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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 18:26:18 GMT -5
We get it, you hate Catholics ....... You must admit that that Church has much to answer for over this. What saddens me is the degree to which rank and file Catholics give them a pass. What I hate is the way the person just jumped to the so you hate Catholics bit. Even you admit the Catholics have some bad actions in the past. I doubt that posters going to say the same thing to you about you hating Catholics.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 18:33:14 GMT -5
We get it, you hate Catholics ....... You must admit that that Church has much to answer for over this. What saddens me is the degree to which rank and file Catholics give them a pass. I am going to assume you know that there is no equating the crimes and motives between these two religions. I personally know of no Catholics who give pedophile priests, or a covering up church a pass.
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 18:34:39 GMT -5
You must admit that that Church has much to answer for over this. What saddens me is the degree to which rank and file Catholics give them a pass. I am going to assume you know that there is no equating the crimes and motives between these two religions. I personally know of no Catholics who give pedophile priests, or a covering up church a pass. Well since you consider yourself such a learned political scholar, you better get on your horse and get some edumacation.
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Post by stevez51 on Aug 20, 2014 18:38:01 GMT -5
We get it, you hate Catholics ....... Why must you people constantly put your words into other peoples mouths. It's the only way it seems like you have a chance to win a debate. I did not see anywhere on the post with the person said he hates Catholics. Maybe just doesn't like the bad things they do. Unlike the Republicans who broad brush everyone and everything. They can't compartmentalize. Where have you been?? This poster hates religion, mainly the Catholic religion. Do you just gloss over you own sided posters to just attack the ones you don't agree with??
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 20, 2014 18:39:26 GMT -5
I am going to assume you know that there is no equating the crimes and motives between these two religions. I personally know of no Catholics who give pedophile priests, or a covering up church a pass. In a real sense, any Catholic who continues to give them money and attend services is giving them a pass. The way you punish an organization for bad behavior is to leave it. If you are suggestion that beheading people and making videos is worse... maybe. Beheading is fatal, but the scars left by sexual abuse can be lifelong and debilitating.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 18:43:37 GMT -5
This reporter was beheaded by someone evil.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 18:46:03 GMT -5
I am going to assume you know that there is no equating the crimes and motives between these two religions. I personally know of no Catholics who give pedophile priests, or a covering up church a pass. In a real sense, any Catholic who continues to give them money and attend services is giving them a pass. The way you punish an organization for bad behavior is to leave it. If you are suggestion that beheading people and making videos is worse... maybe. Beheading is fatal, but the scars left by sexual abuse can be lifelong and debilitating. So if one small part of an organization commits bad behavior then the entire organization should be abandoned? If that were true then there would be no one a member of the Democratic party, or for that matter any party. No I am not worrying about the crime, but the foundation of the crime. ISIS is founded on the principals written down in ISLAM, the catholic church misbehavior is not part of their religious dogma. That is the primary difference. Now if we were talking about the Jewish then maybe the Old testament, or whatever other religious documents would need to be discussed because they are also full of atrocities, but Christians have the new Testament which I am lead to believe doesn't have all that blood and gore, or pedophilia, Islam does.
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 18:47:56 GMT -5
Why must you people constantly put your words into other peoples mouths. It's the only way it seems like you have a chance to win a debate. I did not see anywhere on the post with the person said he hates Catholics. Maybe just doesn't like the bad things they do. Unlike the Republicans who broad brush everyone and everything. They can't compartmentalize. Where have you been?? This poster hates religion, mainly the Catholic religion. Do you just gloss over you own sided posters to just attack the ones you don't agree with?? I would prefer to let the poster speak for himself. Right here you're putting a bunch of words in the posters mouth.
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 18:49:21 GMT -5
In a real sense, any Catholic who continues to give them money and attend services is giving them a pass. The way you punish an organization for bad behavior is to leave it. If you are suggestion that beheading people and making videos is worse... maybe. Beheading is fatal, but the scars left by sexual abuse can be lifelong and debilitating. So if one small part of an organization commits bad behavior then the entire organization should be abandoned? If that were true then there would be no one a member of the Democratic party, or for that matter any party. No I am not worrying about the crime, but the foundation of the crime. ISIS is founded on the principals written down in ISLAM, the catholic church misbehavior is not part of their religious dogma. That is the primary difference. Now if we were talking about the Jewish then maybe the Old testament, or whatever other religious documents would need to be discussed because they are also full of atrocities, but Christians have the new Testament which I am lead to believe doesn't have all that blood and gore, or pedophilia, Islam does. Holy cow That's an explanation? I wish I had glossed over this. Good Lord. Talk about making some far-fetched excuses for bad behavior. And at the same time continuing with your prejudice toward Muslims.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 18:50:36 GMT -5
So if one small part of an organization commits bad behavior then the entire organization should be abandoned? If that were true then there would be no one a member of the Democratic party, or for that matter any party. No I am not worrying about the crime, but the foundation of the crime. ISIS is founded on the principals written down in ISLAM, the catholic church misbehavior is not part of their religious dogma. That is the primary difference. Now if we were talking about the Jewish then maybe the Old testament, or whatever other religious documents would need to be discussed because they are also full of atrocities, but Christians have the new Testament which I am lead to believe doesn't have all that blood and gore, or pedophilia, Islam does. Holy cow That's an explanation? I wish I had glossed over this. Good Lord. Talk about making some far-fetched excuses for bad behavior. And at the same time continuing with your prejudice toward Muslims. Your post was garbled, care to post it again. Maybe some stray cosmic rays got in the way when it was sent.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 20, 2014 19:14:17 GMT -5
Talk about making some far-fetched excuses for bad behavior. And at the same time continuing with your prejudice toward Muslims. I believe John McCain once said he would "always hate the gooks". He came by that opinion honestly; they mistreated him for over five years. In precisely the same way, the Muslim extremists of the world are training people to fear, distrust, and dislike their faith. Those Muslims who are not part of the violence are likely to feel its effects. They should consider abandoning that religion.
