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Post by aboutwell on Nov 21, 2017 13:40:17 GMT -5
It is more than a little ridiculous watching members of the party of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, and Bob Menendez pretending they support strong women. I love strong women... that's one reason I like Hillary Clinton...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 21, 2017 13:43:53 GMT -5
It would be... if she were guilty of any such things... but she was not... Yes, she is, according to the former head of the FBI. He was told that she would never be prosecuted, by Lynch, who was told by The Puppet, but she is guilty. And you literally have zero proof to any of those accusations... Next...
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 21, 2017 13:48:31 GMT -5
LOL Wait until Kamala Harris becomes the next US President. The Alt-Right's heads will explode! That's the double whammy for them.
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 21, 2017 13:54:03 GMT -5
LOL Uganda Kamala Harris is my Hero. I hope she doesn't ruin my life like Shrilary Cankles did.
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 21, 2017 13:58:02 GMT -5
LOL Wait until Kamala Harris becomes the next US President. The Alt-Right's heads will explode! That's the double whammy for them. Maybe a Harris/O'Malley ticket...
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 21, 2017 14:00:25 GMT -5
LOL Wait until Kamala Harris becomes the next US President. The Alt-Right's heads will explode! That's the double whammy for them. Maybe a Harris/O'Malley ticket... Sounds good VoicesInMyHead. If your Stupid Ass likes it it's guaranteed to lose.
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 10:10:02 GMT -5
Actually, aboutwell, the more I think about it, the more I think that the issue is that conservatives have a problem with a strong, independent woman. For instance, the Republicans wanted health care reform -- Nixon actually was the first to call for it -- and by '88 the Republicans had a plan. When Mrs. Clinton started pushing for reform, however, they pushed back -- can't have a woman do this! (And when they finally got the plan they pushed back in the 80s finally passed under President Obama, they remain completely opposed to it. Unfortunately, 8 years later, they still have no idea what they want.) Strong, dependent women. They undermine the idea of a male-dominated and white-male-dominated society. The white supremacists on the right and alt-right can't bear to see their power slip away. I don't disagree with you at all, Palealeman... but don't forget their dislike for strong independent Blacks... Really? Like Justice Thomas, who your Party of the KKK racists called "Uncle Tom" because he didn't put his chains on like a good little black? Or Ben Carson, who your Party of the KKK racists said wasn't really black, because he's not a drug dealer, pimp, or on welfare? Or Cain, who the Party of the KKK destroyed with paid tramps to accuse him of sexual harassment, then disappeared the second he dropped out of the race?
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 10:11:18 GMT -5
It is more than a little ridiculous watching members of the party of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, and Bob Menendez pretending they support strong women. I love strong women... that's one reason I like Hillary Clinton... So you equate treason, selling of influence, accepting bribes, murder, and lying to the American people indicators of a "strong woman"? Especially since she couldn't even get a job at 7/11 if her husband hadn't provided the coattails for her to ride?
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 10:14:12 GMT -5
Yes, she is, according to the former head of the FBI. He was told that she would never be prosecuted, by Lynch, who was told by The Puppet, but she is guilty. And you literally have zero proof to any of those accusations... Next... So, a special counsel, that can't find the most minute evidence of "collusion" is to be believed that he will do so, but the head of the FBI is lying? Well, he is lying about a lot of things, but his statements to Congress detailed at least 7 felonies, before he said "well, she really didn't mean to commit all those crimes, so we aren't going to prosecute her". Of course, he was told by Lynch, who was told by The Puppet, that no prosecution, not even an indictment, would come out of his "investigation". He wrote his "conclusions" months before the "investigation" was even concluded. It was all a scam to clear her for running for President.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 22, 2017 10:35:00 GMT -5
