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Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 19:24:23 GMT -5
I wonder if their warnings were addressed to President Unexpectedly, too.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:25:26 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 19:25:26 GMT -5
Obama forgot to add the caveat 5 times about being able to keep the doctor and insurance you like.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:26:17 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 19:26:17 GMT -5
I wonder if their warnings were addressed to President Unexpectedly, too. According to Jon Stewart, Obama might cry if he were to be presented bad news.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:30:05 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 19:30:05 GMT -5
How do you tell someone whose premium has tripled that it is affordable care?
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Oct 29, 2013 19:33:45 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 19:33:45 GMT -5
How do you tell someone whose premium has tripled that it is affordable care? How do you tell an "indestructible" kid that he has to buy one or else?
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Oct 29, 2013 19:35:21 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 19:35:21 GMT -5
I wonder if their warnings were addressed to President Unexpectedly, too. According to Jon Stewart, Obama might cry if he were to be presented bad news. Yes I saw that clip. And it makes perfect sense. I mean why else would no one bother to tell him what was wrong with the law named after him, or convince him to even check and see that everything was going well?
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Oct 29, 2013 19:39:23 GMT -5
Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 19:39:23 GMT -5
According to Jon Stewart, Obama might cry if he were to be presented bad news. Yes I saw that clip. And it makes perfect sense. I mean why else would no one bother to tell him what was wrong with the law named after him, or convince him to even check and see that everything was going well? According to mainstream sources, the warning flags have been flapping in the breeze all year that 404care.gov would not be what Obamacare's supporters would hope it'd be. That their website would be in intensive care three weeks in should not have been a surprise to insiders. Yet they launched anyway.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:44:53 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 19:44:53 GMT -5
Yes I saw that clip. And it makes perfect sense. I mean why else would no one bother to tell him what was wrong with the law named after him, or convince him to even check and see that everything was going well? According to mainstream sources, the warning flags have been flapping in the breeze all year that 404care.gov would not be what Obamacare's supporters would hope it'd be. That their website would be in intensive care three weeks in should not have been a surprise to insiders. Yet they launched anyway. The really crazy thing is, as far as I can tell, the website wasn't even expected to do anything complicated. I mean, if progressive.com can provide you with a car insurance quote from themselves and a handful of other car insurance providers, why is providing health insurance so complicated? It's not even as though there are an infinite number of insurance plans to choose from. Even if they STARTED creating this website on October 1, it should be just fine by now.
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Post by douger on Oct 29, 2013 19:53:38 GMT -5
According to mainstream sources, the warning flags have been flapping in the breeze all year that 404care.gov would not be what Obamacare's supporters would hope it'd be. That their website would be in intensive care three weeks in should not have been a surprise to insiders. Yet they launched anyway. The really crazy thing is, as far as I can tell, the website wasn't even expected to do anything complicated. I mean, if progressive.com can provide you with a car insurance quote from themselves and a handful of other car insurance providers, why is providing health insurance so complicated? It's not even as though there are an infinite number of insurance plans to choose from. Even if they STARTED creating this website on October 1, it should be just fine by now. Actually, the website does have to do complicated things. It was designed so that it could minimize the sticker shock of the new plans that Obamacare hath wrought. Thus, the registration, which would check the IRS database for income verification purposes so that it could calculate the subsidy and knock down some of the premium prices. Apparently, the government, for good or bad, does not have computers that can talk to each other. There are many different programming languages in use in the government. Getting them to communicate with 404care.gov seems to be a rather daunting task. Hiring one of Mooch's college classmates's company certainly didn't help. Canada had fired them after they failed to deliver a working website for their universal care system. The process that HHS used to farm out the programming needs was also highly unusual.
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Oct 29, 2013 19:57:50 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 19:57:50 GMT -5
The really crazy thing is, as far as I can tell, the website wasn't even expected to do anything complicated. I mean, if progressive.com can provide you with a car insurance quote from themselves and a handful of other car insurance providers, why is providing health insurance so complicated? It's not even as though there are an infinite number of insurance plans to choose from. Even if they STARTED creating this website on October 1, it should be just fine by now. Actually, the website does have to do complicated things. It was designed so that it could minimize the sticker shock of the new plans that Obamacare hath wrought. Thus, the registration, which would check the IRS database for income verification purposes so that it could calculate the subsidy and knock down some of the premium prices. Apparently, the government, for good or bad, does not have computers that can talk to each other. There are many different programming languages in use in the government. Getting them to communicate with 404care.gov seems to be a rather daunting task. Hiring one of Mooch's college classmates's company certainly didn't help. Canada had fired them after they failed to deliver a working website for their universal care system. The process that HHS used to farm out the programming needs was also highly unusual. But does that actually HAVE to be done? Why not report your own income, and have the IRS verify it later?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:10:30 GMT -5
I think we should organize a protest march on Washington bigger then any administration has ever seen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:12:08 GMT -5
They had to destroy our health coverage in order to save it.
