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Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5
So you are just another who has found Cosby guilty on 'allegations'. You seem to suggest quite simply that more allegations cement 'proof'. Isn't that shaky ground to be standing on for someone who chastises the champ for his 'proof' of alien visitation and assistance in pyramid building? At this point in time Cosby's guilt has exactly the same level of 'proof' as the champs 'aliens' does. Over a dozen women are reporting the same sequence of events with minor variations. That's a whole lot more proof than Ravenchamp's allegations have supporting them. This morning comes a new twist: back in the 80s when he was "America's Dad" he was discovered partying hard. To keep that out of the news he handed reporters sordid details about his daughter's fight against drug and alcohol addiction. Not rape, but a rat bastard thing to do. Several reporters who have written about him recently have come forward to apologize for not digging more deeply into the rape allegations. Evidently, his nature has been an open secret among the entertainment community for awhile now. It's clear that Cosby's best talent was the one no one suspected he had: the ability to fool everyone for decades. He behaves as sociopaths behave. He has dropped from 3 to around 2100 on a list of celebrities people trust - in the same vicinity as Mante T'eo and his fictional girlfriend. And from 5 to around 2100 on a list celebrities people think would make good product pitchmen. He's done, and it's overdue. I wonder... if the truth be known... how many more would be put on that same list?... no doubt many of them already dead... Remember even JFK... and George Washington was said to have been eyeing his neighbors wife... been going on since Adam and Eve...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 11:52:27 GMT -5
I was always both amused and confused by the lady that would squeeze into extraordinary cleavage, practically thrusting her chest in your face and then scream at you, "don't ogle at my tits..."
Exaggeration? Perhaps a tad, but no more than some of the other exaggerations on here.
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Post by niamhaine on Nov 26, 2014 11:58:12 GMT -5
And haven't you mentioned some inappropriate behaviors by family toward you as a child? Yes, my older brother molested me from the age of 8 on, culminating in attempted rape when I was 14. My parents, unfortunately, were more interested in protecting the family name then in the welfare of their daughter. I went to counseling on my own years later. And yes, I'm sure that plays a part in why I don't like men that I have not developed a level of trust with putting their hands on me. But then, if you don't know me why would you want to put your hands on me?
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Post by niamhaine on Nov 26, 2014 12:14:20 GMT -5
Until more "modern times" the males were the "chasers" and the females were the "chasees"... times have changed... and I know I'll catch hell for saying this... and I know it wouldn't stop all of it... but knowing that males have traditionally been the aggressors, if women would dress more modestly and not go around looking like their clothes are painted on them... (what clothes thy have on them)... it just might eliminate a lot of this aggression... but females want to be looked at... just left alone... hard to fight "nature"... In the late 60's, the bank where I worked required that you wear appropriate business attire which excluded pants suits, mini dresses, and miniskirts. Really, the comment about women needing to dress more modestly...not even worthy of comment. Why don't we all just be required to wear burkas because some men can't control themselves?
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 12:19:41 GMT -5
Like I said... (and I don't have a clue as to what you wore)... it won't stop it all... but you may have just simply been irresistible... even modestly dressed... even a lock only keeps an honest man honest...
As for the burkas... believe it or not, that is due to the "respect" the men have for the woman's body... a religious thingy...
Not that I like or endorse it...
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Post by shutout on Nov 26, 2014 12:24:18 GMT -5
And haven't you mentioned some inappropriate behaviors by family toward you as a child? Yes, my older brother molested me from the age of 8 on, culminating in attempted rape when I was 14. My parents, unfortunately, were more interested in protecting the family name then in the welfare of their daughter. I went to counseling on my own years later. And yes, I'm sure that plays a part in why I don't like men that I have not developed a level of trust with putting their hands on me. But then, if you don't know me why would you want to put your hands on me? What is the "Ginger Celt" comment about a few posts back?
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Post by niamhaine on Nov 26, 2014 12:38:30 GMT -5
Yes, my older brother molested me from the age of 8 on, culminating in attempted rape when I was 14. My parents, unfortunately, were more interested in protecting the family name then in the welfare of their daughter. I went to counseling on my own years later. And yes, I'm sure that plays a part in why I don't like men that I have not developed a level of trust with putting their hands on me. But then, if you don't know me why would you want to put your hands on me? What is the "Ginger Celt" comment about a few posts back? Ginger Celts are fair skinned, red haired, mostly freckled folks of Celt descent. My now husband attracted my attention because of those traits (along with his fabulous personality and pretty blue eyes)....I know TMI-LOL.
