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Post by Ranger John on Nov 3, 2014 20:21:48 GMT -5
But it is true... the South has changed much over the last many years... but it's not changed enough... and if you don't think the things Landrieu cites about the South, you are very much uninformed... and need to just go back and stick your head in the sand again... And BTW... most Republicans I know had rather it be like it was 50 years ago... Democrats seem to want to go too far in the other direction... I find myself somewhere in between... For those of you who think race isn't a factor: "Jindal's comments aside, Obama's approval rating in the state is starkly divided by race. Seventeen percent of Louisiana whites approve of the job he is doing, compared to 76 percent of non-whites."Given that blacks tend to vote Democrat at like a 95% clip, that 24% of blacks that no longer approve of the job he's doing is pretty embarrassing for him. Of course, knowing that Obama is a failure, and the worst President since at least Carter, and possibly Buchanan, has NOTHING to do with his race.
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Post by redleg on Nov 4, 2014 0:27:35 GMT -5
Of course. The Dems have spent generations making sure that blacks stay in failed, crime ridden schools, are supported by government handouts, and protected from ever having to face the consequences of their own decisions. IOW, they are the epitome of the LIV, just what the Dems want for everyone. And, since as you point out ad nauseum, The Puppet IS black, and therefore the recipient of race identity among blacks. The post to which you responded didn't mention a political Party... (nor will this one)... and while I understand what you are saying about the Blacks... you must also apply the same logic to the Whiles... right?... I mean, is 83% anti-Obama among Whites any worse than 76% pro-Obama among Blacks?... looks like it's kinda working both ways... Where have you seen 83% of whites against The Puppet? The worst I've seen is about 63% against him, and that's because of his policies, his incompetence, and his anxiousness to violate the law and the Constitution. So, why are 76% of blacks favoring him?
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 4, 2014 6:39:56 GMT -5
... EVERYTHING! There's a war on women. There's a war on immigration. There's a war on the middle class. And heck, if you listen to the Dems, racism in this country has not improved one iota. Naturally, at least according to the Dems, all this originates with the Pubs. With approval ratings in the crapper, and even Dems running with the same lame slogan as Pubs "We're not Obama" I can't understand why this mid-term isn't a slam dunk for the Pubs. Once again I will be holding my nose when I vote this Tuesday. I guess I am sympathetic to your lament! The most commonly used word in the political arena is "Fight". Everyone wants to FIGHT? I find it frightening, since everywhere else in my life those I encounter want to serve me! My grocer does wish to fight, nor my barber or my neighbors or any other of my relationships. Just as I avoid entities that brandish weapons I also avoid those who wish to "fight for me". When I need a commodity or service I simply arrange a price and pay for it. I don't need someone to fight for it. A simple purchase will suffice.
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 4, 2014 6:44:24 GMT -5
For those of you who think race isn't a factor: "Jindal's comments aside, Obama's approval rating in the state is starkly divided by race. Seventeen percent of Louisiana whites approve of the job he is doing, compared to 76 percent of non-whites."Given that blacks tend to vote Democrat at like a 95% clip, that 24% of blacks that no longer approve of the job he's doing is pretty embarrassing for him. Of course, knowing that Obama is a failure, and the worst President since at least Carter, and possibly Buchanan, has NOTHING to do with his race. Who cares! Some forget that Blacks once voted 100% Republican in the South.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 4, 2014 6:49:20 GMT -5
Given that blacks tend to vote Democrat at like a 95% clip, that 24% of blacks that no longer approve of the job he's doing is pretty embarrassing for him. Of course, knowing that Obama is a failure, and the worst President since at least Carter, and possibly Buchanan, has NOTHING to do with his race. Who cares! Some forget that Blacks once voted 100% Republican in the South. Just trying to poin out that aboutwell's notion that believing Obama is a failure because of the job he's done has nothing to do with his race. Really, if there's any racism going on at all, it's among the blacks that continue to support him Because he's black, and in spite of the clownishly poor effort he's made to lead the country.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 7:15:24 GMT -5
Who cares! Some forget that Blacks once voted 100% Republican in the South. Just trying to poin out that aboutwell's notion that believing Obama is a failure because of the job he's done has nothing to do with his race. Really, if there's any racism going on at all, it's among the blacks that continue to support him Because he's black, and in spite of the clownishly poor effort he's made to lead the country. Aboutwell has never said that the President's race had anything to do with the job he has or is doing... no need to try to point out something that is false, my man... of course you do seem to piss in the wind a lot...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 7:19:19 GMT -5
The post to which you responded didn't mention a political Party... (nor will this one)... and while I understand what you are saying about the Blacks... you must also apply the same logic to the Whiles... right?... I mean, is 83% anti-Obama among Whites any worse than 76% pro-Obama among Blacks?... looks like it's kinda working both ways... Where have you seen 83% of whites against The Puppet? The worst I've seen is about 63% against him, and that's because of his policies, his incompetence, and his anxiousness to violate the law and the Constitution. So, why are 76% of blacks favoring him? That's number from the state of Louisiana...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 7:23:49 GMT -5
Do you have an example of such a district?... Are you a TEA partier?... your phrase, "like minded individuals," in one of their most used phrases... Do you have that example, Hawgtp?... I guess Hawgtp has a suggestion for a district... but doesn't have an example of it?...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 7:34:31 GMT -5
... EVERYTHING! There's a war on women. There's a war on immigration. There's a war on the middle class. And heck, if you listen to the Dems, racism in this country has not improved one iota.Naturally, at least according to the Dems, all this originates with the Pubs. I have never known of any Democrat who would say that race relations in this Country have not improved a lot over the last 50 years... because one would have to be blind to think that they haven't... Some of you folks just pull things right out of the air...
