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[douger]

How low can he go? Barry could be about the only person that could possibly rehabilitate George Bush's reputation.

The flawed rollout of the Affordable Care Act has pushed President Obama to the lowest point of his presidency, with dwindling faith in his competence and in many of the personal attributes that have buoyed him in the past, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Opposition to the new health-care law also hit a record high in the survey, with 57 percent saying they oppose the president’s most significant domestic initiative. Forty-six percent say they are strongly against it. Just a month ago, as the enrollment period was beginning, the public was almost evenly divided in its assessments of the law.

Ouch.

[douger]

One Obamacare success story flushed.

Jessica Sanford, the Federal Way woman who got a shout-out from President Obama last month with her fan letter for the Affordable Care Act, got a rather rude awakening last week. Turns out she doesn’t qualify for a tax credit after all.

At least that’s what the letter said that she got from the state. Now she says her dream of affordable health insurance has gone poof. She can’t afford it. She’ll have to go without. “I’m really terribly embarrassed,” she says. “It has completely turned around on me. I mean, completely.”

Chalk it up to a bollixed-up state website that apparently still has major problems. Originally it said Sanford and her child would get a whopping tax credit that would reduce their total premium to $169 a month. Now the state is telling her it goofed – twice – and she has to pay full ticket. There may even be a third goof involved: At least one health-insurance broker says she may qualify for a tax credit after all, albeit a small one. Officials at the state Healthplanfinder website could not be contacted Sunday night. But it just goes to show that even in the state of Washington, which has earned national kudos for a health-insurance exchange that seems to function better than the dysfunctional federal website, there are big, big problems.

“They have to own up to what is going on,” Sanford says. “They have to fix it. They can’t just go around and say this is working great. In my opinion they ought to shut it down and just get all of it straightened out.”

Good luck with that. This administration has not shown much of an ability to either to be truthful about their mistakes or to even admit they've erred.

[douger]

Apparently the 80% figure was still a tad on the high side.

The Obama administration is lowering the bar again on the problem-plagued ObamaCare website, saying that it will be “greatly improved” by month’s end -- not fixed.

“The consumer experience … will be greatly improved for the vast majority of users by November 30,” Henry Chao, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services’ deputy chief information officer, will tell House investigators on Tuesday, according to written testimony obtained by Fox News.

Chao’s testimony, 11 days before the fix deadline, appears to be the most recent case of the administration attempting to lower expectations, or at least prepare Americans for more problems when attempting to enter the site to purchase insurance policies that begin coverage January 1.

[rocketwolf]

You cant "greatly improve" a stinking pile of crap without flushing it down the sewer.

[douger]

You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay. Just don't call me "Obamacare."

So sorry. You own it.

With the president’s approval ratings at record lows, a broken website and Obama under fire for his pledge that people could keep their plans, the “Affordable Care Act” has returned.

The president didn’t say “Obamacare” once during his nearly hourlong news conference last week, while he referred to the “Affordable Care Act” a dozen times. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi went so far as to correct David Gregory on “Meet the Press” Sunday on the proper terminology. And White House talking points distributed to Democrats and obtained by POLITICO repeatedly refer to the Affordable Care Act in suggested sound bites, not Obamacare.

[Moses]

Nov 19, 2013 9:51:15 GMT -5 douger said:

How low can he go? Barry could be about the only person that could possibly rehabilitate George Bush's reputation.

The flawed rollout of the Affordable Care Act has pushed President Obama to the lowest point of his presidency, with dwindling faith in his competence and in many of the personal attributes that have buoyed him in the past, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Opposition to the new health-care law also hit a record high in the survey, with 57 percent saying they oppose the president’s most significant domestic initiative. Forty-six percent say they are strongly against it. Just a month ago, as the enrollment period was beginning, the public was almost evenly divided in its assessments of the law.

Ouch.

Outside of these forums and away from Fox George is still considered the worst Evah!

[Evil Yoda]

Nov 19, 2013 10:59:58 GMT -5 Moses said:

Outside of these forums and away from Fox George is still considered the worst Evah!

How long will that last?

[drjohnnyfever]

Nov 19, 2013 11:22:35 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

Nov 19, 2013 10:59:58 GMT -5 Moses said:

Outside of these forums and away from Fox George is still considered the worst Evah!

How long will that last?

Thank goodness barry has all those foriegn policy successess to fall back on-without those he'd really be in the crapper.

[freddfish]

Nov 19, 2013 10:54:13 GMT -5 douger said:

You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay. Just don't call me "Obamacare."

So sorry. You own it.

With the president’s approval ratings at record lows, a broken website and Obama under fire for his pledge that people could keep their plans, the “Affordable Care Act” has returned.

The president didn’t say “Obamacare” once during his nearly hourlong news conference last week, while he referred to the “Affordable Care Act” a dozen times. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi went so far as to correct David Gregory on “Meet the Press” Sunday on the proper terminology. And White House talking points distributed to Democrats and obtained by POLITICO repeatedly refer to the Affordable Care Act in suggested sound bites, not Obamacare.

   Dear friends, kindly allow me to dance a jig full of schwadenfreude at hearing this....which I predicted with this post on Saturday:

sunspotliveson.proboards.com/post/7339/thread

I recall when Ronald Reagan was the President, he remarked that he knew his economic policies were working when the press stopped referring to them as "Reaganomics".

When the Obama-suckup media begins insisting that we refer to this putrid mess as The Affordable Health Care Act, rather than "Obamacare"...that will be one of the key tipping points that will alert us to this thing's final meltdown.

  On the one hand, it sucks being right about something so detrimental to our nation.