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Post by shutout on Nov 26, 2014 12:40:59 GMT -5
What is the "Ginger Celt" comment about a few posts back? Ginger Celts are fair skinned, red haired, mostly freckled folks of Celt descent. My now husband attracted my attention because of those traits (along with his fabulous personality and pretty blue eyes)....I know TMI-LOL. I know what they are. You once blamed his behaviors on his "Dutch" ancestory. I am confused. HA
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Post by niamhaine on Nov 26, 2014 12:57:56 GMT -5
Ginger Celts are fair skinned, red haired, mostly freckled folks of Celt descent. My now husband attracted my attention because of those traits (along with his fabulous personality and pretty blue eyes)....I know TMI-LOL. I know what they are. You once blamed his behaviors on his "Dutch" ancestory. I am confused. HA Looks and behavior are two different things, so stop trying to confuse me! This is AMERICA, home of the great American melting pot. I've traced his ancestry. His ancestors are Irish/English/Scottish/Welsh/Dutch/German/Swiss with a Canadian and Norwegian thrown in somewhere back in time for good luck. Now I'm getting back on topic before CB gets out the paddle....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 13:06:27 GMT -5
Ginger Celts are fair skinned, red haired, mostly freckled folks of Celt descent. My now husband attracted my attention because of those traits (along with his fabulous personality and pretty blue eyes)....I know TMI-LOL. I know what they are. You once blamed his behaviors on his "Dutch" ancestory. I am confused. HA True story... Many years ago when in my early twenties I went dancing with some mates, most hooked up with a partner early on, so I just supped my beers until the beer goggles and Dutch courage kicked in, 'as you do'... Anyhoo, I got chatting to this Irish lass and we danced a bit (upstairs on one of those 10 square feet floor things), eventually, I got her name, Mary-Catherine and number (withheld) on the back of my cigarette packet, said my goodbyes and went home. A couple of days later I called Mary-Catherine and asked her out on a date, she said the she was surprized that I remembered her name, as apparently I was rather pissed at the time, and said that I probably didn't remember what she looks like. I said "sure I do, you were the girl with the green hair and red eyes", to which she said "I'm not a f**king dragon" and slammed the phone down... It wasn't always easy being a lad growing up in the sixties.
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Post by niamhaine on Nov 26, 2014 13:12:48 GMT -5
I know what they are. You once blamed his behaviors on his "Dutch" ancestory. I am confused. HA True story... Many years ago when in my early twenties I went dancing with some mates, most hooked up with a partner early on, so I just supped my beers until the beer goggles and Dutch courage kicked in, 'as you do'... Anyhoo, I got chatting to this Irish lass and we danced a bit (upstairs on one of those 10 square feet floor things), eventually, I got her name, Mary-Catherine and number (withheld) on the back of my cigarette packet, said my goodbyes and went home. A couple of days later I called Mary-Catherine and asked her out on a date, she said the she was surprized that I remembered her name, as apparently I was rather pissed at the time, and said that I probably didn't remember what she looks like. I said "sure I do, you were the girl with the green hair and red eyes", to which she said "I'm not a f**king dragon" and slammed the phone down... It wasn't always easy being a lad growing up in the sixties. Don't mess with those Irish girls, they have red hair for a reason. LOL
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Post by shutout on Nov 26, 2014 13:13:34 GMT -5
I know what they are. You once blamed his behaviors on his "Dutch" ancestory. I am confused. HA Looks and behavior are two different things, so stop trying to confuse me! This is AMERICA, home of the great American melting pot. I've traced his ancestry. His ancestors are Irish/English/Scottish/Welsh/Dutch/German/Swiss with a Canadian and Norwegian thrown in somewhere back in time for good luck. Now I'm getting back on topic before CB gets out the paddle.... I understand the melting pot thing. I was just confused that you mentioned some "Ginger Celt" when in the past you refered to his "Hard headed Dutch" background. I think it was about you buying store brands or using "his" woodstove with out permission.
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Post by vosa on Nov 26, 2014 13:37:33 GMT -5
How much more evidence do you need? Would *another* dozen women do? Or do you require two dozen more? A hundred? A thousand? It's a rare day where tuning in the news doesn't bring new allegations of this predator's loathsome character to light. Are all those people lying? If so few as a third of them are right, that's still four rapes. There are guys in maximum security prison who have done less. So you are just another who has found Cosby guilty on 'allegations'. You seem to suggest quite simply that more allegations cement 'proof'. Isn't that shaky ground to be standing on for someone who chastises the champ for his 'proof' of alien visitation and assistance in pyramid building? At this point in time Cosby's guilt has exactly the same level of 'proof' as the champs 'aliens' does.Not exactly. No pyramid builders have stepped up and said aliens helped them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 13:41:26 GMT -5
So you are just another who has found Cosby guilty on 'allegations'. You seem to suggest quite simply that more allegations cement 'proof'. Isn't that shaky ground to be standing on for someone who chastises the champ for his 'proof' of alien visitation and assistance in pyramid building? At this point in time Cosby's guilt has exactly the same level of 'proof' as the champs 'aliens' does.Not exactly. No pyramid builders have stepped up and said aliens helped them. The operative word in the emboldened statement is ' proof'.
