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Post by microg on Jan 17, 2018 10:48:29 GMT -5
Not going to paste everything all over again, RJ. Takes up too much space. And thereY's not much need to repeat your indefensible comments. You claim that the travel ban is about vetting. We already vet -- sometimes taking up to 2 years to do so. You claim that the travel ban is about keeping terrorists out. And, out of over a quarter of a million immigrants from these "terrorist" countries, we've had, what, 2 or 3 terrorists who have made it in? Not a real bad percentage. Looks like the vetting works pretty well. On the other hand, there's no travel ban on the countries where the 9-11 highjackers came from. If this ban is really about trying to keep terrorists out, why not ban people from Saudi Arabia and Egypt too? And, since you're such a legal scholar, I'm sure you know that there's a 1965 immigration law banning discrimination based on national origin. In other words, Trump's restrictions are illegal. Why should we allow anyone to come here? There is no right to "immigrate" to the US. Period. We can use whatever parameters we want to exclude anyone from anywhere. And the "judge" that "stopped" the ban is one that should be impeached immediately. He either never read the Constitution, or chose to impose his Communist agenda rather that follow the actual law. The President has almost exclusive powers over immigration. Because Americans have compassion for others. Nevertheless, that compassion should be applied domestically first. There are numerous homeless, beggars, drug addicts, and mental ill people walking the streets in Baltimore. It seems counterproductive to invite more outsiders to live here until we can get our own affairs in order.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 17, 2018 20:20:26 GMT -5
You brought up the housing... I didn't...
And BTW... those countries have their Republican enclaves as well...
And we don't import illegal Democrats...
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Post by 3000fps on Jan 18, 2018 1:18:08 GMT -5
You brought up the housing... I didn't... And BTW... those countries have their Republican enclaves as well... And we don't import illegal Democrats... What do you call them democraps in training?
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Post by redleg on Jan 18, 2018 9:42:51 GMT -5
Why should we allow anyone to come here? There is no right to "immigrate" to the US. Period. We can use whatever parameters we want to exclude anyone from anywhere. And the "judge" that "stopped" the ban is one that should be impeached immediately. He either never read the Constitution, or chose to impose his Communist agenda rather that follow the actual law. The President has almost exclusive powers over immigration. Because Americans have compassion for others. Nevertheless, that compassion should be applied domestically first. There are numerous homeless, beggars, drug addicts, and mental ill people walking the streets in Baltimore. It seems counterproductive to invite more outsiders to live here until we can get our own affairs in order. Compassion doesn't lead to cultural and societal suicide. We welcome immigrants that obey the law, and come here legally. There is no reason for us to accept those that simply invade, because they can't get welfare, food stamps or "free" health care at home. Not to mention the entry level jobs that illegals are taking, so our people can't.
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Post by redleg on Jan 18, 2018 9:44:58 GMT -5
You brought up the housing... I didn't... And BTW... those countries have their Republican enclaves as well... And we don't import illegal Democrats... Yes we do. If there was even a suggestion that most illegals would vote Pub, you would see hysteria by the Party of the KKK to close the borders, and round up each and every illegal and send them home. This argument has nothing at all to do with humanitarianism, it's all about changing the electorate to a serf mindset, because the Party of the KKK can't win major elections any more with American voters. They have been exposed as the Communist dictators they have always been.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 18, 2018 13:26:59 GMT -5
Thank you for your opinion, Redleg... same old same old stuff...
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Post by redleg on Jan 19, 2018 9:50:16 GMT -5
Thank you for your opinion, Redleg... same old same old stuff... Yes, it's called reality. You should try it sometime. The Party of the KKK even admitted that the only reason they want unlimited alien invasion is because they can't win elections any more with Americans voting. They have to have the illiterate, conditioned to dictatorship coming in to vote Dem.
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 19, 2018 12:34:00 GMT -5
Every place has "stuffholes"... your state and county... my state and county... it is very un-presidential for ANY U.S. President to use this kind of language when referring to people from ANY other location other than his... we what we ALL KNOW is where HE comes from... surrounded by gold fittings and trim, don't we?... not everyone can... or even wants to... live in such surroundings... Even the UN "World Toilet Day" says that 60% of the world's population don't have operational toilets. That means that Trump was literally correct. Race has nothing to do with it except for the racist Left that declares that sh*thole countries are only black or hispanic. Here are a few interesting statistics, straight from the U.N.: - Around 60% of the global population – 4.5 billion people – have either no toilet at home or one that doesn't safely manage excreta. -862 million people worldwide still practi[c]e open defecation. - 1.8 billion people use an unimproved source of drinking water with no protection against contamination from [feces]. - Globally, 80% of the wastewater generated by society flows back into the ecosystem without being treated or reused. - Only 39% of the global population (2.9 billion people) use a safely[] managed sanitation service [–] that is, excreta safely disposed of in situ or treated off-site. - Combined with safe water and good hygiene, improved sanitation could prevent around 842,000 deaths each year. In aboutwell's defense, I'm sure the UN doesn't consider anything but low flow toilets "safe" because... liberalism.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 19, 2018 22:54:37 GMT -5
Trump didn't mean "sh!thole" literally, RJ... he meant it racially... now tell us what percentage of those countries are a little darker skinned than we Whites are... Norway too...
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Post by Ranger John on Jan 20, 2018 12:16:51 GMT -5
Trump didn't mean "sh!thole" literally, RJ... he meant it racially... now tell us what percentage of those countries are a little darker skinned than we Whites are... Norway too... I wish I could say I was surprised that you attribute to racism that which is much more obviously attributable to corruption. But some people are just so effing racist, literally race is all they ever think about.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 20, 2018 23:25:16 GMT -5
More obvious to you maybe, R J... but that doesn't make it so... and many more people agree with me... than you...
