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Post by Ranger John on Oct 12, 2017 17:07:53 GMT -5
Check the salaries, RJ. Most NFL players are not making tens of millions. In fact, very few make that much. But continue to live in you mythological world. Yes, the NFL has the right to shut them up -- any employer does. But what has the NFL done? Nothing. Glad you admit that you want to keep white power reigning. Had a feeling that was the case. Plus the average career of an NFL player is only 2.66 years. So what. Even rookies make six figures to PLAY A GAME. Oh... those poor oppressed little snowflakes. However will they survive? Come on, man, shed some tears for those 1%ers, and tell us all how oppressed linebackers are. They're practically slaves!
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 12, 2017 17:14:32 GMT -5
An NFL rookie makes $365,000 on average. Over 2.66 years, that's $949,000. Realistically, we would round that up to $1,000,000 to account for signing bonuses, and higher pay in the second and third year.
The average salary in the US is $48,000/ year. It would take the average person 20 years to make what those poor, oppressed NFL players would make in those 2.66 years.
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Post by palealeman on Oct 12, 2017 18:04:31 GMT -5
You should have kept reading, RJ. You'd have learned that about 70% of the players make less than that average. Then factor in the short career. Not a lot of money, is it.
And someone can only talk about oppression if they don't have a lot of money? Is that your argument? That the rich should just shut up and count their money?
And maybe you need to get out of your enclave and see what life is like for the other half. Ever spend time in an inner city? In a prison? In a primary or junior high (not including when you went there)? Isn't Ferguson in fly-over country?
Been trying for months to figure out what kind of ranger you were. Thought maybe it was the military type, but I don't think so. I'm leaning toward a park ranger in a small, out of the way park.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 12, 2017 18:10:31 GMT -5
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 12, 2017 18:38:21 GMT -5
You should have kept reading, RJ. You'd have learned that about 70% of the players make less than that average. Then factor in the short career. Not a lot of money, is it. And someone can only talk about oppression if they don't have a lot of money? Is that your argument? That the rich should just shut up and count their money? And maybe you need to get out of your enclave and see what life is like for the other half. Ever spend time in an inner city? In a prison? In a primary or junior high (not including when you went there)? Isn't Ferguson in fly-over country? Been trying for months to figure out what kind of ranger you were. Thought maybe it was the military type, but I don't think so. I'm leaning toward a park ranger in a small, out of the way park. I'm going to remind you both of what Kaepernick's justification is for his protest: “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.” He's asserting that this country oppresses black people. Not just some parts of this country. Not just some individuals do, or that some corporations, but the COUNTRY. And it doesn't just oppress some black people, not just poor black people, or rich black people, or black women, but all black people, INCLUDING HIMSELF. He's not TALKING about oppression. He's claiming that HE IS OPPRESSED! Simply by virtue of being black. A man that made $11 million in one year for playing a game, is OPPRESSED by the country where he lives! If that is oppression, I WOULD LOVE TO BE OPPRESSED. And so would everyone I know. This is so obviously untrue - to the point of being bat-crap crazy - that you ought to be embarrassed believing it. You'd do well actually learning what happened in Ferguson. A criminal told a lie, the media trumpeted it, and convinced the local blacks to burn down their own city. That you would hold such an event up as an example of oppression... that's crazy too. And yes, I've both lived and worked inside the Washington Beltway. I've worked in poor and minority neighborhoods in and around Baltimore too. I've been in jails and prisons (in fact, my ex of 14 years was a convicted felon). And I went to public schools, and worked in them as well (though many years ago). Get out of your liberal elite bubble PAM. You're embarrassing yourself. For effs-sake, THINK about what it is you're supporting. Don't just mindlessly regurgitate what your programmers in the media are telling you.
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Post by palealeman on Oct 12, 2017 20:13:42 GMT -5
Again, you're saying someone who has a lot of money can't even talk about oppression.
Ever heard of being arrested for walking while black, or for driving while black? Ever deard of a council member or a legislator or prosecutor being arrested for driving while black because the car looked expensive?
