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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 9:37:58 GMT -5
Really? Who from the Pub side has attempted to 'negotiate' a deal with a foreign government while a private citizen? That has been the sole province of the Party of the KKK since Trump was elected. It's time he started revoking passports while they are in a foreign country, and refusing to allow them back in. Kerry was not attempting to negotiate any deal... the deal had been made long ago... he was discussing with those cosigners of the original deal about keeping what they had already negotiated... without the U.S... his input was likely requested by the parties as someone most familiar with the deal... and he was... Kerry had no business being there for any reason. He was trying to subvert the government of the US, and strike his own deal. He is a traitor. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 9:44:10 GMT -5
Neither do illegal aliens. So, does that mean we can start simply killing them when they become inconvenient? Felons also have surrendered their Constitutional rights, so can we simply kill them as well? How about Muslims, especially those that don't reside here? And yes, homosexuality is a mental illness. It was declared such until about 15 years ago, when the Leftists took over the psychiatric profession, and made sure that it was removed from the book. You can't define it any other way. Not seriously. Individuals who have been born have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... (whether legal residents or not)... they have certain limited rights under the U.S. Constitution... the unborn do not have those same rights... the unborn should have some limited rights to good healthcare... but Trump is trying to limit even that... As for homosexuality... it is a mental abomination... (meaning out of the ordinary... not normal)... not a mental disorder... a mental order... people are born that way... it is not a chosen lifestyle... (of course, like anything else, it can be)... I don't recall when I started wanting a girlfriend rather than a boy friend... do you?... So, you are saying that the US Constitution covers everyone in the world? Or just those you decide it does? Yes, the "unborn" do have those same rights. They are also human beings, just like illegal aliens. What you claim is that we can kill them because they aren't 'yet' legal residents, so why shouldn't we extend your argument to illegal aliens? They are also not "yet" legal residents, so why do they have rights that actual citizens (unborn) aren't given? Why can't we simply kill them like the Left insists is a "right" for them to kill the unborn? Trump is not "trying to limit" health care. Murder is not health care. That's what he's trying to limit. The murder of unborn American citizens because they are 'inconvenient" to their mother. It is a mental disorder. Did kids with Down's Syndrome "choose" to be that way? If so, when? Just because one is born with it doesn't mean it's not a mental disorder. Psychopaths are also "born that way", so are most of those with other personality disorders. That doesn't mean it's not a mental disorder. If a child is born with a cleft palate, does that mean it's not a physical disorder? |
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Post by Ranger John on May 21, 2018 9:45:24 GMT -5
Thanks, Redleg... they went with what they had at the time... corrected it when the information was corrected... nice to know that some folks can do that... Trump doesn't seem to have that ability... But thanks again... twice for CNN... over 2,000 for Trump... and not a single retraction from him... "Going with what you have at the time" is a recipe for disaster. Because they didn't bother to verify anything, just ran with it, they came out looking like a laughing stock. Their credibility is nonexistent except with the NeverTrumpers, who will believe anything as long as it makes Trump look bad. The entire "investigation" is collapsing from it's own lack of credibility, because they "went with what they had at the time". It looks more and more like any indictments coming out of the "investigation" will be against the investigators, and the operators, not anyone in the Trump campaign. They have destroyed any chance they ever had of prevailing.As for Trump, nearly all the "lies" he's been accused of have turned out to be the truth. Of course, if all you listen to is CNN or MSNBC, or all you read is the NYT, you wouldn't know any of that. This is another truth problem the Democrats have. At the center of their case is an accusation that the Russians hacked the DNC. The only evidence they have of this is the word of a contractor they hired. This is unlikely to be admissible in court. It certainly doesn't amount to any sort of reliable evidence. They had the opportunity to turn their servers over to the FBI'S computer forensics team, and refused. What this means, is they can't even prove the Russians hacked the DNC, let alone that Trump was in anyway complicit in said hack. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 9:45:58 GMT -5