I don't disagree with you at all, Palealeman... but don't forget their dislike for strong independent Blacks... Really? Like Justice Thomas, who your Party of the KKK racists called "Uncle Tom" because he didn't put his chains on like a good little black? Or Ben Carson, who your Party of the KKK racists said wasn't really black, because he's not a drug dealer, pimp, or on welfare? Or Cain, who the Party of the KKK destroyed with paid tramps to accuse him of sexual harassment, then disappeared the second he dropped out of the race? Thomas was... and still is... their "patsy"... Republicans are good at using Blacks as patsy's for their own political gain...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 22, 2017 10:43:13 GMT -5
And you literally have zero proof to any of those accusations... Next... So, a special counsel, that can't find the most minute evidence of "collusion" is to be believed that he will do so, but the head of the FBI is lying? Well, he is lying about a lot of things, but his statements to Congress detailed at least 7 felonies, before he said "well, she really didn't mean to commit all those crimes, so we aren't going to prosecute her". Of course, he was told by Lynch, who was told by The Puppet, that no prosecution, not even an indictment, would come out of his "investigation". He wrote his "conclusions" months before the "investigation" was even concluded. It was all a scam to clear her for running for President. Mueller's investigation is still ongoing... why don't we wait till it's over before we try to say what he can, or can't, find... and Comey didn't lie... he simply stated that careless errors made by Clinton did not rise to the level of a criminal indictment... heck, the two already indicted by Mueller may be found not guilty... And like I said, you don't have a single shred of proof that anybody told Comey to do, or not do, anything... period... but thank you for your opinion... BTW... you claim Comey paved the way for her to run for President... tell me why then did he kill her chances dead when he reopened the email fiasco 10 days before the election?...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 22, 2017 11:09:53 GMT -5
I love strong women... that's one reason I like Hillary Clinton... So you equate treason, selling of influence, accepting bribes, murder, and lying to the American people indicators of a "strong woman"? Especially since she couldn't even get a job at 7/11 if her husband hadn't provided the coattails for her to ride? Couldn't get a job without Bill, huh?... she was working a six figure job as an attorney in Washington D C before she and Bill were even married... and he was a lowly professor teaching at the University of Arkansas... not many "coattails" on that professor job...
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 22, 2017 12:46:34 GMT -5
The same person will swear up and down Barack Obama never graduated from Harvard and never held a job before he was a Congressman.
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 22, 2017 12:50:32 GMT -5
Shrilary Cankles teamed up with Screech the Weather Monkey to pay off the Ugandan Blutards. That's how crooked she is.
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Post by palealeman on Nov 22, 2017 15:32:14 GMT -5
It is more than a little ridiculous watching members of the party of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, and Bob Menendez pretending they support strong women. And it's even more ridiculous watching the party of Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump use as a defense "I deny it" and "why'd they wait so long" while0 trying to explain their conduct as good old conservative and evangelical values.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2017 18:08:42 GMT -5
It is more than a little ridiculous watching members of the party of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, and Bob Menendez pretending they support strong women. And it's even more ridiculous watching the party of Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump use as a defense "I deny it" and "why'd they wait so long" while0 trying to explain their conduct as good old conservative and evangelical values. Even the accusations against Thomas, had they been true, amounted to nothing more than bad jokes and inappropriate work discussion, and Anita Hill FOLLOWED HIM to a new job. They were obviously garbage. With the reporting on Trump, it’s no longer possible to tell where the lies stop and the truth starts. Maybe the accusations are true, maybe they’re not. We’ll probably never know, because the media has set out to get him, and discarded honesty in the process. Roy Moore needs to go, and I have said as much. Will you say the same for Franken, Menendez and Conyers? No? I didn’t think so.
