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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2017 10:20:41 GMT -5
It's not that that the GOP (what a misnomer!) is out to get Mrs. Clinton. It's that they have been out to get her for the last 30 or more years. Whitewater, pork bellies, health care reform to name just a few. She's been a marked person since the late 80s. She put the bullseye on her own back. 900 classified FBI files that mysteriously "just appeared" in her office? Whitewater, where she was running an extortion scheme, health care "reform" that would force any student that wanted to be a doctor to only take what she decided "the country needed". Not only firing the Travel Office personnel so she could replace them with her cronies, but then filed scurrilous charges against them, all of which were dismissed, Uranium 1, her husband releasing convicted terrorists to get her elected to the Senate, her entire political life has been one big crime spree.
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2017 10:21:50 GMT -5
It's not that that the GOP (what a misnomer!) is out to get Mrs. Clinton. It's that they have been out to get her for the last 30 or more years. Whitewater, pork bellies, health care reform to name just a few. She's been a marked person since the late 80s. She's teflon coated. None of the Alt-Right's conspiracy theories can stick. The latest Uranium One conspiracy theory has already died. No, she's being protected by the swamp, because she knows where the bodies are buried, and they are terrified that she will spill on all of them if she is prosecuted.
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2017 10:23:17 GMT -5
There are tons of excellent reasons Hillary Clinton should spend the rest of her life locked up in a maximum security federal penitentiary. James Comey got on TV last fall and explained them in-depth, and then told everyone he wasn't going to do anything about it. So you need to get over this idea that the GOP is just out to get her. That is a load of crap. While impeachment is probably beside the point, and unnecessary anymore, my point is merely that it isn't entirely ridiculous, and there would be a valid reason for it. ONE word describes your comments, Ranger John... BULL... Clinton hasn't come even close to breaking any law... only in your hate-filled mind... So, treason is not "breaking the law"? Selling influence is not "breaking the law"? Selling classified information is not "breaking the law"? Destroying evidence during an investigation is not "breaking the law"? Accepting bribes to sell national security product is not "breaking the law"?
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2017 10:24:42 GMT -5
Then why were Democrats discussing impeaching Trump before he took the oath? I saw several of them on the gab fests talking about how it could be done, thereby preventing him from even taking the oath of office. Why would it be okay to do it to Trump, but not The Felon? Anticipation, Redleg... anticipation... some are STILL talking about it... Based on what, exactly? "Collusion"? I have yet to have anyone show me the exact statute that prohibits "collusion", and if there were such a statute, The Felon would be the first one in prison. She actually conspired with foreign powers, and paid them, for dirt on Manafort, and tried it with the faked "dossier" on Trump.
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2017 10:25:39 GMT -5
It's not that that the GOP (what a misnomer!) is out to get Mrs. Clinton. It's that they have been out to get her for the last 30 or more years. Whitewater, pork bellies, health care reform to name just a few. She's been a marked person since the late 80s. Little longer than that, Paleman... they've been after her since 1974 when Bill Clinton recommended her... (Hillary Rodham at the time)... to serve on John Doar's committee to impeach Richard Nixon... Hillary wrote up the procedure for Nixon's impeachment... it was ironclad... he would have been convicted and removed from office... he became the ONLY President to resign from the Presidency... a Republican at that... and the Republicans have never forgotten that... Check out "The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton" written by Gene Lyons and Joe Conason... From which she was removed. She was the one that tried to have all of Nixon's Constitutional rights violated, claiming that he had none because he was President.
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Post by palealeman on Nov 20, 2017 10:41:47 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession?
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 20, 2017 11:42:33 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? You mean other than because she appears to have gotten away with felonies that others have served time for? I don’t understand why the alleged “party of the little guy” is so content to have such a person go unpunished. Why the double standard for your leaders?
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Post by redleg on Nov 20, 2017 11:45:17 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? She was given a pass by the DOJ under The Puppet, for treason among other crimes she committed. He ran on a law and order platform, among other things. That means she needs to be prosecuted for her almost limitless crimes, including treason. Same with The Puppet, Holder, Lynch, Comey, and a host of other Party of the KKK criminals.