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Nov 4, 2014 8:06:55 GMT -5
... EVERYTHING! There's a war on women. There's a war on immigration. There's a war on the middle class. And heck, if you listen to the Dems, racism in this country has not improved one iota. Naturally, at least according to the Dems, all this originates with the Pubs. With approval ratings in the crapper, and even Dems running with the same lame slogan as Pubs "We're not Obama" I can't understand why this mid-term isn't a slam dunk for the Pubs. Once again I will be holding my nose when I vote this Tuesday. I guess I am sympathetic to your lament! The most commonly used word in the political arena is "Fight". Everyone wants to FIGHT? I find it frightening, since everywhere else in my life those I encounter want to serve me! My grocer does wish to fight, nor my barber or my neighbors or any other of my relationships. Just as I avoid entities that brandish weapons I also avoid those who wish to "fight for me". When I need a commodity or service I simply arrange a price and pay for it. I don't need someone to fight for it. A simple purchase will suffice. The fight comes in when you want someone else to pay for the service you desire.
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 4, 2014 8:11:04 GMT -5
I guess I am sympathetic to your lament! The most commonly used word in the political arena is "Fight". Everyone wants to FIGHT? I find it frightening, since everywhere else in my life those I encounter want to serve me! My grocer does wish to fight, nor my barber or my neighbors or any other of my relationships. Just as I avoid entities that brandish weapons I also avoid those who wish to "fight for me". When I need a commodity or service I simply arrange a price and pay for it. I don't need someone to fight for it. A simple purchase will suffice. The fight comes in when you want someone else to pay for the service you desire. Well, you may be correct.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 9:09:41 GMT -5
I guess I am sympathetic to your lament! The most commonly used word in the political arena is "Fight". Everyone wants to FIGHT? I find it frightening, since everywhere else in my life those I encounter want to serve me! My grocer does wish to fight, nor my barber or my neighbors or any other of my relationships. Just as I avoid entities that brandish weapons I also avoid those who wish to "fight for me". When I need a commodity or service I simply arrange a price and pay for it. I don't need someone to fight for it. A simple purchase will suffice. The fight comes in when you want someone else to pay for the service you desire. Sounds like you wouldn't like non-union members who choose to let someone else pay for the service they get... right?...
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 4, 2014 16:58:27 GMT -5
Just trying to poin out that aboutwell's notion that believing Obama is a failure because of the job he's done has nothing to do with his race. Really, if there's any racism going on at all, it's among the blacks that continue to support him Because he's black, and in spite of the clownishly poor effort he's made to lead the country. Aboutwell has never said that the President's race had anything to do with the job he has or is doing... no need to try to point out something that is false, my man... of course you do seem to piss in the wind a lot... Ok, fine. The implications of your previous statement that Landreau was right to bring up racism from 40 years ago will be considered another of your mistakes going forward.
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 4, 2014 17:10:37 GMT -5
The fight comes in when you want someone else to pay for the service you desire. Sounds like you wouldn't like non-union members who choose to let someone else pay for the service they get... right?... Are you suggesting that government forces union folk to provide services for others?