He was part of the transition team. Unlike The Puppet, who sent "envoys" to Communist countries while he was still a candidate, transition teams are designed, and intended to contact those in other countries that they will be dealing with. Flynn... and other members of Trump's team... met or corresponded with Russians long before a transition team was even assembled... which was before the election... There is no law against "corresponding with" citizens of other countries. If there were, why isn't The Felon being investigated? There is absolute proof that she not only "corresponded with", but paid foreign agents to make up dirt on Trump, because she couldn't beat him on ideas. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 9:48:16 GMT -5
I don't know that anyone has suggested "going along with the delusion"... more like accepting what other people choose to be... because, like you said, you don't need to try to tell other people what they should be... look... or act... I don't like such people, but I can accept the fact that "they" want to be that way... not my business... just don't ask or expect me to interact with them in any way or manner... I just shake my head and leave 'em alone... and expect them to do the same with me... I probably look weird to them... There is a difference between accepting other people - which everyone ought to do within reason - and "accepting what other people choose to be." And it's an important one. Someone with a y-chromosome simply can not choose to be a woman. A white person can't choose to be black or Native American. This sort of nonsense leads to male athletes competing with female athletes, and it often leads to serious medical and legal consequences. As far as Sprague, Cristerna, and Avner go, I am happy to accept them as people. Where I draw the line is accepting them as a lizard, demon or cat. They are the ones that refuse to allow you to just ignore what they want to be, let them alone and go your own way. They are using the courts to force, not only acceptance, but 'celebration' of their dementias. Just ask the photographer in NM, or the bakers in CO or WA. They have had their lives, and their businesses destroyed because they didn't want to go along with the delusion of some mental defective. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 9:50:35 GMT -5
"Going with what you have at the time" is a recipe for disaster. Because they didn't bother to verify anything, just ran with it, they came out looking like a laughing stock. Their credibility is nonexistent except with the NeverTrumpers, who will believe anything as long as it makes Trump look bad. The entire "investigation" is collapsing from it's own lack of credibility, because they "went with what they had at the time". It looks more and more like any indictments coming out of the "investigation" will be against the investigators, and the operators, not anyone in the Trump campaign. They have destroyed any chance they ever had of prevailing.As for Trump, nearly all the "lies" he's been accused of have turned out to be the truth. Of course, if all you listen to is CNN or MSNBC, or all you read is the NYT, you wouldn't know any of that. This is another truth problem the Democrats have. At the center of their case is an accusation that the Russians hacked the DNC. The only evidence they have of this is the word of a contractor they hired. This is unlikely to be admissible in court. It certainly doesn't amount to any sort of reliable evidence. They had the opportunity to turn their servers over to the FBI'S computer forensics team, and refused. What this means, is they can't even prove the Russians hacked the DNC, let alone that Trump was in anyway complicit in said hack. The evidence of the "hack" is pointing more and more to it being an inside operation. I personally think that the kid that was killed was assassinated because he was part of the inside operation. Why didn't the FBI simply take the server, since it was evidence in an alleged crime? That's what they did to Trump's lawyer. |
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Post by Ranger John on May 21, 2018 10:07:04 GMT -5
This is another truth problem the Democrats have. At the center of their case is an accusation that the Russians hacked the DNC. The only evidence they have of this is the word of a contractor they hired. This is unlikely to be admissible in court. It certainly doesn't amount to any sort of reliable evidence. They had the opportunity to turn their servers over to the FBI'S computer forensics team, and refused. What this means, is they can't even prove the Russians hacked the DNC, let alone that Trump was in anyway complicit in said hack. The evidence of the "hack" is pointing more and more to it being an inside operation. I personally think that the kid that was killed was assassinated because he was part of the inside operation. Why didn't the FBI simply take the server, since it was evidence in an alleged crime? That's what they did to Trump's lawyer. I can understand the DNC not wanting to turn over their servers in the middle of an election, just because they were in the middle of an election. If they told the FBI they weren't interested in pursuing things criminally, the FBI is left with the question: did a crime occur, or is this just a political stunt? Though this does create the impression that either a) the Russian hacking story is a complete fabrication or b) there was other criminality on that server the DNC didn't want the FBI to see. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 10:33:35 GMT -5
