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Post by Evil Yoda on Oct 16, 2014 15:47:02 GMT -5
I've created a single thread for Orioles' signings and departures that occur during the off-season, and made it sticky so people can easily find it. There's no requirement to use this thread. It's just meant as a way for people to find this material easily. First entry, J. J. Hardy - Three years, $40MM range, according to this source: J. J. Hardy extension |
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Post by alienrace on Oct 16, 2014 16:39:18 GMT -5
I'd like to see them retain Cruz, and Markakis(restructured over 3 years like Hardy). No way should we pick up Markakis's option at 17mil for next year. Markakis is likely to stay, and Cruz wants to stay, but we'll see if he still thinks that when some team throws a truckload of money at him. Would love to keep Andrew Miller, but he's a longshot I think. Delmon Young would be a nice luxury as well, but I think somebody is going to pay him to play every day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 20:35:08 GMT -5
I'm thinking that Cruz has played his last game as an Oriole. With the dearth of righthanded power hitters in the game right now, someone will likely make him a very lucrative offer (Boston, perhaps?. As I stated in another thread, the only two factors working against Cruz are his age (34) and likely having compensation attached to him if the Orioles make him a qualifying offer as expected.
Miller was the best deadline deal in baseball this season, and he was absolutely lights-out for the Orioles. Like Cruz, I'd love to see him stay, but he's in line for a nice payday somewhere (I've seen as much as three years and $30 million). It's never a good idea to throw big money at bullpen guys; they're simply too volatile from year to year. |
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Post by mmmbeer on Oct 17, 2014 7:47:27 GMT -5
I hear you on the bullpen. It's a real crapshoot w/ those guys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 23:04:01 GMT -5
The Orioles will have a number of players entering their final year until free agency--O'Day, Weiters, Davis, Chen, Hunter--but if they fall out of the race next season, they should at least have a few trade chips to work with. Assuming they all perform somewhat near their 2014 levels--and Davis rebounds--all would be attractive to contenders.
If the Orioles do indeed re-sign Andrew Miller (and I think the chances are very slim), I'd expect them to try and move Hunter and/or Matusz. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 1, 2014 15:14:44 GMT -5
Options picked up on O'Day and Chen. Declined for Markakis. They have until Monday, I believe, to negotiate with him before he becomes a free agent.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 3, 2014 18:46:40 GMT -5
Recent activity:
Declined option for Hundley.
Reinstate Machado from 60 day DL following successful knee ligament repair.
Reinstate Weiters from 60 day DL following successful elbow ligament repair.
Made qualifying offer to Cruz, $15.1MM. Cruz has until 11/10 to accept or decline.
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Post by alienrace on Nov 4, 2014 11:54:52 GMT -5
Recent activity: Declined option for Hundley. Reinstate Machado from 60 day DL following successful knee ligament repair. Reinstate Weiters from 60 day DL following successful elbow ligament repair. Made qualifying offer to Cruz, $15.1MM. Cruz has until 11/10 to accept or decline. Really hope they can keep Cruz. I'm sure though, that the Yankees or some other club will throw a ton of money at him. Though 15.1 isn't bad for a 35 year DH to be making. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 4, 2014 14:42:22 GMT -5
Really hope they can keep Cruz. I'm sure though, that the Yankees or some other club will throw a ton of money at him. Though 15.1 isn't bad for a 35 year DH to be making. Someone will. I doubt it will be the Yankees; they've already got old guys who can't field any more for the DH spot, don't they?  But someone will. The Yankees made a qualifying offer to Robertson; if he moves on they'd be in the market for a closer. I could see them throwing stupid money at Miller for that slot. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 0:25:30 GMT -5
Seattle has been mentioned as a possible landing spot for Cruz, although it makes little sense to me. Homerun power in that park is about as useful as neat handwriting. Look how Robinson Cano's power numbers dropped after playing half his games in Seattle. I could see Cruz getting as much as four years and up to $70 million from someone, but like last offseason, he'll have compensation attached to him. How much is a team willing to pay for a player in his mid-30s whose best position is rapidly becoming designated hitter?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 5, 2014 15:19:13 GMT -5
Markakis won a Gold Glove. That's likely to drive his price up a little bit, but I assume the Orioles anticipated that possibility when making their offers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 0:50:54 GMT -5
As expected, Nelson Cruz rejected the Orioles' qualifying offer Monday and moves on to free agency. Of the 12 players who received qualifying offers, none accepted. One player, Michael Cuddyer, rejected Colorado's qualifying offer and signed a rather surprising two-year/$21 million deal with the Mets. The Mets must now forfeit their first-round draft pick for 2015, which is No. 15 overall. Below are the 12 players who said thanks, but no thanks.
• Melky Cabrera, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
• Nelson Cruz, DH/OF, Baltimore Orioles
• Francisco Liriano, P, Pittsburgh Pirates
• Russell Martin, C, Pittsburgh Pirates
• Victor Martinez, DH/1B, Detroit Tigers
• Hanley Ramirez, SS, Los Angeles Dodgers
• David Robertson, P, New York Yankees
• Pablo Sandoval, 3B, San Francisco Giants
• Ervin Santana, P, Atlanta Braves
• Max Scherzer, P, Detroit Tigers
• James Shields, P, Kansas City Royals
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 12:26:13 GMT -5
According to Ken Rosenthal, the Marlins have reportedly entered into talks with Giancarlo Stanton on a contract said to be worth at least 10 years and $300 million. Granted, righthanded power hitters are currently rarer than spotted owls in major league baseball, but you've got to wonder what Miami is thinking if this is indeed true. The last time they went on a spending spree in 2011, they wound up holding a fire sale before the 2012 season was completed.