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Post by winston on Nov 20, 2017 13:55:31 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? You mean other than because she appears to have gotten away with felonies that others have served time for? I don’t understand why the alleged “party of the little guy” is so content to have such a person go unpunished. Why the double standard for your leaders? Where is your proof, you stupid goof.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 20, 2017 18:22:34 GMT -5
Little longer than that, Paleman... they've been after her since 1974 when Bill Clinton recommended her... (Hillary Rodham at the time)... to serve on John Doar's committee to impeach Richard Nixon... Hillary wrote up the procedure for Nixon's impeachment... it was ironclad... he would have been convicted and removed from office... he became the ONLY President to resign from the Presidency... a Republican at that... and the Republicans have never forgotten that... Check out "The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton" written by Gene Lyons and Joe Conason... From which she was removed. She was the one that tried to have all of Nixon's Constitutional rights violated, claiming that he had none because he was President. She was not removed until after the investigation was completed and her services were no longer needed... terminated for any kind of misconduct... they were finished with their work... Nixon was gone...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 20, 2017 18:23:42 GMT -5
ONE word describes your comments, Ranger John... BULL... Clinton hasn't come even close to breaking any law... only in your hate-filled mind... So, treason is not "breaking the law"? Selling influence is not "breaking the law"? Selling classified information is not "breaking the law"? Destroying evidence during an investigation is not "breaking the law"? Accepting bribes to sell national security product is not "breaking the law"? It would be... if she were guilty of any such things... but she was not...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 20, 2017 18:27:07 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? She's just a punching bag, Paleman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 20, 2017 18:30:03 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? She was given a pass by the DOJ under The Puppet, for treason among other crimes she committed. He ran on a law and order platform, among other things. That means she needs to be prosecuted for her almost limitless crimes, including treason. Same with The Puppet, Holder, Lynch, Comey, and a host of other Party of the KKK criminals. Hell, Redleg... let's dig up Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy and try them while we're at it... don't want to miss a single one of them Democrats...
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 20, 2017 18:55:06 GMT -5
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 20, 2017 18:56:35 GMT -5
LOL You should see how much my Worthless Ass has been debunked by the Angry Drunken Dwarf. He's stomped my Crooked Mangina into Mincemeat.
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Post by palealeman on Nov 20, 2017 21:20:33 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? She's just a punching bag, Paleman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat... Actually, aboutwell, the more I think about it, the more I think that the issue is that conservatives have a problem with a strong, independent woman. For instance, the Republicans wanted health care reform -- Nixon actually was the first to call for it -- and by '88 the Republicans had a plan. When Mrs. Clinton started pushing for reform, however, they pushed back -- can't have a woman do this! (And when they finally got the plan they pushed back in the 80s finally passed under President Obama, they remain completely opposed to it. Unfortunately, 8 years later, they still have no idea what they want.) Strong, idependent women. They undermine the idea of a male-dominated and white-male-dominated society. The white supremacists on the right and alt-right can't bear to see their power slip away.
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 20, 2017 22:40:32 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? She's just a punching bag, Paleman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat... Your completely wrong Fatso. Imma the Punching Bag around here and downy Fugly Mommys basement...
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 21, 2017 7:59:40 GMT -5
She's just a punching bag, Paleman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat... Actually, aboutwell, the more I think about it, the more I think that the issue is that conservatives have a problem with a strong, independent woman. For instance, the Republicans wanted health care reform -- Nixon actually was the first to call for it -- and by '88 the Republicans had a plan. When Mrs. Clinton started pushing for reform, however, they pushed back -- can't have a woman do this! (And when they finally got the plan they pushed back in the 80s finally passed under President Obama, they remain completely opposed to it. Unfortunately, 8 years later, they still have no idea what they want.) Strong, idependent women. They undermine the idea of a male-dominated and white-male-dominated society. The white supremacists on the right and alt-right can't bear to see their power slip away. Thats mainly because you're desperately hoping to come up with an excuse for her loss, and refuse to come to terms with the trail of scandal and slime she left behind her.
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Post by redleg on Nov 21, 2017 9:12:40 GMT -5
From which she was removed. She was the one that tried to have all of Nixon's Constitutional rights violated, claiming that he had none because he was President. She was not removed until after the investigation was completed and her services were no longer needed... terminated for any kind of misconduct... they were finished with their work... Nixon was gone... No she wasn't fired, and I didn't say she was. She was, however, removed with prejudice, and Zeitman said he would have fired her if he had the authority. “when the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation.” The article quoted Zeifman as saying: “She was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”… www.cato.org/blog/was-hillary-clinton-fired-nixon-impeachment-inquiry
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Post by redleg on Nov 21, 2017 9:13:50 GMT -5
So, treason is not "breaking the law"? Selling influence is not "breaking the law"? Selling classified information is not "breaking the law"? Destroying evidence during an investigation is not "breaking the law"? Accepting bribes to sell national security product is not "breaking the law"? It would be... if she were guilty of any such things... but she was not... Yes, she is, according to the former head of the FBI. He was told that she would never be prosecuted, by Lynch, who was told by The Puppet, but she is guilty.