The evidence of the "hack" is pointing more and more to it being an inside operation. I personally think that the kid that was killed was assassinated because he was part of the inside operation. Why didn't the FBI simply take the server, since it was evidence in an alleged crime? That's what they did to Trump's lawyer. I can understand the DNC not wanting to turn over their servers in the middle of an election, just because they were in the middle of an election. If they told the FBI they weren't interested in pursuing things criminally, the FBI is left with the question: did a crime occur, or is this just a political stunt? Though this does create the impression that either a) the Russian hacking story is a complete fabrication or b) there was other criminality on that server the DNC didn't want the FBI to see. It was reported to the FBI as a "hack". That's a crime. The FBI, if they were serious about what they claim, would have immediately confiscated the server as evidence in that alleged crime. Which is why they didn't confiscate The Felon's server immediately. They had no interest in actually investigating her crimes, they were only interested in exonerating her. Same with the DNC. They didn't want people to find out that the DNC was a victim of their own corruption, and the FBI might have found out that they commissioned murder to protect themselves. |
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Post by aboutwell on May 21, 2018 11:26:06 GMT -5
Thanks, Redleg... they went with what they had at the time... corrected it when the information was corrected... nice to know that some folks can do that... Trump doesn't seem to have that ability... But thanks again... twice for CNN... over 2,000 for Trump... and not a single retraction from him... "Going with what you have at the time" is a recipe for disaster. Because they didn't bother to verify anything, just ran with it, they came out looking like a laughing stock. Their credibility is nonexistent except with the NeverTrumpers, who will believe anything as long as it makes Trump look bad. The entire "investigation" is collapsing from it's own lack of credibility, because they "went with what they had at the time". It looks more and more like any indictments coming out of the "investigation" will be against the investigators, and the operators, not anyone in the Trump campaign. They have destroyed any chance they ever had of prevailing. As for Trump, nearly all the "lies" he's been accused of have turned out to be the truth. Of course, if all you listen to is CNN or MSNBC, or all you read is the NYT, you wouldn't know any of that. You had to go back a year to find just two, Redleg... and those were "corrections" when they had reported what they had at the time... (not unusual when news is just coming out... lot of differing stories)... you don't have to go back even a week to find where Fox News was lying... not just wrong, but lying... and Trump, who lied at least 11 times just this past weekend... at least CNN does correct their errors openly... Trump and Fox News can't even admit it when they''re wrong... much less correct themselves... |
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Post by aboutwell on May 21, 2018 11:44:43 GMT -5
Kerry was not acting under anyone's "authority"... he was acting as a private citizen... Flynn's visits with the Russians were made prior to the election and inauguration... when Trump didn't even have a Cabinet... And no, I don't recall Kerry trying to surrender the U.S. to NV.... but don't forget, we did lose that war... Exactly. And that's a crime. Remember, Flynn was originally accused of violating the Logan Act, because he contacted Russians in the day to day operation of his job at the time. Flynn's visits to the Russians were NOT prior to the election. Transition happens prior to inauguration. Every time there is a new President. I notice that you have no problem with The Puppet sending "envoys" to foreign governments prior to his election. Or to his using tax dollars to influence the elections in Israel or France. We lost that war because the Party of the KKK wanted us to lose that war. And Flynn was part of his Cabinet. It was his job to meet with people from other countries that were his counterparts. Notice that no one complained when The Puppet's Cabinet picks did exactly the same thing. This entire witch hunt is nothing more than a quiet coup, designed to annul the legal election of the President. Everyone involved should be arrested and charged with sedition. americanpatriotsagainstkerry.wordpress.com/john-kerry-meeting-north-vietnamese-in-paris/www.wnd.com/2004/10/26929/www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20040421205043310Kerry has a history of sedition and treason. In his plea agreement, Flynn admitted he lied to FBI agents about two discussions he had with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, in December 2016 when Flynn was still a private citizen and before Trump took office... and Flynn was not a member of the Cabinet until he was confirmed by the Senate in January... the EC in each state cast their votes in December and the election was not officially complete until January 6, 2017... And BTW... please remind me what I said about having "no problem with The Puppet sending 'envoys' to foreign governments prior to his election'... (I didn't know he did)... or to his using tax dollars to influence the elections in Israel or France"... (I don't know that he did that either)... I don't recall saying anything about either... Flynn, as a private citizen, was attempting to "negotiate" future foreign policy in behalf of Trump... John Kerry, as a private citizen, wasn't trying to negotiate any foreign policy... especially for Trump... since Trump doesn't have a foreign policy with regard to Iran... |