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 19:29:33 GMT -5
True. But in the modern era the Muslims are the principal distributor of that commodity. We still kill more Muslims than they kill us. We obviously haven't killed enough.
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 19:33:23 GMT -5
Ah yes, all those 20th century Catholic beheadings, stonings, honor killings, female circumcisions. Those were the good old days. Aren't you just adorable ignoring the Pink Pope and his merry priesthood of pedophiles in the middle of the room............ You left out the 'gay'. They were gay pedophiles. You know, the ones you want to get "married", and have everything normal people have?
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Post by Evil Yoda on Aug 20, 2014 19:36:07 GMT -5
Aren't you just adorable ignoring the Pink Pope and his merry priesthood of pedophiles in the middle of the room............ You left out the 'gay'. They were gay pedophiles. You know, the ones you want to get "married", and have everything normal people have? Not all of them. And the real crime was the Church's decades long coverup of their crimes. Or were all those officials also gay? If you hold that view then darn near the entire hierarchy is gay. Although, what a place to hide, in an organization where normal marriage is forbidden? Hmmm, kinda makes you wonder who created THAT rule, doesn't it?
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 19:39:06 GMT -5
You left out the 'gay'. They were gay pedophiles. You know, the ones you want to get "married", and have everything normal people have? Not all of them. And the real crime was the Church's decades long coverup of their crimes. Or were all those officials also gay? If you hold that view then darn near the entire hierarchy is gay. Although, what a place to hide, in an organization where normal marriage is forbidden? Hmmm, kinda makes you wonder who created THAT rule, doesn't it? The majority, probably the vast majority, were. So, coverups are bad? Like all the crimes The Puppet and his Merry Marxists are covering up? Yes, the Catholic hierarchy was wrong, and every priest that committed a crime should be removed, and prosecuted. However, what I find reprehensible is the fact that someone like kashmir will call the priests to account for pedophilia, but not for the homosexual pedophiia. I guess it's okay with her if it's just little boys that are molested.
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Post by kashmir on Aug 20, 2014 19:39:58 GMT -5
Aren't you just adorable ignoring the Pink Pope and his merry priesthood of pedophiles in the middle of the room............ You left out the 'gay'. They were gay pedophiles. You know, the ones you want to get "married", and have everything normal people have? Who are you to define what is normal? You of all posters. That is just sooooo wrong.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 19:42:48 GMT -5
You left out the 'gay'. They were gay pedophiles. You know, the ones you want to get "married", and have everything normal people have? Not all of them. And the real crime was the Church's decades long coverup of their crimes. Or were all those officials also gay? If you hold that view then darn near the entire hierarchy is gay. Although, what a place to hide, in an organization where normal marriage is forbidden? Hmmm, kinda makes you wonder who created THAT rule, doesn't it? It does make you go Hmmmmm when you think of monasteries full of men only.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 19:46:58 GMT -5
Evil exists across many groups of people. Yes there have been some bad priests, teachers and even parents who have molested children. Some Muslims like to kill and justify their actions. I think the killer of James Foley is evil and should face life in a cage if caught.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 19:53:17 GMT -5
Evil exists across many groups of people. Yes there have been some bad priests, teachers and even parents who have molested children. Some Muslims like to kill and justify their actions. I think the killer of James Foley is evil and should face life in a cage if caught. That is where we differ, you have a way kinder heart, if caught, and convicted I would prefer he get the same fate as Foley. Swift justice, not a lifetime of cable TV and 3 squares a day.
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 20:08:26 GMT -5
You left out the 'gay'. They were gay pedophiles. You know, the ones you want to get "married", and have everything normal people have? Who are you to define what is normal? You of all posters. That is just sooooo wrong. Less than 2% of the population. That makes it abnormal. An abberation. So, you not only support perversion, you support abnormality. Figures.
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 20:09:52 GMT -5
Not all of them. And the real crime was the Church's decades long coverup of their crimes. Or were all those officials also gay? If you hold that view then darn near the entire hierarchy is gay. Although, what a place to hide, in an organization where normal marriage is forbidden? Hmmm, kinda makes you wonder who created THAT rule, doesn't it? It does make you go Hmmmmm when you think of monasteries full of men only. I'm not Catholic, so I have no dog in this fight, except to defend against the rabidity and hysteria of the Left.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Aug 20, 2014 20:13:24 GMT -5
It does make you go Hmmmmm when you think of monasteries full of men only. I'm not Catholic, so I have no dog in this fight, except to defend against the rabidity and hysteria of the Left. Are monasteries a catholic thing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 20:17:46 GMT -5
I'm not Catholic, so I have no dog in this fight, except to defend against the rabidity and hysteria of the Left. Are monasteries a catholic thing? Yes.
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Post by redleg on Aug 20, 2014 20:18:03 GMT -5
I'm not Catholic, so I have no dog in this fight, except to defend against the rabidity and hysteria of the Left. Are monasteries a catholic thing? Yes. Monks are part of a particular sect of Catholicism.
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Post by Moses on Aug 20, 2014 20:22:44 GMT -5
We still kill more Muslims than they kill us. We obviously haven't killed enough. How many have you killed redleg?
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