain one set of shell code and try to lure people to their phones, which no one wants? The Nokia acquisition remains one of Ballmer's bigger mistakes. Their new CEO is supposedly from a business unit where sharp competition forced him to develop a more customer-centric approach, but with Gates and Ballmer still on the board I wonder how much of that he'll be able to bring to the whole organization.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 15:44:39 GMT -5
I have an old PC that still has it. I don't use it for anything more than a jukebox. That should be ok. I've read that as long as the machine does not access the internet then XP will be fine. I think I read that on a microsoft page somewhere. It is not on the internet. I sneaker-net new tunes onto it. Even then, maybe once a month it gets booted up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 15:54:59 GMT -5
Yes I am. John C. Dvorak just wrote an article about Microsoft losing out on a potential opportunity by not charging everyone a $1 a month to continue supporting it. Windows 8 is sufficient proof that Microsoft does not care what customers want. An ugly user interface that represents a radical change in experience, all so they can maintain one set of shell code and try to lure people to their phones, which no one wants? The Nokia acquisition remains one of Ballmer's bigger mistakes. Their new CEO is supposedly from a business unit where sharp competition forced him to develop a more customer-centric approach, but with Gates and Ballmer still on the board I wonder how much of that he'll be able to bring to the whole organization. You got that one right.
I'm one of the poor suckers that suffered through Millennium. I skipped Vista as well. I'm using Windows 7 home pro and like it a lot, I've learned not to upgrade just to to keep up with the geeks (no offense intended). It seems to me that Microcrap has a habit of publishing a crap program, replacing it with a good program after a few years, and then, ignoring history, produces another crap program, just to make more bucks.
I'll stick with 7 until 8's successor comes out, by that time it will probably be time for a new computer as well.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 14, 2014 17:39:45 GMT -5
I'll stick with 7 until 8's successor comes out, by that time it will probably be time for a new computer as well. This is my plan as well. They seem to get it right about every other OS.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 14, 2014 18:02:01 GMT -5
As a software developer, I loathe the people who still cling to XP. Some of it is budgetary, some of it is people dislike change. Truth is XP was and is an OS full of security holes, and will not run a lot of current software due to it's shell file operations being deprecated starting with Vista.
Win 7 is far superior, and it's not exactly much of a learning curve. The truth is underneath the GUI, Win 7 and Win 8 are for the most part identical. Most people hate Win 8 because they don't like they GUI and are not used to it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 19:07:15 GMT -5
Opinions are like a-holes. I like Windows 8 and the interface. Once I took a little time to learn it, I liked it even more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 19:08:05 GMT -5
As a software developer, I loathe the people who still cling to XP. Some of it is budgetary, some of it is people dislike change. Truth is XP was and is an OS full of security holes, and will not run a lot of current software due to it's shell file operations being deprecated starting with Vista. Win 7 is far superior, and it's not exactly much of a learning curve. The truth is underneath the GUI, Win 7 and Win 8 are for the most part identical. Most people hate Win 8 because they don't like they GUI and are not used to it. That. People hate change.
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Post by segram99 on Mar 14, 2014 19:23:56 GMT -5
I'm not the most computer literate, but I know I hate Windows 8. I might feel differently if I had a touch screen laptop, but all I have is a touch pad and curser. If you touch the pad to far to the right, the damn side bar comes out. I never had Windows 7, but for what I do on the computer, I loved Windows XP.
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Post by rocketwolf on Mar 14, 2014 19:45:27 GMT -5
Windows 7 on my comp because I needed 64 bit to run Nikon NX2 photo software, I really like it. Wife and office comps are still Win XP.
Both of those are the wife's domain so to speak, I'm not sure what I should say.