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Post by aboutwell on May 21, 2018 11:47:31 GMT -5
Kerry was not attempting to negotiate any deal... the deal had been made long ago... he was discussing with those cosigners of the original deal about keeping what they had already negotiated... without the U.S... his input was likely requested by the parties as someone most familiar with the deal... and he was... Kerry had no business being there for any reason. He was trying to subvert the government of the US, and strike his own deal. He is a traitor. No, he was there because he had helped negotiate the former deal with regard to Iran and to be sure there was no misunderstanding about his role in those negotiations... as THEY planned to go forward with the deal without the U.S... |
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Post by Ranger John on May 21, 2018 11:50:38 GMT -5
I can understand the DNC not wanting to turn over their servers in the middle of an election, just because they were in the middle of an election. If they told the FBI they weren't interested in pursuing things criminally, the FBI is left with the question: did a crime occur, or is this just a political stunt? Though this does create the impression that either a) the Russian hacking story is a complete fabrication or b) there was other criminality on that server the DNC didn't want the FBI to see. It was reported to the FBI as a "hack". That's a crime. The FBI, if they were serious about what they claim, would have immediately confiscated the server as evidence in that alleged crime. Which is why they didn't confiscate The Felon's server immediately. They had no interest in actually investigating her crimes, they were only interested in exonerating her. Same with the DNC. They didn't want people to find out that the DNC was a victim of their own corruption, and the FBI might have found out that they commissioned murder to protect themselves. Not necessarily. As noted, they could conclude it was just a political stunt in an election year. What the FBI should have told the DNC is they do not have the evidence they need to prosecute a case without the servers (because they don't). At that point, the DNC can either turn over the server, or admit it was all just a stunt and walk away. In any event, the Mueller witch hunt should never have got going without that server. |
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Post by aboutwell on May 21, 2018 12:05:34 GMT -5
Individuals who have been born have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... (whether legal residents or not)... they have certain limited rights under the U.S. Constitution... the unborn do not have those same rights... the unborn should have some limited rights to good healthcare... but Trump is trying to limit even that... As for homosexuality... it is a mental abomination... (meaning out of the ordinary... not normal)... not a mental disorder... a mental order... people are born that way... it is not a chosen lifestyle... (of course, like anything else, it can be)... I don't recall when I started wanting a girlfriend rather than a boy friend... do you?... [So, you are saying that the US Constitution covers everyone in the world? Or just those you decide it does? ] Actually, everyone who comes to the U.S. is covered in some way by the U.S. Constitution... I don't make that choice... [Yes, the "unborn" do have those same rights. They are also human beings, just like illegal aliens. What you claim is that we can kill them because they aren't 'yet' legal residents, so why shouldn't we extend your argument to illegal aliens? They are also not "yet" legal residents, so why do they have rights that actual citizens (unborn) aren't given? Why can't we simply kill them like the Left insists is a "right" for them to kill the unborn? ] The unborn are NOT citizens until they are actually born and that is when they are fully entitled to all the rights and privileges of U.S. citizenship... I said nothing about being a legal "resident"... and actually, the SCOTUS HAS given the right to the mother to kill her unborn child... that's what Roe v Wade was all about... I don't like it... nor do I agree with it... but that IS the law... [Trump is not "trying to limit" health care. Murder is not health care. That's what he's trying to limit. The murder of unborn American citizens because they are 'inconvenient" to their mother.] Yes, Trump IS trying to limit unborn childrens healthcare when he tries to defund places like Planned Parenthood who deals with the haealthcare and well being of the unborn baby and the mother... [It is a mental disorder. Did kids with Down's Syndrome "choose" to be that way? If so, when? Just because one is born with it doesn't mean it's not a mental disorder. Psychopaths are also "born that way", so are most of those with other personality disorders. That doesn't mean it's not a mental disorder. If a child is born with a cleft palate, does that mean it's not a physical disorder? ] I referred to it as a mental abomination... which means it is different than what is normal... not necessarily a disorder... Down's Syndrome IS a disorder... but I don't know that it's a "mental disorder"... but it sure is a physical disorder of some sort... |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 22:28:22 GMT -5