On the other though....the spectacle of these rats doing swan dives and one-and-a-half gainers off the fantail of the Good Ship Obama is just too precious not to savor in the moment.

Expect more too...cuz there is no way that they are going to meet the Nov 30 deadline to get this pooch unf&^%ked, from where I am sitting. 


So yeah, Doug-man...... He OWNS it.

[vosa]

You guys got it all wrong.

More than 100M people have enrolled in Obamacare.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509715/Obama-flubs-health-care-conference-community-organizers-More-100-million-Americans-successfully-enrolled.html

That includes people in all 57 states including the ones where Austrian is the official language.

[howarewegoingtopay]

Nov 19, 2013 16:26:17 GMT -5 vosa said:

You guys got it all wrong.

More than 100M people have enrolled in Obamacare.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509715/Obama-flubs-health-care-conference-community-organizers-More-100-million-Americans-successfully-enrolled.html

That includes people in all 57 states including the ones where Austrian is the official language.

They were calling it a gaffe, but frankly sounds like just another lie to me.

[drjohnnyfever]

Nov 19, 2013 16:37:25 GMT -5 howarewegoingtopay said:

Nov 19, 2013 16:26:17 GMT -5 vosa said:

You guys got it all wrong.

More than 100M people have enrolled in Obamacare.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509715/Obama-flubs-health-care-conference-community-organizers-More-100-million-Americans-successfully-enrolled.html

That includes people in all 57 states including the ones where Austrian is the official language.

They were calling it a gaffe, but frankly sounds like just another lie to me.

It's gettin' so you can't tell em apart.

[Deleted]

Another happy customer.

Which is how I found myself applauding Mike Kreidler and seething at a President I helped elect. Out here in the Land of the Brand of You, we don’t want cheap twelve-month extensions. We’re willing to suck it up and pay our fair share for health insurance. We want the exchanges to work. We’re not demanding a last-minute reprieve that threatens the stability of the entire system. What we’re asking for is clarity and competence.

Of course, that didn't stop his 'blood boiling' at the 94% premium increase.

[Evil Yoda]

One's fair share is the price of one's own insurance, not that price plus the price of someone else's insurance. And not insurance that covers services we'll never need.

[Deleted]

The irony is this quote from the state insurance commissioner:

“In the interest of keeping the consumer protections we have enacted and ensuring that we keep health insurance costs down for all consumers, we are staying the course,” Kreidler said. “We will not be allowing insurance companies to extend their policies.”

I guess Mr. Barcott doesn't count in keeping costs down for all consumers.

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2013 17:23:57 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

One's fair share is the price of one's own insurance, not that price plus the price of someone else's insurance. And not insurance that covers services we'll never need.

But... but... insurance is based on the idea of the premiums of the healthy supporting the bills of the sick!

Of course, that is not the point. 

[Evil Yoda]

Nov 19, 2013 17:28:16 GMT -5 @semi said:

Nov 19, 2013 17:23:57 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

One's fair share is the price of one's own insurance, not that price plus the price of someone else's insurance. And not insurance that covers services we'll never need.

But... but... insurance is based on the idea of the premiums of the healthy supporting the bills of the sick!

It is indeed. Obamacare is basically that, admixed with a Ponzi scheme (since it is the premiums of today's healthy supporting yesterday's sick).

[Deleted]

The point is that the risk is pooled but the premiums are not. My comment was nothing more than a bait and switch.

[drjohnnyfever]

Nov 19, 2013 17:49:21 GMT -5 @semi said:

The point is that the risk is pooled but the premiums are not. My comment was nothing more than a bait and switch.

You rascal, you

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2013 17:50:44 GMT -5 drjohnnyfever said:

Nov 19, 2013 17:49:21 GMT -5 @semi said:

The point is that the risk is pooled but the premiums are not. My comment was nothing more than a bait and switch.

You rascal, you

You will pay more for less and you will love me for it. 

[Evil Yoda]

The Democrats may have bought themselves some votes from people who couldn't get insurance, assuming they ever get insurance. They've lost votes from moderates and members of the middle class whose skyrocketing premiums represent the wealth transfer necessary to purchase those votes. We'll see whether that turns out to be a winner for them or not. I suspect not.

[douger]

Nov 19, 2013 17:56:39 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

The Democrats may have bought themselves some votes from people who couldn't get insurance, assuming they ever get insurance. They've lost votes from moderates and members of the middle class whose skyrocketing premiums represent the wealth transfer necessary to purchase those votes. We'll see whether that turns out to be a winner for them or not. I suspect not.

Medicaid enrollments are through the roof. Just sayin'.

Should I start two or three George Zimmerman threads so that our left wing friends can feel welcome?

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2013 17:56:39 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

The Democrats may have bought themselves some votes from people who couldn't get insurance, assuming they ever get insurance. They've lost votes from moderates and members of the middle class whose skyrocketing premiums represent the wealth transfer necessary to purchase those votes. We'll see whether that turns out to be a winner for them or not. I suspect not.

When they pick the winners and losers they expect the winners to go along with them but that is not always true.  There are a lot of people out there who have a problem with winning at the expense of some one else.  These people will not go along.

Think of it this way.  If I told you I was going to give you $100,000 then you would probably be okay with that.  If I then told you I was going to get the money via an armed robbery then you probably wouldn't be okay with that.  The Obamatax apologists think you would be. 

[Deleted]

Heh... remember this?

[Moses]

Nov 19, 2013 11:22:35 GMT -5 Evil Yoda said:

Nov 19, 2013 10:59:58 GMT -5 Moses said:

Outside of these forums and away from Fox George is still considered the worst Evah!

How long will that last?

Well good question . If the obamacare thing gets popular who knows ?