Any ideas
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 20:16:28 GMT -5
Windows 7 on my comp because I needed 64 bit to run Nikon NX2 photo software, I really like it. Wife and office comps are still Win XP. Both of those are the wife's domain so to speak, I'm not sure what I should say. Any ideas I'm no computer expert, however we're running Windows 7 64 bit and we like it as well. I'm not sure, however I don't think that XP has a 64 bit capability.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 20:26:04 GMT -5
Windows 7 on my comp because I needed 64 bit to run Nikon NX2 photo software, I really like it. Wife and office comps are still Win XP. Both of those are the wife's domain so to speak, I'm not sure what I should say. Any ideas I'm no computer expert, however we're running Windows 7 64 bit and we like it as well. I'm not sure, however I don't think that XP has a 64 bit capability. There was a separate 64-bit version of Windows XP available.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 20:43:37 GMT -5
As a software developer, I loathe the people who still cling to XP. Some of it is budgetary, some of it is people dislike change. Truth is XP was and is an OS full of security holes, and will not run a lot of current software due to it's shell file operations being deprecated starting with Vista. Win 7 is far superior, and it's not exactly much of a learning curve. The truth is underneath the GUI, Win 7 and Win 8 are for the most part identical. Most people hate Win 8 because they don't like they GUI and are not used to it. The problem is that specifically versioned software programs that actually do what people want them to do, end up requiring extra effort (such as virtualization) to keep them working in later OS versions. Upgrading from XP to Windows 7 is a real pain in the applets. I don't care about the interface. I do care about the hours of productivity time lost trying to get things working again.
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Post by alienrace on Mar 14, 2014 21:34:31 GMT -5
Well I'd personally have to question any software that hasn't been updated to keep up with the times. That just sounds like poor support, or dead software. Dinosaurs die ya know
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Post by rocketwolf on Mar 15, 2014 6:13:51 GMT -5
I'm no computer expert, however we're running Windows 7 64 bit and we like it as well. I'm not sure, however I don't think that XP has a 64 bit capability. There was a separate 64-bit version of Windows XP available. There is but it would not handle Nikon NX2 software and that is my main photo software.
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Post by husagafella on Mar 15, 2014 13:24:13 GMT -5
As a software developer, I loathe the people who still cling to XP. Some of it is budgetary, some of it is people dislike change. Truth is XP was and is an OS full of security holes, and will not run a lot of current software due to it's shell file operations being deprecated starting with Vista. Win 7 is far superior, and it's not exactly much of a learning curve. The truth is underneath the GUI, Win 7 and Win 8 are for the most part identical. Most people hate Win 8 because they don't like they GUI and are not used to it. Wow, you "loathe" people that "cling" to XP. You sound just like one of those liberal elitist that know what is best for everyone. Millions of folks think its fine for email, basic word processing and spreadsheets, itunes, photo's, facebook, etc. Seriously, if it is meeting a person's needs, why should you loathe them for not wanting to have to buy new software or a new computer they don't believe they need?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Mar 15, 2014 14:23:42 GMT -5
As a software developer, I loathe the people who still cling to XP. Some of it is budgetary, some of it is people dislike change. Truth is XP was and is an OS full of security holes, and will not run a lot of current software due to it's shell file operations being deprecated starting with Vista. Win 7 is far superior, and it's not exactly much of a learning curve. The truth is underneath the GUI, Win 7 and Win 8 are for the most part identical. Most people hate Win 8 because they don't like they GUI and are not used to it. I skipped Vista on the basis of the "every other OS they bungle it" curse from Microsoft, and on the basis of user experience, and for the reason that I find little reason to upgrade the operating system on a functioning computer with functioning software. It's just asking for trouble. Windows 7 is superior to XP, I will concede that and for a number of reasons. Windows 8 is basically Windows 7 but they didn't want to run two sets of shell code, so they tried to force desktop users to use the third most favorite phone shell. Yep, third. That just made no sense at all, and newly minted marketing major could have told them so. Sometimes interfaces that work well for small sized touch screen devices do not on desktops. Plus... it's ugly. Stone ugly. Dull, monocolored icons in a drab palette. We'll see what 9 offers, but here's the lesson Microsoft can't learn: Give customers what they ask for, not what you think they should have. The only reason they're still in business is because for practical purposes they have no competition (Yes, I know about Linux, but there isn't a lot of commercial software for it, nor a lot of support for enterprise IT departments. It's really for hobbyists.)
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