"Going with what you have at the time" is a recipe for disaster. Because they didn't bother to verify anything, just ran with it, they came out looking like a laughing stock. Their credibility is nonexistent except with the NeverTrumpers, who will believe anything as long as it makes Trump look bad. The entire "investigation" is collapsing from it's own lack of credibility, because they "went with what they had at the time". It looks more and more like any indictments coming out of the "investigation" will be against the investigators, and the operators, not anyone in the Trump campaign. They have destroyed any chance they ever had of prevailing. As for Trump, nearly all the "lies" he's been accused of have turned out to be the truth. Of course, if all you listen to is CNN or MSNBC, or all you read is the NYT, you wouldn't know any of that. You had to go back a year to find just two, Redleg... and those were "corrections" when they had reported what they had at the time... (not unusual when news is just coming out... lot of differing stories)... you don't have to go back even a week to find where Fox News was lying... not just wrong, but lying... and Trump, who lied at least 11 times just this past weekend... at least CNN does correct their errors openly... Trump and Fox News can't even admit it when they''re wrong... much less correct themselves... Yes, retractions. They lied. Because they were so hopped up, thinking they "had Trump now", they didn't bother to check sources, or even edit. They also continually lie about what he says. Like when he called MS 13 animals, and CNN and the rest of the LR media screamed he was calling all illegals animals. And now, when he's calling for an investigation of the DOJ for spying on him, they are hysterical that he's "infringing on the independence of the DOJ". When they were illegally spying, and illegally wiretapping, and illegally 'investigating' him. Fox isn't lying, they are just reporting the news that the LR media refuses to report. Like Trump's accomplishments. If they recognize them at all, they give them about 4 seconds, then are back to porn queens, and 'collusion'. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 22:48:13 GMT -5
Exactly. And that's a crime. Remember, Flynn was originally accused of violating the Logan Act, because he contacted Russians in the day to day operation of his job at the time. Flynn's visits to the Russians were NOT prior to the election. Transition happens prior to inauguration. Every time there is a new President. I notice that you have no problem with The Puppet sending "envoys" to foreign governments prior to his election. Or to his using tax dollars to influence the elections in Israel or France. We lost that war because the Party of the KKK wanted us to lose that war. And Flynn was part of his Cabinet. It was his job to meet with people from other countries that were his counterparts. Notice that no one complained when The Puppet's Cabinet picks did exactly the same thing. This entire witch hunt is nothing more than a quiet coup, designed to annul the legal election of the President. Everyone involved should be arrested and charged with sedition. americanpatriotsagainstkerry.wordpress.com/john-kerry-meeting-north-vietnamese-in-paris/www.wnd.com/2004/10/26929/www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20040421205043310Kerry has a history of sedition and treason. In his plea agreement, Flynn admitted he lied to FBI agents about two discussions he had with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, in December 2016 when Flynn was still a private citizen and before Trump took office... and Flynn was not a member of the Cabinet until he was confirmed by the Senate in January... the EC in each state cast their votes in December and the election was not officially complete until January 6, 2017... And BTW... please remind me what I said about having "no problem with The Puppet sending 'envoys' to foreign governments prior to his election'... (I didn't know he did)... or to his using tax dollars to influence the elections in Israel or France"... (I don't know that he did that either)... I don't recall saying anything about either... Flynn, as a private citizen, was attempting to "negotiate" future foreign policy in behalf of Trump... John Kerry, as a private citizen, wasn't trying to negotiate any foreign policy... especially for Trump... since Trump doesn't have a foreign policy with regard to Iran... Flynn 'admitted' to lying because he was bankrupted by Mueller, just as Mueller intended, and Mueller was threatening to prosecute Flynn's son on a bogus charge. Flynn didn't have the money to fight him. Even the FBI agents, one of whom is a member of the coup, said he didn't lie to them. Mueller is withholding exculpatory evidence, making up "evidence", lying to Congress, and committing extortion. He has nothing at all on anyone he's "charged", he's