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Post by winston on Aug 21, 2014 6:43:06 GMT -5
This case is not cut and dried. Sharpton is useless. Well, it isn't cut and dried yet. Give it another couple weeks. It sounds like there are plenty of witnesses to what happened, so the truth should come out. And yes, Sharpton is useless. Unless you're a thug that wants a new TV, in which case he makes a good distraction from your looting. Your comment is untrue.
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Post by breakingbad on Aug 21, 2014 6:48:46 GMT -5
This case is not cut and dried. Sharpton is useless. Brown's family feels different. Please explain? Do you ever back anything up? Of course they do. Their son was an angel. He would never do anything wrong.
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Post by middleoftheroad on Aug 21, 2014 6:48:53 GMT -5
The New York Post is now reporting that the officer suffered an orbital blowout fracture, but they're citing Gateway Pundit as the source of the story. fox is reporting it now as well, citing a (and I don't like these) anonymous "well placed" source, "close to the police brass". www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/ Not sure why his defense lawyer or the police department would not have this out there formally by now. The lack of confirmation raises doubt as to the accuracy of the report. Perhaps they are waiting to formally present to the Grand Jury in the hope of killing the indictment?
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Post by alienrace on Aug 21, 2014 7:22:07 GMT -5
A local radio station also reported that the key witness has now changed his story and says that Brown charged Wilson, again citing well placed "sources". Hard to believe what is true or false ATM, which is why I am withholding judgement until all of the facts are present.
Which I could say the same about the looters and rioters in Ferguson.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 21, 2014 7:50:27 GMT -5
A local radio station also reported that the key witness has now changed his story and says that Brown charged Wilson, again citing well placed "sources". Hard to believe what is true or false ATM, which is why I am withholding judgement until all of the facts are present. Which I could say the same about the looters and rioters in Ferguson. Anyone suspicious it is all right wing media sources reporting about the blown orbit on Wilson…………..and now no one actually named in the quote…..I suppose anything passes the sniff test with the righties, as long as it says what they want it to say…….
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Post by middleoftheroad on Aug 21, 2014 8:01:28 GMT -5
A local radio station also reported that the key witness has now changed his story and says that Brown charged Wilson, again citing well placed "sources". Hard to believe what is true or false ATM, which is why I am withholding judgement until all of the facts are present. Which I could say the same about the looters and rioters in Ferguson. Anyone suspicious it is all right wing media sources reporting about the blown orbit on Wilson…………..and now no one actually named in the quote…..I suppose anything passes the sniff test with the righties, as long as it says what they want it to say……. I'm suspicious of it as well kashmir, but not because the reports are only coming from "right wing" media. I generally suspect that there is a reason people do what they do or, conversely, don't so what they don't do; I can't figure out why this Officer's defense team would not release this information. By the way, ABC is carrying the story now. abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905
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Post by Ranger John on Aug 21, 2014 8:02:28 GMT -5
Well, it isn't cut and dried yet. Give it another couple weeks. It sounds like there are plenty of witnesses to what happened, so the truth should come out. And yes, Sharpton is useless. Unless you're a thug that wants a new TV, in which case he makes a good distraction from your looting. Your comment is untrue. And your comment is unserious.
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 21, 2014 8:11:59 GMT -5
It should be easy enough to clear this up. If the officer did indeed suffer a severe eye injury, then he should have been taken for treatment and there'd be records of that somewhere. And... don't forget... it has been alleged that the officer's weapon was fired inside the car... that should be no real problem to confirm...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 21, 2014 8:21:28 GMT -5
In all honesty, I don't know where you or anybody else saw MB paying for anything on this video... both hands behind his back... (Not getting a wallet)... reaching over the counter... getting some cigars... NOT handing the clerk anything... not getting any change from the store clerk... handing the cigars to his friend behind him... reaching over the counter getting even MORE cigars... still not paying... turns and starts to leave... store manager comes out trying to get MB to pay... W#hat do you see other than that?...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 21, 2014 8:26:53 GMT -5
ALL of these "witnesses" have major problems with their eye witness accounts... I won't point them out here... (but I certainly could)... I'll let the proper authorities do that...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 21, 2014 8:28:42 GMT -5
Nice story. Blame the right wing and Reagan. No bias there . So it is ok that he is a petty thief. Did the store owner claim that he paid for them? Video evidence didn't show what he paid for, the same as it didn't show what the conversation between the store owner and Brown was. I can't see him paying for anything on the video... at what point on the time counter did that take place?...