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Post by niamhaine on Nov 26, 2014 14:41:24 GMT -5
Looks and behavior are two different things, so stop trying to confuse me! This is AMERICA, home of the great American melting pot. I've traced his ancestry. His ancestors are Irish/English/Scottish/Welsh/Dutch/German/Swiss with a Canadian and Norwegian thrown in somewhere back in time for good luck. Now I'm getting back on topic before CB gets out the paddle.... I understand the melting pot thing. I was just confused that you mentioned some "Ginger Celt" when in the past you refered to his "Hard headed Dutch" background. I think it was about you buying store brands or using "his" woodstove with out permission. Yes, it's all rolled into one guy. You won't hear anymore from me about the woodstove because now he is onto the pellet basket insert thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 15:23:42 GMT -5
I never liked cosby much. I did like the fat albert cartoon when I was a youngster back in the 70s. But that godawful cosby show in the 80s or 90s was terrible. So schmaltzy.
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Post by vosa on Nov 26, 2014 17:44:03 GMT -5
Not exactly. No pyramid builders have stepped up and said aliens helped them. The operative word in the emboldened statement is ' proof'. In the American judicial system 1st person eyewitness accounts are considered proof until such time as cross examination proves them to be false or, at least, questionable.
Cosby and his people have declined to challenge the claims of the accusers and therefore their claims must be taken as fact until proven otherwise.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 18:13:41 GMT -5
I never liked cosby much. I did like the fat albert cartoon when I was a youngster back in the 70s. But that godawful cosby show in the 80s or 90s was terrible. So schmaltzy. Me either... nor even Red Foxx... if it's got "canned" laughing... I don't like it...
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 26, 2014 18:17:50 GMT -5
The operative word in the emboldened statement is ' proof'. In the American judicial system 1st person eyewitness accounts are considered proof until such time as cross examination proves them to be false or, at least, questionable.
Cosby and his people have declined to challenge the claims of the accusers and therefore their claims must be taken as fact until proven otherwise.
Claimed as fact until proven otherwise... I always thought allegations had to be proven before they are believed... kinda hard to prove you didn't do some things you didn't do?... like these allegations...
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Post by rocketwolf on Nov 27, 2014 7:53:01 GMT -5
I never liked cosby much. I did like the fat albert cartoon when I was a youngster back in the 70s. But that godawful cosby show in the 80s or 90s was terrible. So schmaltzy. Me either... nor even Red Foxx... if it's got "canned" laughing... I don't like it... Then you cant watch a "comedy" show on TV. They all have that damned canned laugh track, inserted by people that have no idea what is funny.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 27, 2014 8:19:32 GMT -5
Me either... nor even Red Foxx... if it's got "canned" laughing... I don't like it... Then you cant watch a "comedy" show on TV. They all have that damned canned laugh track, inserted by people that have no idea what is funny.
I don't... (maybe that's why I'm so dull and boring)... I don't want anyone "conditioning" me on what is funny... or in many cases on these shows, disrespectful... I have talked with several adults recently who were totally unaware of the canned laughing...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:13:01 GMT -5
I think a lot of commercial tv especisally but not exclusively cable channels is created for the 1/3 lowest intelligent americans.
I also think the 1/3 stupidest people watch more tv than the other 2/3, so the show creators are creating and writing the shows for their audience. They don't care what the rest of us do. We can go read a book for all they care.
TV it is what it is! As long as you realize what it is before you turn it on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:30:05 GMT -5
I know it the last posts have gotten off topic but I just don't care that much about bill cosby or his life. guess I should stop posting in this thread then!
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Post by pahunter on Nov 27, 2014 9:47:00 GMT -5
Man your asking for it. Better wear your hard hat.
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Post by aboutwell on Nov 27, 2014 12:13:24 GMT -5
I think a lot of commercial tv especisally but not exclusively cable channels is created for the 1/3 lowest intelligent americans. I also think the 1/3 stupidest people watch more tv than the other 2/3, so the show creators are creating and writing the shows for their audience. They don't care what the rest of us do. We can go read a book for all they care. TV it is what it is! As long as you realize what it is before you turn it on. But unfortunately, it's rearing... and conditioning/indoctrinating... a lot of today's kids... while their parents are busy doing something else... My time structure for my granddaughters... (called my "30-minute plan")... who live with us... includes a period of time for their homework during the week... if they finish their homework before that period is up... or if they have no homework... the plan calls for them to read something... something like a newspaper, a book, or magazine... if it's only to look at the pictures and read the captions... with NO TV, radio, or music... And now, back to Cosby... P.S. I hate iCarly...
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