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Post by redleg on Jan 22, 2018 10:31:34 GMT -5
Trump didn't mean "sh!thole" literally, RJ... he meant it racially... now tell us what percentage of those countries are a little darker skinned than we Whites are... Norway too... No, if he said it, which is extremely doubtful since the only "witness" is a Democrat, he meant it in reality. If they aren't sh*tholes, why are all their people trying to come here? Why are the Party of the KKK racists fighting so hard to keep them from going back?
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Post by redleg on Jan 22, 2018 10:32:43 GMT -5
More obvious to you maybe, R J... but that doesn't make it so... and many more people agree with me... than you... Only those that can't think, or are so indoctrinated in the Communist Manifesto that they refuse to think. Actual Americans know better.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 22, 2018 12:30:50 GMT -5
Trump didn't mean "sh!thole" literally, RJ... he meant it racially... now tell us what percentage of those countries are a little darker skinned than we Whites are... Norway too... No, if he said it, which is extremely doubtful since the only "witness" is a Democrat, he meant it in reality. If they aren't sh*tholes, why are all their people trying to come here? Why are the Party of the KKK racists fighting so hard to keep them from going back? They aren't all trying to come here, Redleg... many, in fact, most... are content to stay right where they are... many people like to go to other countries for various reasons... some are very attractive... like New Zealand... but try moving there... I've looked into it myself...
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Post by 3000fps on Jan 22, 2018 18:56:39 GMT -5
No, if he said it, which is extremely doubtful since the only "witness" is a Democrat, he meant it in reality. If they aren't sh*tholes, why are all their people trying to come here? Why are the Party of the KKK racists fighting so hard to keep them from going back? They aren't all trying to come here, Redleg... many, in fact, most... are content to stay right where they are... many people like to go to other countries for various reasons... some are very attractive... like New Zealand... but try moving there... I've looked into it myself... An estimated 5,000 Haitians have been deported from the United States since 1996, according to an October 2008 report by the Haiti-based Ecumenical Center for Human Rights (CEDH).
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Post by palealeman on Jan 22, 2018 20:18:51 GMT -5
Thank you for your opinion, Redleg... same old same old stuff... Yep, same old tired stuff, same old stuff completely divorced from reality. What we expect.
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Post by redleg on Jan 23, 2018 9:52:26 GMT -5
No, if he said it, which is extremely doubtful since the only "witness" is a Democrat, he meant it in reality. If they aren't sh*tholes, why are all their people trying to come here? Why are the Party of the KKK racists fighting so hard to keep them from going back? They aren't all trying to come here, Redleg... many, in fact, most... are content to stay right where they are... many people like to go to other countries for various reasons... some are very attractive... like New Zealand... but try moving there... I've looked into it myself... Of course, the fact that they earn about $3.00 a month in most of those countries, and can't afford to pay attention, much less transport to here is irrelevant, right? They are all content to live in squalor, die from easily treated diseases, and be controlled by corrupt governments. I would love to visit New Zealand, never got the chance. However, there is no country in the world where you can simply move there, and expect all the rights and privileges of citizenship, without going through the process. Except the US. And that's because the Party of the KKK has realized that they are on the losing end of reality unless they can import millions of illegal Democrats. From sh*tholes that have accustomed them to deprivation, Socialist rule, and permanent poverty.
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Post by redleg on Jan 23, 2018 9:53:27 GMT -5
Thank you for your opinion, Redleg... same old same old stuff... Yep, same old tired stuff, same old stuff completely divorced from reality. What we expect. You have never met reality, and wouldn't recognize it if you did. You are a Democrat, a mindless robot, doing whatever your betters tell you to do, and "thinking" whatever your betters tell you to think.
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Post by aboutwell on Jan 23, 2018 10:42:42 GMT -5
They aren't all trying to come here, Redleg... many, in fact, most... are content to stay right where they are... many people like to go to other countries for various reasons... some are very attractive... like New Zealand... but try moving there... I've looked into it myself... Of course, the fact that they earn about $3.00 a month in most of those countries, and can't afford to pay attention, much less transport to here is irrelevant, right? They are all content to live in squalor, die from easily treated diseases, and be controlled by corrupt governments. I would love to visit New Zealand, never got the chance. However, there is no country in the world where you can simply move there, and expect all the rights and privileges of citizenship, without going through the process. Except the US. And that's because the Party of the KKK has realized that they are on the losing end of reality unless they can import millions of illegal Democrats. From sh*tholes that have accustomed them to deprivation, Socialist rule, and permanent poverty. Yep... for the most part, it's home and they don't want to leave... even with better places to go... I can identify that being here in Mississippi...
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Post by redleg on Jan 24, 2018 9:58:32 GMT -5
Of course, the fact that they earn about $3.00 a month in most of those countries, and can't afford to pay attention, much less transport to here is irrelevant, right? They are all content to live in squalor, die from easily treated diseases, and be controlled by corrupt governments. I would love to visit New Zealand, never got the chance. However, there is no country in the world where you can simply move there, and expect all the rights and privileges of citizenship, without going through the process. Except the US. And that's because the Party of the KKK has realized that they are on the losing end of reality unless they can import millions of illegal Democrats. From sh*tholes that have accustomed them to deprivation, Socialist rule, and permanent poverty. Yep... for the most part, it's home and they don't want to leave... even with better places to go... I can identify that being here in Mississippi... MS is utopia compared to many of those places. Given the chance, nearly every one of those countries would empty out and the people would come here. That's why we have to have a realistic immigration policy, and stop allowing criminals, druggies, and terrorists to come in, along with those that just want the welfare, "free" education, and "free" health care. There is no right to come here, and unless you follow the procedures, you should be rounded up and sent home. That's far more compassionate that other countries do, like Mexico. Try invading there illegally.
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