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Post by aboutwell on Sept 11, 2014 18:47:28 GMT -5
Our presence was scheduled to end... and he simply kept the appointment... far later than we should have been there... it's THEIR problem, not ours... "Do not ask to know then, for whom the bells; it tolls for thee." John Donne Aboutwell, the reality of life is that anywhere a group like ISIS is allowed to remain alive, it is all of our problem. Not unless they come here... then it'll be our problem...
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Post by vosa on Sept 11, 2014 18:53:45 GMT -5
"Do not ask to know then, for whom the bells; it tolls for thee." John Donne Aboutwell, the reality of life is that anywhere a group like ISIS is allowed to remain alive, it is all of our problem. Not unless they come here... then it'll be our problem... Your are obviously not familiar with the writings of Martin Niemoller and/or John Donne. Or you simply don't believe what they have said has any merit. Either way to think as you do puts people's lives in danger.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 11, 2014 18:58:08 GMT -5
Not unless they come here... then it'll be our problem... Your are obviously not familiar with the writings of Martin Niemoller and/or John Donne. Or you simply don't believe what they have said has any merit. Either way to think as you do puts people's lives in danger. I don't live my life in fear... that's your business if you do...
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Post by middleoftheroad on Sept 11, 2014 19:38:19 GMT -5
Your are obviously not familiar with the writings of Martin Niemoller and/or John Donne. Or you simply don't believe what they have said has any merit. Either way to think as you do puts people's lives in danger. I don't live my life in fear... that's your business if you do... ab, I've stood watch on 35' seas and fought a fire at sea. I've loaded out ships with bombs and stood under a volcano coordinating an evacuation. I wear a crucifix just so if these guys show up in my neighborhood, they will know where I stand. I don't live my life in fear, but only a fool refuses to recognize reality.
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Post by Ravenchamp on Sept 11, 2014 20:02:37 GMT -5
A few Daisy Cutters or newer versions will get them all. The BLU-82B/C-130 weapon system, known under program "Commando Vault" and nicknamed "daisy cutter" in Vietnam and in Afghanistan for its ability to flatten a forest into a helicopter landing zone, is a 15,000 pound (6,800 kg) conventional bomb, delivered from either a C-130 or an MC-130 transport aircraft. There were 225 constructed.[1] The BLU-82 was retired in 2008 and replaced with the more powerful MOAB. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82I'm going to add asymmetrical warfare to the list of things you apparently do not understand. don't care how you do it, just destroy them.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 11, 2014 21:25:59 GMT -5
I don't live my life in fear... that's your business if you do... ab, I've stood watch on 35' seas and fought a fire at sea. I've loaded out ships with bombs and stood under a volcano coordinating an evacuation. I wear a crucifix just so if these guys show up in my neighborhood, they will know where I stand. I don't live my life in fear, but only a fool refuses to recognize reality. Good for you... The "reality" is that it's their problem... it will be our problem when they come here... and when they do... and they will... we'll deal with them then... but until then... life goes on... and I'm gonna enjoy it...
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Post by vosa on Sept 13, 2014 11:52:13 GMT -5
ab, I've stood watch on 35' seas and fought a fire at sea. I've loaded out ships with bombs and stood under a volcano coordinating an evacuation. I wear a crucifix just so if these guys show up in my neighborhood, they will know where I stand. I don't live my life in fear, but only a fool refuses to recognize reality. Good for you... The "reality" is that it's their problem... it will be our problem when they come here... and when they do... and they will... we'll deal with them then... but until then... life goes on... and I'm gonna enjoy it... You go right ahead. Meanwhile I'm still hopeful that the adults will take care of the problem. And you might want to invest 40 seconds in this video.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 13, 2014 11:59:34 GMT -5
ab, I've stood watch on 35' seas and fought a fire at sea. I've loaded out ships with bombs and stood under a volcano coordinating an evacuation. I wear a crucifix just so if these guys show up in my neighborhood, they will know where I stand. I don't live my life in fear, but only a fool refuses to recognize reality. Good for you... The "reality" is that it's their problem... it will be our problem when they come here... and when they do... and they will... we'll deal with them then... but until then... life goes on... and I'm gonna enjoy it... Every sane American would prefer to do everything possible to keep them from coming here.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 12:50:08 GMT -5
Good for you... The "reality" is that it's their problem... it will be our problem when they come here... and when they do... and they will... we'll deal with them then... but until then... life goes on... and I'm gonna enjoy it... You go right ahead. Meanwhile I'm still hopeful that the adults will take care of the problem. And you might want to invest 40 seconds in this video.Let me know when they do... they haven't done it now in 1,000 years... and I don't have as long to wait as I have had...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 12:52:44 GMT -5
Good for you... The "reality" is that it's their problem... it will be our problem when they come here... and when they do... and they will... we'll deal with them then... but until then... life goes on... and I'm gonna enjoy it... Every sane American would prefer to do everything possible to keep them from coming here. Which means better security here... if you think we, or anybody else, is gonna kill all of 'em there, you aren't one of those sane Americans...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 13, 2014 16:07:52 GMT -5
Every sane American would prefer to do everything possible to keep them from coming here. Which means better security here... if you think we, or anybody else, is gonna kill all of 'em there, you aren't one of those sane Americans... On the contrary; "there" is the best place to try and kill them. Just playing ostrich and waiting for them to get past your 'better security' will guarantee we'll have to fight them here. Leaving the original tumor alone, and only treating the metastases is a death sentence.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 17:07:04 GMT -5
Which means better security here... if you think we, or anybody else, is gonna kill all of 'em there, you aren't one of those sane Americans... On the contrary; "there" is the best place to try and kill them. Just playing ostrich and waiting for them to get past your 'better security' will guarantee we'll have to fight them here. Leaving the original tumor alone, and only treating the metastases is a death sentence. We're gonna have to fight 'em here either way... and I agree that over there would be a better place to kill 'em... but we can't kill 'em all even there... let them kill as many of each other as they can and then what's left will have less reason to be pissed off at us...