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Oct 29, 2013 20:14:33 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 20:14:33 GMT -5
I think we should organize a protest march on Washington bigger then any administration has ever seen. I donno... If President Unexpectedly wasn't aware of the scope of the problems with the roll-out of a program named after him, there's no way anyone could ever organize a protest large enough for him to notice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:18:06 GMT -5
Fox News is reporting the website is down. What a debacle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:25:45 GMT -5
The really crazy thing is, as far as I can tell, the website wasn't even expected to do anything complicated. I mean, if progressive.com can provide you with a car insurance quote from themselves and a handful of other car insurance providers, why is providing health insurance so complicated? It's not even as though there are an infinite number of insurance plans to choose from. Even if they STARTED creating this website on October 1, it should be just fine by now. Actually, the website does have to do complicated things. It was designed so that it could minimize the sticker shock of the new plans that Obamacare hath wrought. Thus, the registration, which would check the IRS database for income verification purposes so that it could calculate the subsidy and knock down some of the premium prices. Apparently, the government, for good or bad, does not have computers that can talk to each other. There are many different programming languages in use in the government. Getting them to communicate with 404care.gov seems to be a rather daunting task. Hiring one of Mooch's college classmates's company certainly didn't help. Canada had fired them after they failed to deliver a working website for their universal care system. The process that HHS used to farm out the programming needs was also highly unusual. True but being able to create an account is not that complicated and the website even had trouble doing that. newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2013/10/10/my-failed-attempt-create-obamacare-account-can-site-really-be-stuplinkFurthermore, it would have been nice if people could have done some basic comparison window shopping without creating an account even if a "no subsidies yet applied" disclaimer is necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:26:27 GMT -5
Fox News is reporting the website is down. What a debacle. Someone must have tried to do something unexpected like logging in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:29:40 GMT -5
Fox News is reporting the website is down. What a debacle. Someone must have tried to do something unexpected like logging in. Post of the day - I would give you 1000 green chiclets for this post. Fox is also reporting that the 800 number might be fixed in 5 minutes or 2 days. Who is running this outhouse?
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Oct 29, 2013 20:31:42 GMT -5
Post by Ranger John on Oct 29, 2013 20:31:42 GMT -5
Someone must have tried to do something unexpected like logging in. Post of the day - I would give you 1000 green chiclets for this post. Fox is also reporting that the 800 number might be fixed in 5 minutes or 2 days. Who is running this outhouse? Oh yeah.. good old 1-800-F1UCK-YO
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Oct 29, 2013 20:39:59 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 20:39:59 GMT -5
Well we have a slew of known Obama haters yelling...shockingly...that obamacare plan won't work ever! So I didn't learn anything new here.
And for the sake of your Republican Party.... You better hope you're right about this obamacare stuff. You guys can't take many more humiliating defeats and terrible candidates. It's been a long slump.
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Oct 29, 2013 20:42:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:42:18 GMT -5
In 2009 Obama guaranteed that if you liked your insurance and doctor you could keep them. He lied.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:46:15 GMT -5
According to mainstream sources, the warning flags have been flapping in the breeze all year that 404care.gov would not be what Obamacare's supporters would hope it'd be. That their website would be in intensive care three weeks in should not have been a surprise to insiders. Yet they launched anyway. The really crazy thing is, as far as I can tell, the website wasn't even expected to do anything complicated. I mean, if progressive.com can provide you with a car insurance quote from themselves and a handful of other car insurance providers, why is providing health insurance so complicated? It's not even as though there are an infinite number of insurance plans to choose from. Even if they STARTED creating this website on October 1, it should be just fine by now. Nepotism and "good enough for government work" contractors. Reminds me of when we were forced into Chessie, the debacle of a child welfare computer system Maryland uses, about 8 or 9 years ago....constant freezes and crashes, court still won't accept the reports it produces, so folks have to use Word for court stuff; glitch after glitch, crash after crash; still to this day it doesn't full work right-- froze on me twice today and had to re-boot it. And they were prepping it for close to a decade due to Fed mandate for state-wide system. It's much better than it was when it was new-- but that just means it's gone from an hot steam pile of outdated crap to a slightly warm pile of outdated crap. Would not be surprised if same contractor was hired for Obamacare site!!
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Oct 29, 2013 20:50:56 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:50:56 GMT -5
Someone must have tried to do something unexpected like logging in. Post of the day - I would give you 1000 green chiclets for this post. Fox is also reporting that the 800 number might be fixed in 5 minutes or 2 days. Who is running this outhouse? There's always their simple paper application which refers back to the website or phone number for assistance. State the art convenience.
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Oct 29, 2013 20:54:49 GMT -5
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 20:54:49 GMT -5
Lol thanks Fox!!!!
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Oct 29, 2013 20:55:24 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 20:55:24 GMT -5
That won't work as they are trying to save trees.
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Post by Moses on Oct 29, 2013 20:57:14 GMT -5
That won't work as they are trying to save trees. Who is? They? Where's Semi?
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