The Marlins can't draw flies in their new ballpark, and their payroll last season was just over $47 million, 29th in the majors. Now they're suddenly going to pay one guy almost two thirds that amount? I can understand trying to lock up a star player before he hits free agency, but Stanton still has two years to go, yet Miami seems willing to pay him as if he had already reached free agency. It'll also be interesting to see--if these rumors prove to be true--if Jeffery Loria will be willing to give Stanton a no-trade clause. The Marlins were able to do their last salary dump since none of the free agents they signed had such a provision. Stanton is almost certain to insist on such a clause. |
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Post by mmmbeer on Nov 17, 2014 22:17:59 GMT -5
this is depressing, but not as depressing as the estimate of Bill Gross getting a $290M bonus last year. I remember when Imelda Marcos was an international object of derision and scorn for her excess. Now, obscene greed/wealth is glorified. I know this is off topic and that's the way things are going in this century, but I wish somebody in a position of power & wealth would leave some $ on the table. I would love for a CEO to say, "you know what, I can get buy on $5M/year if it means an extra $5k for the men & women working for me". end rant. sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 0:17:38 GMT -5
The A's and Blue Jays just pulled off a blockbuster deal with Josh Donaldson going to the A's in return for Brett Lawrie and three minor leaguers I never heard of.
With the Donaldson trade and the signing of Russell Martin (for way too much) the Blue Jays figure to have a nice lineup. But their pitching ranks are still very thin. I'm not sure I understand this trade from Oakland's perspective, however, since Donaldson isn't even arbitration-eligible as of yet. Billy Beane certainly isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a trade, but you have to wonder if he hasn't shot himself in the foot. I guess time will, however, depending on whether or not the prospects Oakland received ever become productive major leaguers. |
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Post by Evil Yoda on Nov 29, 2014 11:39:25 GMT -5
The A's and Blue Jays just pulled off a blockbuster deal with Josh Donaldson going to the A's in return for Brett Lawrie and three minor leaguers I never heard of. Is this backwards? Donaldson was an A. And Lawrie a Jay, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 20:11:29 GMT -5
The A's and Blue Jays just pulled off a blockbuster deal with Josh Donaldson going from the A's in return for Brett Lawrie and three minor leaguers I never heard of. Is this backwards? Donaldson was an A. And Lawrie a Jay, right? Fixed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 0:05:00 GMT -5
Nelson Cruz to the Mariners for a reported 4 years and $58 million. Now that he'll be playing half his games in Seattle, it's probably safe to say that Cruz will not be leading the majors in homers again.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 2, 2014 14:25:17 GMT -5
Might be he came here for a year precisely because CY is a bandbox. If so, it worked. More power to him. Hope it works out for him, except when they play the O's.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 3, 2014 12:33:28 GMT -5
Orioles have tendered offers to all eleven of their arbitration eligible players. They are: Chris Davis, Alejandro De Aza, Matt Wieters, Steve Pearce, Bud Norris, Tommy Hunter, Brian Matusz, Chris Tillman, Miguel Gonzalez, Ryan Flaherty and Zach Britton.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 3, 2014 19:43:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 23:31:47 GMT -5
That's certainly not an unmatchable figure. Something tells me the Orioles weren't particularly interested in bringing Nick back.
The loss of Cruz hurt, but Markakis, not as much. Still, I'm sorry to see him go and I wish him well with Atlanta.
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Post by mmmbeer on Dec 4, 2014 9:20:56 GMT -5
article in the Sun stated that the hearsay was the Os didn't want to go 4 years.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Dec 4, 2014 11:05:23 GMT -5
Chant I heard was they offered him three years and he wanted four. They might be gunshy following the Ubaldo signing, which was basically money wasted - Duq's biggest mistake. We'll see if Kake can stay healthy for four years. Duq might wind up looking like a genius if he can't. Or like a goat if he really helps them. Interestingly, they did (essentially) fire their hitting coach. I wonder if they felt he wasn't getting the best out of the players?
There's no room for sentimentality or loyalty in baseball. If Markakis no longer wanted to be an Oriole that is his decision to make. As has been said, we will miss Cruz far more. Last two years, Kake's power had largely deserted him. Still a good on base hitter and a good defender, but they need power. We'll see if they're willing to spend for it. The Angelos history has been one of miserliness in player spending.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 2:16:38 GMT -5
Not that I'm trying to trash Markakis, but a .700 OPS for a corner outfielder is certainly nothing special. Nick wasn't a huge power hitter to begin with, so I'd think the Orioles would like to find someone who can work counts and get on base. They've got enough guys who just get up there and hack.
Nori Aoki of the Royals might be a possible alternative. His offensive and defensive metrics are comparable to Nick (only 1 homer, but a leadoff hitter isn't supposed to be Babe Ruth), and it's projected that he'll get a two-year deal for somewhere in the $16 million range.
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But someone will.