trying to bankrupt them to force them to make up something damning about Trump. He's not investigating "collusion", or he would have already charged The Felon, except that "collusion" is not against the law. He has no crime to investigate, and I hope Trump forces him to pay back every penny he's wasted on this witch hunt. Flynn wasn't a "private citizen", he was a member of the President elect's transition team. It was his job to connect with his counterparts in other governments, including Russia. Kerry, on the other hand, has no authority, no reason, and no legal standing to meet with any foreign governmental entity. He's doing his best to undercut Trump's policies, and I wish Trump would simply revoke his passport while he's in Iran, and leave him there, since he's so enamored of Muslim "hospitality". As for The Puppet, www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92705108thehill.com/policy/international/236565-netanyahu-pollster-obama-role-in-election-larger-than-reportedwww.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/02/15/flashback-reports-obamas-2008-campaign-reps-secretly-talked-hamas-iran/www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/24/iran.obama.letter/www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/can-obamas-hope-sway-the-french-election |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 22:49:50 GMT -5
Kerry had no business being there for any reason. He was trying to subvert the government of the US, and strike his own deal. He is a traitor. No, he was there because he had helped negotiate the former deal with regard to Iran and to be sure there was no misunderstanding about his role in those negotiations... as THEY planned to go forward with the deal without the U.S... What he did before is irrelevant. He's no longer in the government, so has no role to play. He's violating the very law that Flynn was falsely accused of violating. He's trying to undercut President Trump, and is treating with the enemy. Both are crimes. |
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Post by redleg on May 21, 2018 22:56:46 GMT -5
[So, you are saying that the US Constitution covers everyone in the world? Or just those you decide it does? ] Only to the point that they are not allowed to be tortured, starved or beaten on the bus ride back home. Nothing else. [Yes, the "unborn" do have those same rights. They are also human beings, just like illegal aliens. What you claim is that we can kill them because they aren't 'yet' legal residents, so why shouldn't we extend your argument to illegal aliens? They are also not "yet" legal residents, so why do they have rights that actual citizens (unborn) aren't given? Why can't we simply kill them like the Left insists is a "right" for them to kill the unborn? ] T Illegals are also NOT citizens, even though they might be born. Therefore, why doesn't the same law apply to them? If they aren't citizens, why can't we just shoot them, or hang them, or stick scissors in the back of their heads and suck their brains out? No, SCOTUS didn't. They simply said that murdering her unborn child wasn't the government's business. They have zero Constitutional basis for that decision, but there it is. [Trump is not "trying to limit" health care. Murder is not health care. That's what he's trying to limit. The murder of unborn American citizens because they are 'inconvenient" to their mother.] Murdering a baby is not "health care", and that's all PP does. They may make a referral to some other clinic occasionally, but they are in the business of killing babies, and selling the parts. They have nothing to do with the well being of the baby, they want to kill him/her. That's all they are in business for. They have zero mammogram machines, zero labs for blood work, zero ability to do anything about health care, other than referring the mother to somewhere else, which any clinic can do. [It is a mental disorder. Did kids with Down's Syndrome "choose" to be that way? If so, when? Just because one is born with it doesn't mean it's not a mental disorder. Psychopaths are also "born that way", so are most of those with other personality disorders. That doesn't mean it's not a mental disorder. If a child is born with a cleft palate, does that mean it's not a physical disorder? ] It's a developmental disorder, both mental and physical. So is bipolar. So is homosexuality. So are most 'mental disorders'. |
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Post by aboutwell on May 22, 2018 21:45:49 GMT -5
You had to go back a year to find just two, Redleg... and those were "corrections" when they had reported what they had at the time... (not unusual when news is just coming out... lot of differing stories)... you don't have to go back even a week to find where Fox News was lying... not just wrong, but lying... and Trump, who lied at least 11 times just this past weekend... at least CNN does correct their errors openly... Trump and Fox News can't even admit it when they''re wrong... much less correct themselves... Yes, retractions. They lied. Because they were so hopped up, thinking they "had Trump now", they didn't bother to check sources, or even edit. They also continually lie about what he says. Like when he called MS 13 animals, and CNN and the rest of the LR media screamed he was calling all illegals animals. And now, when