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 4, 2014 17:16:55 GMT -5
Sounds like you wouldn't like non-union members who choose to let someone else pay for the service they get... right?... Are you suggesting that government forces union folk to provide services for others? That's what he is saying. But he doesn't mean it.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 17:44:08 GMT -5
Sounds like you wouldn't like non-union members who choose to let someone else pay for the service they get... right?... Are you suggesting that government forces union folk to provide services for others? Well, Hawgtp didn't mention government... nor did I... but the government does require unions to provide services to it's members in exchange for the dues they pay...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 17:45:15 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that government forces union folk to provide services for others? That's what he is saying. But he doesn't mean it. The law does require unions to provide services to their members for the dues or DE they pay...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 17:48:17 GMT -5
Aboutwell has never said that the President's race had anything to do with the job he has or is doing... no need to try to point out something that is false, my man... of course you do seem to piss in the wind a lot... Ok, fine. The implications of your previous statement that Landreau was right to bring up racism from 40 years ago will be considered another of your mistakes going forward. She was right bringing it up... because what she said was true... and seems to still have some truth to it in many folks eyes... Implications?... you've got to be kidding... right?...
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Post by rentedmule on Nov 4, 2014 18:03:33 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that government forces union folk to provide services for others? Well, Hawgtp didn't mention government... nor did I... but the government does require unions to provide services to it's members in exchange for the dues they pay... Exactly. Government forcing innocent union folk to 'provide' and innocent folk who only desire to work are forced to purchase union protection. So the dupes (non union) have no choice and the unionists have no choice. Are we angry or happy about this arrangement? (the thread is about conjuring up a war....)
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 4, 2014 18:04:31 GMT -5
Ok, fine. The implications of your previous statement that Landreau was right to bring up racism from 40 years ago will be considered another of your mistakes going forward. She was right bringing it up... because what she said was true... and seems to still have some truth to it in many folks eyes... Implications?... you've got to be kidding... right?... You're right. What she said is true. The south has a history of racism and sexism. The important word in that sentence is HISTORY. She brings it up, because like most progressives, she lives in the distant past, when racism and sexism were rampant. The problem is, in 2014, it is an idiotic statement, because it implies the problem still exists. It implies that many of her constituents are racists. And your statement implies that opposition to Obama is racist. Now I know that what you write and what you mean rarely coincide. I know this because you keep insisting that what you meant has nothing to do with what you wrote. We covered this a few weeks back when we explored "Humpty Dumptyism" - the practice of insisting that words mean what you say they mean, rather than the generally accepted meaning.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 18:37:57 GMT -5
Well, Hawgtp didn't mention government... nor did I... but the government does require unions to provide services to it's members in exchange for the dues they pay... Exactly. Government forcing innocent union folk to 'provide' and innocent folk who only desire to work are forced to purchase union protection. So the dupes (non union) have no choice and the unionists have no choice. Are we angry or happy about this arrangement? (the thread is about conjuring up a war....) Nope... not what I said at all...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 18:43:16 GMT -5
She was right bringing it up... because what she said was true... and seems to still have some truth to it in many folks eyes... Implications?... you've got to be kidding... right?... You're right. What she said is true. The south has a history of racism and sexism. The important word in that sentence is HISTORY. She brings it up, because like most progressives, she lives in the distant past, when racism and sexism were rampant. The problem is, in 2014, it is an idiotic statement, because it implies the problem still exists. It implies that many of her constituents are racists. And your statement implies that opposition to Obama is racist. Now I know that what you write and what you mean rarely coincide. I know this because you keep insisting that what you meant has nothing to do with what you wrote. We covered this a few weeks back when we explored "Humpty Dumptyism" - the practice of insisting that words mean what you say they mean, rather than the generally accepted meaning. Ain't no "were" to it... it does still exist... as demonstrated in the numbers I cited from Louisiana... many of her constituents are racists... but simple opposition to the President isn't racist... no matter what color he is... And I always mean what I say... you are just too simple minded... or stupid... to understand it...
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 4, 2014 18:45:12 GMT -5
You're right. What she said is true. The south has a history of racism and sexism. The important word in that sentence is HISTORY. She brings it up, because like most progressives, she lives in the distant past, when racism and sexism were rampant. The problem is, in 2014, it is an idiotic statement, because it implies the problem still exists. It implies that many of her constituents are racists. And your statement implies that opposition to Obama is racist. Now I know that what you write and what you mean rarely coincide. I know this because you keep insisting that what you meant has nothing to do with what you wrote. We covered this a few weeks back when we explored "Humpty Dumptyism" - the practice of insisting that words mean what you say they mean, rather than the generally accepted meaning. Ain't no "were" to it... it does still exist... as demonstrated in the numbers I cited from Louisiana... many of her constituents are racists... but simple opposition to the President isn't racist... no matter what color he is... And I always mean what I say... you are just too simple minded... or stupid... to understand it... I'd reply in more detail, but I already know that you don't mean what you write... so...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 4, 2014 21:42:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't dig any deeper if I were you either...
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 4, 2014 23:26:07 GMT -5
Its the ECONOMY Stupid!
This war on women or whatever is Bull Shi+
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