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Post by aboutwell on Aug 21, 2014 8:29:41 GMT -5
So it is ok that he is a petty thief. Did the store owner claim that he paid for them? Video evidence didn't show what he paid for, the same as it didn't show what the conversation between the store owner and Brown was. Prove he didn't pay, did the police say it. lol Tell me at what point on the time counter did he pay... I can't see it...
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Post by middleoftheroad on Aug 21, 2014 8:32:36 GMT -5
Prove he didn't pay, did the police say it. lol Tell me at what point on the time counter did he pay... I can't see it... Not a very clear video either, but I certainly didn't see any indication of paying for anything.
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Post by davinci on Aug 21, 2014 8:39:25 GMT -5
I love the people jumping on the bandwagon with these unsubstantiated stories! I bet they were the same people that though Bob Menendez was a pedophile and Alan Grayson beat up his wife.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 10:08:32 GMT -5
I love the people jumping on the bandwagon with these unsubstantiated stories! I bet they were the same people that though Bob Menendez was a pedophile and Alan Grayson beat up his wife. Or that Tawana Brawley was raped , or that Brown was such an innocent victim of police brutality.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 21, 2014 10:13:20 GMT -5
I love the people jumping on the bandwagon with these unsubstantiated stories! I bet they were the same people that though Bob Menendez was a pedophile and Alan Grayson beat up his wife. Or that Tawana Brawley was raped , or that Brown was such an innocent victim of police brutality. Tawana Brawley was a 15 year old girl, was she wrong, absolutely, but 15 year olds do some really stupid things. It is harder to excuse the older right wing posters that are wrong and post stupid things……..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 10:15:01 GMT -5
None of us knows what happened and the final outcome should prove interesting. Rioting and looting is never the answer.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 10:17:26 GMT -5
None of us knows what happened and the final outcome should prove interesting. Rioting and looting is never the answer. Maybe the people feel oppressed by the police, and feel like they have no recourse being poor people. despite what you right-wingers seem to think, poor people do not have much power politically or publicly.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 10:19:15 GMT -5
Didn't the original patriots including our founding fathers basically do the same thing to the British? Wasn't it riots and violence and they overthrew their oppressive government from a foreign land?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 11:06:55 GMT -5
None of us knows what happened and the final outcome should prove interesting. Rioting and looting is never the answer. Maybe the people feel oppressed by the police, and feel like they have no recourse being poor people. despite what you right-wingers seem to think, poor people do not have much power politically or publicly. The middle class also do not have much power politically or publicly, but the both collectively do have power, the power to vote. Seems to me the ones who feel oppressed by the police have a significant fraction of their culture doing things that are against the law, that part of the culture is preying on the other poor people, somehow I would bet that the majority of those poor are grateful for the police, because without them they would have no recourse at all.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 11:07:31 GMT -5
Didn't the original patriots including our founding fathers basically do the same thing to the British? Wasn't it riots and violence and they overthrew their oppressive government from a foreign land? Did the founders loot their own stores? Really?
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:17:28 GMT -5
Didn't the original patriots including our founding fathers basically do the same thing to the British? Wasn't it riots and violence and they overthrew their oppressive government from a foreign land? Did the founders loot their own stores? Really? What a goofy reply. Never mind. Good lord no wonder you're right winger.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 11:26:42 GMT -5
Didn't the original patriots including our founding fathers basically do the same thing to the British? Wasn't it riots and violence and they overthrew their oppressive government from a foreign land? Did the founders loot their own stores? Really? Good question.
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Post by Moses on Aug 21, 2014 11:28:55 GMT -5
Did the founders loot their own stores? Really? Good question. No it wasn't. It was asked on the idea that that's all the protests were doing was looting. They're not just looting. They are also protesting. There are many peaceful people on the streets that aren't looters. And you know that too right?
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 21, 2014 11:29:05 GMT -5
Did the founders loot their own stores? Really? What a goofy reply. Never mind. Good lord no wonder you're right winger. Thanks, I know that right wingers are more introspective than the lefties, those darling lefties should be more introspective.
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