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Post by Moses on Nov 7, 2013 20:31:57 GMT -5
Put it this way. I am thrilled that the people that represent you and the other posters in here are not in power. My god that is such a relief. So those in power represent you? Thanks-I thought as much. Only a knucklehead would twist my words that way. Hope it's not you.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 7, 2013 20:44:45 GMT -5
So those in power represent you? Thanks-I thought as much. Only a knucklehead would twist my words that way. Hope it's not you. I'm sorry-is that not what you meant? Perhaps some clarity on your part would help. If my views aren't represented, thankfully according to you, and your views aren't represented then aren't we on the same footing? What have you done to nominate and elect candidates that better represent your views? And unless you're prescient, or terribly presumptive, you have no farking idea of how I voted.....frankly I'd go with the latter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 20:50:54 GMT -5
I live in a state full of far right crazies, and they all think that there Libertarian too I see Ron Paul stickers everywhere, yet they elect and reelect repubs. I really think you guys are actually embarrassed to be associated the Republican Party is been in a terrible down spiral ever since George Bush was president. Ron Paul IS a Republican. Duh.
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Post by Moses on Nov 7, 2013 20:53:09 GMT -5
I live in a state full of far right crazies, and they all think that there Libertarian too I see Ron Paul stickers everywhere, yet they elect and reelect repubs. I really think you guys are actually embarrassed to be associated the Republican Party is been in a terrible down spiral ever since George Bush was president. Ron Paul IS a Republican. Duh. Good point . I don't mind being wrong. I have way more collateral then you guys do it seems.
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Post by Moses on Nov 7, 2013 20:54:50 GMT -5
Only a knucklehead would twist my words that way. Hope it's not you. I'm sorry-is that not what you meant? Perhaps some clarity on your part would help. If my views aren't represented, thankfully according to you, and your views aren't represented then aren't we on the same footing? What have you done to nominate and elect candidates that better represent your views? And unless you're prescient, or terribly presumptive, you have no farking idea of how I voted.....frankly I'd go with the latter. I'm not really sure what is wrong with the right wing party. Whatever you want to call them. I don't know what you guys are doing. So whatever. No maybe you're right maybe both of us aren't represented at all. Maybe we are a mirror of the same thing. I can buy that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 20:57:01 GMT -5
Meanwhile millions are losing healthcare and Obama's poll numbers are dropping.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 20:58:32 GMT -5
Let's talk about the numbers. 5% may seem an insignificant number, until it's put into perspective. The common number that I'm hearing is that the 5% number equates to 15 million people, which is not an insignificant number of people. It should be noted that nearly all of the 15 million fall rather solidly into the middle class. Not if 25% qualify for Medicaid they don't. There's 25% of the people losing their insurance that qualify for Medicaid? Why would they buy insurance if they could get it for "free?"
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Post by Moses on Nov 7, 2013 20:58:55 GMT -5
Meanwhile millions are losing healthcare and Obama's poll numbers are dropping. Link? Boy what a hypocrite .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 21:05:10 GMT -5
Not if 25% qualify for Medicaid they don't. There's 25% of the people losing their insurance that qualify for Medicaid? Why would they buy insurance if they could get it for "free?" And that still leaves 75% of 15 million people with more expensive or no insurance, even if true.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 21:06:11 GMT -5
Not if 25% qualify for Medicaid they don't. There's 25% of the people losing their insurance that qualify for Medicaid? Why would they buy insurance if they could get it for "free?" Again it is NOT free. Taxpayers are paying the difference.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 21:09:12 GMT -5
There's 25% of the people losing their insurance that qualify for Medicaid? Why would they buy insurance if they could get it for "free?" And that still leaves 75% of 15 million people with more expensive or no insurance, even if true. I think he meant the 25% of people without health insurance that qualify for Medicaid. I just wanted to tweak him a bit.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 21:10:01 GMT -5
There's 25% of the people losing their insurance that qualify for Medicaid? Why would they buy insurance if they could get it for "free?" Again it is NOT free. Taxpayers are paying the difference. Mom... I know that. That's what the quotes around the word "free" meant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 21:13:26 GMT -5
Again it is NOT free. Taxpayers are paying the difference. Mom... I know that. That's what the quotes around the word "free" meant. I know you knew. I like to repeat things for emphasis.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 21:16:03 GMT -5
Mom... I know that. That's what the quotes around the word "free" meant. I know you knew. I like to repeat things for emphasis. It's OK. I'm just trying to keep my gang lined up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 21:21:21 GMT -5
douger I am here for you. :}
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 21:29:27 GMT -5
douger I am here for you. :} Good. Let's go gang up on some posters.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 7, 2013 21:31:13 GMT -5
I know you knew. I like to repeat things for emphasis. It's OK. I'm just trying to keep my gang lined up. posse dougertatis
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 21:32:37 GMT -5
I cannot tolerate those that try to suggest Obama has anyone's best interest at heart.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 21:33:08 GMT -5
It's OK. I'm just trying to keep my gang lined up. posse dougertatis I have it on really good authority that I'm the ringleader.