he's calling for an investigation of the DOJ for spying on him, they are hysterical that he's "infringing on the independence of the DOJ". When they were illegally spying, and illegally wiretapping, and illegally 'investigating' him. Fox isn't lying, they are just reporting the news that the LR media refuses to report. Like Trump's accomplishments. If they recognize them at all, they give them about 4 seconds, then are back to porn queens, and 'collusion'. One cannot lie if they don't know the truth about what they are saying... they are simply mistaken... and like I said, they went with the information that they had at the time... and corrected it when other information was made known to them... at least they can admit to their mistakes... Fox News seems to be incapable of that... and Trump finds it impossible to tell the truth on a daily basis... |
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Post by aboutwell on May 22, 2018 21:49:28 GMT -5
In his plea agreement, Flynn admitted he lied to FBI agents about two discussions he had with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, in December 2016 when Flynn was still a private citizen and before Trump took office... and Flynn was not a member of the Cabinet until he was confirmed by the Senate in January... the EC in each state cast their votes in December and the election was not officially complete until January 6, 2017... And BTW... please remind me what I said about having "no problem with The Puppet sending 'envoys' to foreign governments prior to his election'... (I didn't know he did)... or to his using tax dollars to influence the elections in Israel or France"... (I don't know that he did that either)... I don't recall saying anything about either... Flynn, as a private citizen, was attempting to "negotiate" future foreign policy in behalf of Trump... John Kerry, as a private citizen, wasn't trying to negotiate any foreign policy... especially for Trump... since Trump doesn't have a foreign policy with regard to Iran... Flynn 'admitted' to lying because he was bankrupted by Mueller, just as Mueller intended, and Mueller was threatening to prosecute Flynn's son on a bogus charge. Flynn didn't have the money to fight him. Even the FBI agents, one of whom is a member of the coup, said he didn't lie to them. Mueller is withholding exculpatory evidence, making up "evidence", lying to Congress, and committing extortion. He has nothing at all on anyone he's "charged", he's trying to bankrupt them to force them to make up something damning about Trump. He's not investigating "collusion", or he would have already charged The Felon, except that "collusion" is not against the law. He has no crime to investigate, and I hope Trump forces him to pay back every penny he's wasted on this witch hunt. Flynn wasn't a "private citizen", he was a member of the President elect's transition team. It was his job to connect with his counterparts in other governments, including Russia. Kerry, on the other hand, has no authority, no reason, and no legal standing to meet with any foreign governmental entity. He's doing his best to undercut Trump's policies, and I wish Trump would simply revoke his passport while he's in Iran, and leave him there, since he's so enamored of Muslim "hospitality". As for The Puppet, www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92705108thehill.com/policy/international/236565-netanyahu-pollster-obama-role-in-election-larger-than-reportedwww.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/02/15/flashback-reports-obamas-2008-campaign-reps-secretly-talked-hamas-iran/www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/24/iran.obama.letter/www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/can-obamas-hope-sway-the-french-electionAs a "member of Trump's transition team,"... Flynn had no "counterparts" in Russia...  |
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Post by redleg on May 22, 2018 22:32:17 GMT -5
Yes, retractions. They lied. Because they were so hopped up, thinking they "had Trump now", they didn't bother to check sources, or even edit. They also continually lie about what he says. Like when he called MS 13 animals, and CNN and the rest of the LR media screamed he was calling all illegals animals. And now, when he's calling for an investigation of the DOJ for spying on him, they are hysterical that he's "infringing on the independence of the DOJ". When they were illegally spying, and illegally wiretapping, and illegally 'investigating' him. Fox isn't lying, they are just reporting the news that the LR media refuses to report. Like Trump's accomplishments. If they recognize them at all, they give them about 4 seconds, then are back to porn queens, and 'collusion'. One cannot lie if they don't know the truth about what they are saying... they are simply mistaken... and like I said, they went with the information that they had at the time... and corrected it when other information was made known to them... at least they can admit to their mistakes... Fox News seems to be incapable of that... and Trump finds it impossible to tell the truth on a daily basis... It's THEIR JOB to know the truth, or as much as they can possibly find out. Just like the entire LR media declaring that Trump called all illegals "animals" when they knew he was talking about MS13. When they showcase the admitted liar Brennan, and act like he's telling them the truth, as long as he's bashing Trump. When they run stories that they know are false, then claim "well, we were too hasty" when they are caught. They only "corrected" it when they realized their story was crashing the stock market. And the "reporter" that wrote the story is still working for them. Trump tells the truth, the LR media just refuses to recognize it, because it's Trump telling it. Like when he said he was being wiretapped, and the LR media had a field day. He was telling the truth. It's the LR media that's lying. |