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Post by redleg on Nov 21, 2017 9:15:31 GMT -5
But the wider question is, why is Trump still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Going a little wider, why is the GOP still so obsessed with Hillary Clinton? She's not in office or in any government office any longer. I doubt that she'll ever run for anything again. I also doubt that she'd be appointed to any governmental position other than something like a short-term task force or Commission. So why the continued obsession? She's just a punching bag, Paleman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat... And then there are those of us that just don't like criminals. She's not only a criminal, but she's a hateful harridan, disloyal to anyone but herself, a liar, an accessory to murder, and an all around psychopath. And those are her best qualities.
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Post by redleg on Nov 21, 2017 9:18:58 GMT -5
She was given a pass by the DOJ under The Puppet, for treason among other crimes she committed. He ran on a law and order platform, among other things. That means she needs to be prosecuted for her almost limitless crimes, including treason. Same with The Puppet, Holder, Lynch, Comey, and a host of other Party of the KKK criminals. Hell, Redleg... let's dig up Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy and try them while we're at it... don't want to miss a single one of them Democrats... Both also Democrats, and both also protected by the swamp. Byrd was a KKK recruiter, and Kennedy decided to kill a woman because she was inconvenient. And the Party of the KKK closed ranks and made sure that none of that ever affected their careers, because they voted "correctly". Notice that the Pubs that have been accused of sexual harassment have resigned, while the Party of the KKK, with photographic proof of Franken's antics, won't even discuss throwing him out. With Menedez facing felony prosecution, their argument was over whether to fire him if he was convicted, or keeping him in his seat while he was in prison. The Party of the KKK is also the party of corruption, as long as the corruption doesn't affect their agenda.
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Post by redleg on Nov 21, 2017 9:23:54 GMT -5
She's just a punching bag, Paleman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat... Actually, aboutwell, the more I think about it, the more I think that the issue is that conservatives have a problem with a strong, independent woman. For instance, the Republicans wanted health care reform -- Nixon actually was the first to call for it -- and by '88 the Republicans had a plan. When Mrs. Clinton started pushing for reform, however, they pushed back -- can't have a woman do this! (And when they finally got the plan they pushed back in the 80s finally passed under President Obama, they remain completely opposed to it. Unfortunately, 8 years later, they still have no idea what they want.) Strong, idependent women. They undermine the idea of a male-dominated and white-male-dominated society. The white supremacists on the right and alt-right can't bear to see their power slip away. Only if you consider treason, bribery, murder, and selling influence to be marks of a "strong, independent woman", who was so "independent" that she would be turning tricks or heisting beer at the local 7/11 if she hadn't married a con man that was charismatic enough to make it to the Presidency. Your "strong, independent women" are the same ones that react to disappointment by putting a stupid looking rabbit ear hat on, and screaming at the sky. Who accept sexual harassment from men as long as it further's their careers. Who make it to the Senate, then steal everything they can find, and call "racism' on anyone that notices their corruption. Yeah, real "strong, independent women" you've got there.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 21, 2017 12:21:20 GMT -5
It is more than a little ridiculous watching members of the party of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, and Bob Menendez pretending they support strong women.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 21, 2017 13:38:46 GMT -5
She's just a punching bag, Palealeman... (no pun intended)... lot of folks hate her because they hated Bill... some hate her because she helped facilitate Nixon's departure... and she makes an excellent diversion for Trump when he feels the heat... Actually, aboutwell, the more I think about it, the more I think that the issue is that conservatives have a problem with a strong, independent woman. For instance, the Republicans wanted health care reform -- Nixon actually was the first to call for it -- and by '88 the Republicans had a plan. When Mrs. Clinton started pushing for reform, however, they pushed back -- can't have a woman do this! (And when they finally got the plan they pushed back in the 80s finally passed under President Obama, they remain completely opposed to it. Unfortunately, 8 years later, they still have no idea what they want.) Strong, dependent women. They undermine the idea of a male-dominated and white-male-dominated society. The white supremacists on the right and alt-right can't bear to see their power slip away. I don't disagree with you at all, Palealeman... but don't forget their dislike for strong independent Blacks...
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