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Post by bobloblaw on Nov 22, 2017 18:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by palealeman on Nov 22, 2017 19:34:42 GMT -5
And it's even more ridiculous watching the party of Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump use as a defense "I deny it" and "why'd they wait so long" while0 trying to explain their conduct as good old conservative and evangelical values. Even the accusations against Thomas, had they been true, amounted to nothing more than bad jokes and inappropriate work discussion, and Anita Hill FOLLOWED HIM to a new job. They were obviously garbage. With the reporting on Trump, it’s no longer possible to tell where the lies stop and the truth starts. Maybe the accusations are true, maybe they’re not. We’ll probably never know, because the media has set out to get him, and discarded honesty in the process. Roy Moore needs to go, and I have said as much. Will you say the same for Franken, Menendez and Conyers? No? I didn’t think so. Let me start, RJ, by reminding you that I spent over 30 years working in criminal justice. I interviewed and interacted with hundreds and thousands of inmates, people sentenced to lengthy periods of incareration for committing serious felonies. Just about every sexual offender I talked with denied committing a crime. Either it was a consentual act or it never happened. That, to me, is where Thomas, Moore, and Trump are. "Never happened." I say, Bull! I think they're guilty as sin. I think they should be in prison, where we keep our animals in cages. I'll give Franken some credit. He apologized for what he did, which is admission. I plead ignorance about Menendez -- I haven't follow his case at all, but I did just see something about a hung jury. I also don't know much about Conyers except for what I read today and heard yesterday -- some sort of settlement with an intern, but details were sketchy. In most of these cases, it comes down to "he said, she said." When I hear what appear to be accurate details weighed against and I didn't do it, I tend to believe the person giving the details. In the most recent cases, at least, though they've come forward 15 or 40 year later, they appear to have no axe to grind nor financial windfall to gain. To my view, this also adds some credibility. In short, get them all out.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 22, 2017 20:39:01 GMT -5
Even the accusations against Thomas, had they been true, amounted to nothing more than bad jokes and inappropriate work discussion, and Anita Hill FOLLOWED HIM to a new job. They were obviously garbage. With the reporting on Trump, it’s no longer possible to tell where the lies stop and the truth starts. Maybe the accusations are true, maybe they’re not. We’ll probably never know, because the media has set out to get him, and discarded honesty in the process. Roy Moore needs to go, and I have said as much. Will you say the same for Franken, Menendez and Conyers? No? I didn’t think so. Let me start, RJ, by reminding you that I spent over 30 years working in criminal justice. I interviewed and interacted with hundreds and thousands of inmates, people sentenced to lengthy periods of incareration for committing serious felonies. Just about every sexual offender I talked with denied committing a crime. Either it was a consentual act or it never happened. That, to me, is where Thomas, Moore, and Trump are. "Never happened." I say, Bull! I think they're guilty as sin. I think they should be in prison, where we keep our animals in cages. I'll give Franken some credit. He apologized for what he did, which is admission. I plead ignorance about Menendez -- I haven't follow his case at all, but I did just see something about a hung jury. I also don't know much about Conyers except for what I read today and heard yesterday -- some sort of settlement with an intern, but details were sketchy. In most of these cases, it comes down to "he said, she said." When I hear what appear to be accurate details weighed against and I didn't do it, I tend to believe the person giving the details. In the most recent cases, at least, though they've come forward 15 or 40 year later, they appear to have no axe to grind nor financial windfall to gain. To my view, this also adds some credibility. In short, get them all out. If you worked in criminal justice, you would know that rape is simultaneously the most under-reported, AND the most falsely reported crime. Women accuse men of sexual harassment as a way to get back at them for perceived slights, or for revenge. It is exceptionally common in divorce cases, and when women get fired. You worked in corrections, with people who had been convicted. Not with people who had merely been accused, trying to sort out actual abuse from people who are just pissed at each other. There is a HUGE difference. Thomas in particular, was accused of nothing more than making off color jokes. His accuser was apparently so un-offended, she followed him to another job. That you would lump him in with even Franken proves you have NO CLUE what you're talking about. Either that, or you have some sort of problem with intelligent, conservative black men.
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 20:52:08 GMT -5
Really? Like Justice Thomas, who your Party of the KKK racists called "Uncle Tom" because he didn't put his chains on like a good little black? Or Ben Carson, who your Party of the KKK racists said wasn't really black, because he's not a drug dealer, pimp, or on welfare? Or Cain, who the Party of the KKK destroyed with paid tramps to accuse him of sexual harassment, then disappeared the second he dropped out of the race? Thomas was... and still is... their "patsy"... Republicans are good at using Blacks as patsy's for their own political gain... Of course. Having a black Pub is an anathema to the idea that blacks are too stupid to survive without a white master, giving them everything they "need" to eat, their "education", racial quotas in college, and having a white telling them what to think. That's the platform, and the very existence of the Party of the KKK. So any black that votes Pub has to be a "patsy" because all the Dems know they are stupid as a race.
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 20:52:53 GMT -5
So you equate treason, selling of influence, accepting bribes, murder, and lying to the American people indicators of a "strong woman"? Especially since she couldn't even get a job at 7/11 if her husband hadn't provided the coattails for her to ride? Couldn't get a job without Bill, huh?... she was working a six figure job as an attorney in Washington D C before she and Bill were even married... and he was a lowly professor teaching at the University of Arkansas... not many "coattails" on that professor job... Until the Nixon fiasco brought out her criminal side. And his coattails started when he was elected governor.