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Post by redleg on May 22, 2018 22:33:25 GMT -5
Flynn 'admitted' to lying because he was bankrupted by Mueller, just as Mueller intended, and Mueller was threatening to prosecute Flynn's son on a bogus charge. Flynn didn't have the money to fight him. Even the FBI agents, one of whom is a member of the coup, said he didn't lie to them. Mueller is withholding exculpatory evidence, making up "evidence", lying to Congress, and committing extortion. He has nothing at all on anyone he's "charged", he's trying to bankrupt them to force them to make up something damning about Trump. He's not investigating "collusion", or he would have already charged The Felon, except that "collusion" is not against the law. He has no crime to investigate, and I hope Trump forces him to pay back every penny he's wasted on this witch hunt. Flynn wasn't a "private citizen", he was a member of the President elect's transition team. It was his job to connect with his counterparts in other governments, including Russia. Kerry, on the other hand, has no authority, no reason, and no legal standing to meet with any foreign governmental entity. He's doing his best to undercut Trump's policies, and I wish Trump would simply revoke his passport while he's in Iran, and leave him there, since he's so enamored of Muslim "hospitality". As for The Puppet, www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92705108thehill.com/policy/international/236565-netanyahu-pollster-obama-role-in-election-larger-than-reportedwww.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/02/15/flashback-reports-obamas-2008-campaign-reps-secretly-talked-hamas-iran/www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/24/iran.obama.letter/www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/can-obamas-hope-sway-the-french-electionAs a "member of Trump's transition team,"... Flynn had no "counterparts" in Russia... Of course he does. Or was The Puppets' NatSec Advisor lying when he was contacting his counter parts? |
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Post by Ranger John on May 25, 2018 19:33:06 GMT -5
To fully illustrate my point: This is Elizabeth Warren:  She has made no effort to alter her appearance, but she says she is Native American. She is not. If you want to believe she is Native American, and Harvard wants to list her as a "woman of color" to pretend to be more diverse, that's on you and Harvard. But it would be wrong to force Harvard to accept her as a "woman of color" without any evidence she is. Likewise it would be wrong to demand anyone else accept her as Native American. This is Rachel Dolezal:  She has used some combination of tanning, cosmetics and hair products to make her appear to be African American. She is not. If you want to believe she is, and the NAACP want to make her President of the Spokane Washington Chapter, that's on you and the NAACP. But it would be wrong to go to the NAACP and demand they continue to employ her as President of that chapter after it was discovered she is not, for the same reason it's wrong to demand anyone else accept her as African American. This is Caitlyn Jenner:  She has undergone surgery and hormone treatment to make her appear female (and she is STILL the least effed up member of the Kardashian/Jenner clan). She is not female. If you want to use female pronouns and pretend she is, that's on you. But it would be wrong to force biological females to compete with her in the Decathlon, for the same reason it's wrong to demand anyone else accept her as female. This is Maria Cristerna:  She has undergone extensive surgery and other body modifications to make her appear to be a demoness. I know this will come as a shock to Leftists, but she is not a demoness. If you want to worship her and sacrifice small furry animals to her, that's on you, but it would be profoundly wrong. Likewise it would be profoundly wrong to demand others sacrifice small furry animals to her. It is important as intelligent, rational beings that we're able to understand and accept what is real and what isn't. There are times when it is fun/polite/otherwise appropriate to play along and pretend. But we must NEVER forget that Warren isn't really Native American, Dolezal isn't really black, Jenner isn't really female, and Cristerna isn't really a preternatural hell-creature. Now you may say, but that's ridiculous! No one would ever think Cristerna crawled out of hell. I would have thought that too, before Liberals started pretending Warren, Dolezal and Jenner were something they aren't and demanding everyone else avow that 2+2=5. Speaking of Rachel Dolezal: Yahoo NewsShe’s facing felony welfare fraud charges. |
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