We live in a society with a lot of racism. We live in a society that treats different segments differently. But you refuse to see that. You continue to live in your little bubble and think that, if someone makes a lot of money, that person should be satisfied with life and keep quiet.
Rather pathetic. Who's living in a bubble?
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 12, 2017 20:52:02 GMT -5
Again, you're saying someone who has a lot of money can't even talk about oppression. No. I’m saying that someone who made more in one year than 90% of people will make in their entire lives for playing a game can not claim to be oppressed. And if he makes that claim about a country where he made his fortune he has suffered a break from reality. No. I’ve heard of people who have made such accusations, but it is not possible to be arrested for driving while black. Being arrested means an officer has charged you with a crime. Being black is not a crime. I would suggest that next time you’re out driving, you see how close you have to be to another vehicle before you’re able to determine what race the other driver is. Then come back and tell me if it still seems reasonable to you that the police stopping people for driving while black is a legitimate thing. You’re living in a bubble. You uncritically swallow whatever the media tells you about race in this country. It is largely not true. There are small pockets of racism here and there. It exists on both sides, in the form of the Klan and BLM, among other groups. The latter is much larger and far more vocal than the former. Even so, there is very little racism in our society.
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Post by palealeman on Oct 13, 2017 7:51:18 GMT -5
Obviously, RJ, we disagree, and we will continue to disagree. You accuse me of living in a bubble. It seems that you live in one too, one that's just as divorced from the reality of life in this country as you claim mine is.
I see no need for any further discussion on this topic -- it's fruitless. Neither of us is going to change the other.
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 10:34:26 GMT -5
So, what "charity" or "foundation" did he donate to? Has he actually donated money, or has he just said he's going to? When will he start going out into 'his' communities to work with the people there? Why hasn't he ridden with police to actually see what goes on? Several of the "protestors" have done so, and much of their opinions have changed. They saw what reality was, as opposed to the racist propaganda coming from BLM and the fake news.
Again, you simply regurgitate the racist, Communist propaganda from the fake news. Blacks are shot by police at a far smaller rate than whites. Even though blacks commit crimes at massively greater frequency. They don't 'shoot first and ask questions later'. They do their jobs, quite well, in nearly every situation. The issue is the race baiters from the Party of the KKK, and the Communist Party (sorry, that's redundant), wanting blacks to be given a free pass to do whatever they want to whomever they want with no consequences. Because of "slavery" or some other blather. No race, no group, no nationality has escaped slavery at some period in history, so why are blacks so special? They don't "disproportionately" arrest blacks and minorities. Blacks and minority disproportionately commit crimes, so of course they are arrested. Shouldn't they be? Because they are minorities? Maybe they should obey the law, and they wouldn't be arrested so often.
You drank the Kool-Aid..... You can't answer the questions. He's like all the other "Progressive" imbeciles. He says he's "doing something" when in fact, all he's doing is posturing.
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 10:43:54 GMT -5
Yea, RJ, we shouldn't politicize sports. You might tell that to Jackie Robinson . . . Jim Brown . . . Tommy Smith and John Carlos . . . and dozens of others. Handed everything? Where do you live? A white enclave somewhere? If you'd bother to check, welfare roles are down over the last 15 or 20 years. I think you're proving, RJ, that you're one of those people who wants to keep the status quo, keep white power reigning. Everything you say seems to point to that. Why do you have a problem with the First Amendment? They didn't "politicize" sports as much as removed the racial barrier that the Democrats had thrown up. Star athletes are "handed everything", especially in poor areas. They are lionized all through school, given opportunities that the other kids don't get, passed through school when the others with the same failing grades are held back, given "incentives" to go to particular schools, and when they get there, are given the easiest courses, with "mentors" to get them through even those. As for welfare, maybe. However, food stamp recipients are at all time highs, because of The Puppet and his Merry Marxists, employment is at lows not seen since the 60's or 70's, foreclosures are at all time highs, and wages are stagnant, and have been for 20 years. The "status quo" is what got us to be the greatest nation the earth has ever seen. What your heros are fighting is having to actually work to earn a living, having to produce to keep a job, and not having everything simply handed to them. The ones that are "protesting" don't even know what they are protesting for, or against. They regurgitate Marxist propaganda to "explain" their whining and temper tantrums, but they aren't doing anything to change anything at all, except throwing hissy fits. What they are saying is "someone" needs to do something, but that "someone" is never them. As for "white power", that's the Democrat Party, from it's inception. They created Planned Parenthood specifically to commit genocide against backs and Jews, they pass "gun" laws to make sure that blacks won't be armed when they come for them with the lynching rope, and they import drug gangs from across the border to make sure that blacks, and other people trapped in the slums the Party of the KKK created and keeps enforced are addicted, or shot.