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 20:54:07 GMT -5
The same person will swear up and down Barack Obama never graduated from Harvard and never held a job before he was a Congressman. What job did he hold? Other than fetching coffee in a legal office? Show me his grades. His papers. His professors. If he was such an outstanding student, why is he spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to hide it all?
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 20:55:48 GMT -5
It is more than a little ridiculous watching members of the party of Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, and Bob Menendez pretending they support strong women. And it's even more ridiculous watching the party of Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump use as a defense "I deny it" and "why'd they wait so long" while0 trying to explain their conduct as good old conservative and evangelical values. So, answer their questions. Why is WaPo having to pay women to "come forward"? Why did the first 4, who were all of legal age at the time, say he did nothing wrong when they went out with him? Why does Allred refuse to release the yearbook, if it's not a forgery?
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 21:00:50 GMT -5
And it's even more ridiculous watching the party of Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, and Donald Trump use as a defense "I deny it" and "why'd they wait so long" while0 trying to explain their conduct as good old conservative and evangelical values. Even the accusations against Thomas, had they been true, amounted to nothing more than bad jokes and inappropriate work discussion, and Anita Hill FOLLOWED HIM to a new job. They were obviously garbage. With the reporting on Trump, it’s no longer possible to tell where the lies stop and the truth starts. Maybe the accusations are true, maybe they’re not. We’ll probably never know, because the media has set out to get him, and discarded honesty in the process. Roy Moore needs to go, and I have said as much. Will you say the same for Franken, Menendez and Conyers? No? I didn’t think so. This is just another scam, exactly the same one they used to get Herman Cain out of the race. They are saying that blacks, Southerners, and especially black Southerners, are all pedophiles, rapists, and serial sexual abusers. They find women willing to take a paycheck to accuse a Pub, any pub, then the women disappear after the damage is done. The entire Weinstein brouhaha is nothing but cover for them to attack Trump. A lot of the accusers of all these Dem pols and Hollywood sleazeballs are paid prostitutes, there only to add "credibility" to their "outrage" over Moore. But, notice, all the Dem pols under attack are disposable. Conyers has been in the House since 1965, Franken is disliked by his fellow Senators as much as by normal people, and if he's thrown out, he will be replaced by another Party of the KKK idiot.
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Post by redleg on Nov 22, 2017 21:05:05 GMT -5
Even the accusations against Thomas, had they been true, amounted to nothing more than bad jokes and inappropriate work discussion, and Anita Hill FOLLOWED HIM to a new job. They were obviously garbage. With the reporting on Trump, it’s no longer possible to tell where the lies stop and the truth starts. Maybe the accusations are true, maybe they’re not. We’ll probably never know, because the media has set out to get him, and discarded honesty in the process. Roy Moore needs to go, and I have said as much. Will you say the same for Franken, Menendez and Conyers? No? I didn’t think so. Let me start, RJ, by reminding you that I spent over 30 years working in criminal justice. I interviewed and interacted with hundreds and thousands of inmates, people sentenced to lengthy periods of incareration for committing serious felonies. Just about every sexual offender I talked with denied committing a crime. Either it was a consentual act or it never happened. That, to me, is where Thomas, Moore, and Trump are. "Never happened." I say, Bull! I think they're guilty as sin. I think they should be in prison, where we keep our animals in cages. I'll give Franken some credit. He apologized for what he did, which is admission. I plead ignorance about Menendez -- I haven't follow his case at all, but I did just see something about a hung jury. I also don't know much about Conyers except for what I read today and heard yesterday -- some sort of settlement with an intern, but details were sketchy. In most of these cases, it comes down to "he said, she said." When I hear what appear to be accurate details weighed against and I didn't do it, I tend to believe the person giving the details. In the most recent cases, at least, though they've come forward 15 or 40 year later, they appear to have no axe to grind nor financial windfall to gain. To my view, this also adds some credibility. In short, get them all out. Of course you do. He's a Democrat, so nothing he does, unless he votes against the Communist agenda, would have you calling for him to 'resign'. There have been no "accurate details", just scurrilous accusations. Nothing concrete, just "he said/she said". Franken didn't "apologize" until he was caught, and photographic evidence was presented. The only one I've heard that actually accuses him of nefarious activity does have an axe to grind. He was the judge in her divorce, and she's in serious financial straits. The offer of money just to accuse Moore might just be too much for her to pass up. She can't take him to court, so she's safe from cross examination, she get's paid, and goes away as soon as he drops out of the race.
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