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Post by drjohnnyfever on Nov 7, 2013 21:58:31 GMT -5
posse dougertatis I have it on really good authority that I'm the ringleader. Iay ontway elltay ifay ouyay ontday.
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Post by douger on Nov 7, 2013 22:13:00 GMT -5
I have it on really good authority that I'm the ringleader. Iay ontway elltay ifay ouyay ontday. Time for the secret handshake. My pig Latin is horrible. I had to read it three times.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 7, 2013 23:14:55 GMT -5
zen, the 5% in question are people who ALREADY had insurance, and are now losing it. If they could already afford insurance, they're not going to be eligible for Medicaid. And honestly, even if there is are a handful of people wealthy enough to buy private insurance and still qualify for Medicaid, this is NOT a good thing. Comparatively speaking, Medicaid is a lousy substitute for regular insurance. Not if they can make this happen: " Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid PatientsYou would think that when your party is burying a hole that is getting harder and harder to get out of, you wouldn't want to that hole get deeper faster. But here is Kathleen Murphy, Democrat running for the House of Delegates against Barbara Comstock, telling a forum in Great Falls that she believes it should law to force doctors to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients." masonconservative.typepad.com/the_mason_conservative/2013/11/virginia-democrat-calls-for-forcing-doctors-to-accept-medicare-and-medicaid-patients.htmlThankfully, she lost. She couldn't have made it happen even if she won. Mainly because those Virginia Doctors would become North Carolina Doctors, or Pennsylvania Doctors in short order.
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 7, 2013 23:18:53 GMT -5
zen, the 5% in question are people who ALREADY had insurance, and are now losing it. If they could already afford insurance, they're not going to be eligible for Medicaid. And honestly, even if there is are a handful of people wealthy enough to buy private insurance and still qualify for Medicaid, this is NOT a good thing. Comparatively speaking, Medicaid is a lousy substitute for regular insurance. It's anecdotal of course but the two people I know that were dumped are both better off, frankly. What gets offered is a new policy meeting minimum standards at double the existing premium. In the two cases I'm familiar with both were paying 3-400 a month to begin with. Yes, I get your point now. Thought you were referring to the overall percentage of Americans being channeled to Medicaid. BTW, You need to be rock solid poor to qualify for Medicaid. I had to look into it earlier this year regarding a dying relative's estate and was told you had to be down to your last $2,000. That's pretty rock bottom even by republican standards. The paperwork by the way is best described as punishing. The free lunches are meager these days but the need has never been greater. Right. More expensive plans that require males to carry maternity coverage. SURE they're better off.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Nov 8, 2013 11:15:52 GMT -5
This is the plain and simple fact nationwide, this plan is wrong!!!
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Post by Ranger John on Nov 8, 2013 17:18:45 GMT -5
This is the plain and simple fact nationwide, this plan is wrong!!! ****************************************************************************** I'm pretty sure the entire purpose of the Democratic party is to create a world full of misery to blame on the GOP.
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