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 10:48:41 GMT -5
Check the salaries, RJ. Most NFL players are not making tens of millions. In fact, very few make that much. But continue to live in you mythological world. Yes, the NFL has the right to shut them up -- any employer does. But what has the NFL done? Nothing. Glad you admit that you want to keep white power reigning. Had a feeling that was the case. The greenest, lowest drafted rookie earns far more his first year than the average joe, working 9 to 5, and sometimes much longer than that, earns in 5. All for playing a kid's game.
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 10:57:45 GMT -5
You should have kept reading, RJ. You'd have learned that about 70% of the players make less than that average. Then factor in the short career. Not a lot of money, is it. And someone can only talk about oppression if they don't have a lot of money? Is that your argument? That the rich should just shut up and count their money? And maybe you need to get out of your enclave and see what life is like for the other half. Ever spend time in an inner city? In a prison? In a primary or junior high (not including when you went there)? Isn't Ferguson in fly-over country? Been trying for months to figure out what kind of ranger you were. Thought maybe it was the military type, but I don't think so. I'm leaning toward a park ranger in a small, out of the way park. And, in theory, they have a college degree, handed to them because they could play a game. 90% of the NFL players never paid a dime for that "education", either. They got scholarships. So, they make, let's say, $500,000 for playing a kid's game, can only play that game for about 3 years, then get to work where their degree let's them work. Plus, the fact that they were "NFL players" is a cachet that will earn them extra over their lifetime. But they are "oppressed"? Really? Cry me another. It's been the mantra of the Left, and the Party of the KKK that "the rich" have no right to say anything at all about anything at all, because "they stole all that money from the poor and the downtrodden". So, why do they get to complain, now, about "oppression", when they have done nothing at all to assuage the situation? These whiny little snowflakes are making a fuss because, on average, an NFL player is arrested every 27 days, usually for assaulting someone or DUI. They don't like having consequences for their illegal activities, so they are complaining that it's because they are black. As for that, why isn't the NFL required to have a white quota? Most of the players are black, and in the NBA, nearly 80% of the players are black. Why aren't they accused of racism?
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 11:05:24 GMT -5
Again, you're saying someone who has a lot of money can't even talk about oppression. Ever heard of being arrested for walking while black, or for driving while black? Ever deard of a council member or a legislator or prosecutor being arrested for driving while black because the car looked expensive? We live in a society with a lot of racism. We live in a society that treats different segments differently. But you refuse to see that. You continue to live in your little bubble and think that, if someone makes a lot of money, that person should be satisfied with life and keep quiet. Rather pathetic. Who's living in a bubble? Ever heard that blacks commit crimes at something like 10 times the rate of whites? Most of those complaining of "walking while black", or "driving while black" either committed an offense, or were in an area where a crime had been committed, the suspect was black, and they fit the description. Should the police ignore suspect descriptions if it includes color, just because blacks are offended? The racism in this society all comes from the Left, the ones ginning up and paying for all these "protests". Poor blacks, and those charged with crimes, have learned that they can get the weak minded and the inbreds on their side just by claiming racism. It's the Left and the Party of the KKK that sees only skin color. And they demand that, if your skin is a particular color, that you think the way they tell you to think, and act the way they tell you to act, or you aren't really "black", or "Hispanic". This is a fake 'protest', started, paid for, and encouraged by the Party of the KKK and their Communist masters. Blacks are privileged in this country. Affirmative Action was started to push blacks through schools that they weren't qualified to attend on their own merits, because the Left wants to dumb down the country to the point that their failed, anti-American policies start to make sense. It's the only way they can win anything, if the population is ignorant to the point of accepting slavery.
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 11:08:22 GMT -5
Obviously, RJ, we disagree, and we will continue to disagree. You accuse me of living in a bubble. It seems that you live in one too, one that's just as divorced from the reality of life in this country as you claim mine is. I see no need for any further discussion on this topic -- it's fruitless. Neither of us is going to change the other. That's because you have yet to produce a valid argument for your viewpoint. Racism is kept alive by the Left and the Party of the KKK strictly to keep blacks and other minorities enslaved in the slums the Party of the KKK has assigned them to, and to keep the Party of the KKK in power. It failed in the last election, because people have awakened to the disaster that Democrat regimes in power is.
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 11:09:49 GMT -5
As for the "tax breaks", yes the NFL is no longer in non profit status, but all those stadiums, paid for with tax free bonds, all the breaks it gets for travel, ect, yes, it does get massive tax breaks.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 13, 2017 12:26:02 GMT -5
NFL Thursday Night viewership is up 7%. So much for the ginned up "boycott".
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Post by redleg on Oct 13, 2017 12:43:07 GMT -5
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 13, 2017 12:44:02 GMT -5
Up from last year.
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Post by bobloblaw on Oct 13, 2017 12:53:33 GMT -5
....and then I Crapped in my Pants again.
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Post by redleg on Oct 23, 2017 11:18:27 GMT -5
Again, you're saying someone who has a lot of money can't even talk about oppression. Ever heard of being arrested for walking while black, or for driving while black? Ever deard of a council member or a legislator or prosecutor being arrested for driving while black because the car looked expensive? We live in a society with a lot of racism. We live in a society that treats different segments differently. But you refuse to see that. You continue to live in your little bubble and think that, if someone makes a lot of money, that person should be satisfied with life and keep quiet. Rather pathetic. Who's living in a bubble? Why not? We are told ad nauseum, that, unless you are black, you can't say a word about what the "blacks" are doing, unless you are a woman, you can't say a word about "women's issues", unless you are poor, you can't address anything dealing with the poor, so why are these racist idiots allowed to 'protest' poverty, or "injustice", or whatever they claim the protests are about today? We live in a society where the Left and the Party of the KKK create racism, because they can't win elections unless they create some "crisis" that they, and only they, can "address". They had Congress and the Presidency for 2 years, and did absolutely nothing about any of the "crisis" they are screaming about today. They have never done anything except add more slaves to their plantations by destroying the economy, then offering danegeld to come to their cause.
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Post by winston on Oct 23, 2017 12:17:39 GMT -5
Again, you're saying someone who has a lot of money can't even talk about oppression. Ever heard of being arrested for walking while black, or for driving while black? Ever deard of a council member or a legislator or prosecutor being arrested for driving while black because the car looked expensive? We live in a society with a lot of racism. We live in a society that treats different segments differently. But you refuse to see that. You continue to live in your little bubble and think that, if someone makes a lot of money, that person should be satisfied with life and keep quiet. Rather pathetic. Who's living in a bubble? Why not? We are told ad nauseum, that, unless you are black, you can't say a word about what the "blacks" are doing, unless you are a woman, you can't say a word about "women's issues", unless you are poor, you can't address anything dealing with the poor, so why are these racist idiots allowed to 'protest' poverty, or "injustice", or whatever they claim the protests are about today? We live in a society where the Left and the Party of the KKK create racism, because they can't win elections unless they create some "crisis" that they, and only they, can "address". They had Congress and the Presidency for 2 years, and did absolutely nothing about any of the "crisis" they are screaming about today. They have never done anything except add more slaves to their plantations by destroying the economy, then offering danegeld to come to their cause. We are tired of your stupid bs
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