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Post by vosa on Sept 13, 2014 18:21:51 GMT -5
Let me know when they do... they haven't done it now in 1,000 years... and I don't have as long to wait as I have had... Are the Thuggees still terrorizing India? A knowledge of history would help you avoid making these embarrassing statements.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 18:40:39 GMT -5
Let me know when they do... they haven't done it now in 1,000 years... and I don't have as long to wait as I have had... Are the Thuggees still terrorizing India? A knowledge of history would help you avoid making these embarrassing statements. I really didn't mean to embarrass you there... sorry...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 13, 2014 18:47:33 GMT -5
On the contrary; "there" is the best place to try and kill them. Just playing ostrich and waiting for them to get past your 'better security' will guarantee we'll have to fight them here. Leaving the original tumor alone, and only treating the metastases is a death sentence. We're gonna have to fight 'em here either way... and I agree that over there would be a better place to kill 'em... but we can't kill 'em all even there... let them kill as many of each other as they can and then what's left will have less reason to be pissed off at us... Then why aren't we getting as many as we can there? So there will be fewer getting all the way here.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 18:52:26 GMT -5
We're gonna have to fight 'em here either way... and I agree that over there would be a better place to kill 'em... but we can't kill 'em all even there... let them kill as many of each other as they can and then what's left will have less reason to be pissed off at us... Then why aren't we getting as many as we can there? So there will be fewer getting all the way here. Sounds like I tell my wife about snakes and spiders when she wants to kill 'em... I tell her to just leave 'em alone... for every one you kill, there still thousands of them in the brush... And I'm right...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 13, 2014 19:01:00 GMT -5
Then why aren't we getting as many as we can there? So there will be fewer getting all the way here. Sounds like I tell my wife about snakes and spiders when she wants to kill 'em... I tell her to just leave 'em alone... for every one you kill, there still thousands of them in the brush... And I'm right... No. You're not right. You'd only be right if comparing ISIS to snakes and spiders made sense. Snakes and spiders don't go out of their way to come in to your house with the intention of killing and/or enslaving everyone inside. You can afford to leave the snakes and spiders alone. The same can not be said of ISIS.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 19:47:46 GMT -5
Sounds like I tell my wife about snakes and spiders when she wants to kill 'em... I tell her to just leave 'em alone... for every one you kill, there still thousands of them in the brush... And I'm right... No. You're not right. You'd only be right if comparing ISIS to snakes and spiders made sense. Snakes and spiders don't go out of their way to come in to your house with the intention of killing and/or enslaving everyone inside. You can afford to leave the snakes and spiders alone. The same can not be said of ISIS. They don't seem to have a problem recruiting... even from among the ranks here in the U.S... and there are over 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 13, 2014 20:28:40 GMT -5
No. You're not right. You'd only be right if comparing ISIS to snakes and spiders made sense. Snakes and spiders don't go out of their way to come in to your house with the intention of killing and/or enslaving everyone inside. You can afford to leave the snakes and spiders alone. The same can not be said of ISIS. They don't seem to have a problem recruiting... even from among the ranks here in the U.S... and there are over 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide... Sure. There are a lot of very violent, hateful people out there who identify with ISIS. Which is all the more reason we need to be much more proactive with them. They will find it much more difficult to recruit when sympathetic people start to see them lose badly.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 21:23:57 GMT -5
They don't seem to have a problem recruiting... even from among the ranks here in the U.S... and there are over 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide... Sure. There are a lot of very violent, hateful people out there who identify with ISIS. Which is all the more reason we need to be much more proactive with them. They will find it much more difficult to recruit when sympathetic people start to see them lose badly. Keep on dreaming...
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Post by redleg on Sept 13, 2014 21:29:18 GMT -5
Yup, thanks to The Puppet's precipitous, unilateral surrender and bailing on them. Our presence was scheduled to end... and he simply kept the appointment... far later than we should have been there... it's THEIR problem, not ours... No, it's our problem. They have stated their goal to come here, and with The Puppet's open border policy, they are already here. What will The Puppet do when a car bomb goes off in NY? Or DC? Or Chicago? Or, given the numbers of illegals The Puppet has spread all over the country, without telling anyone where they went, ebola, tuberculosis, anthrax, or a number of other bio weapons are a distinct possibility.
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Post by redleg on Sept 13, 2014 21:31:24 GMT -5
Yup, it's that simple, THEIR problem. Maybe we should adopt your foreign policy. Then we'd be like a lot of other countries who mind their own business... and let other people take care of their own problems... when it doesn't directly effect us... Like Britain and France, both of which are becoming Muslim Caliphates? Or Ukraine, who is about to become a Russian "protectorate"? Same with Estonia? Remember, we could have stopped Hitler early, had we not had your point of view. 60 million people died because of it.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 13, 2014 21:32:59 GMT -5
Redleg and all... the truth of the matter is that as long as there is ONE man or woman willing to die for whatever their cause... we will be in dander of a terrorist attack... I have been saying it was coming here since the late 1980's... (after the warmonger Reagan)... I said back then that it was coming to your local Pizza Hut... it may be an even bigger target now...
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Post by redleg on Sept 13, 2014 21:33:35 GMT -5
ab, I've stood watch on 35' seas and fought a fire at sea. I've loaded out ships with bombs and stood under a volcano coordinating an evacuation. I wear a crucifix just so if these guys show up in my neighborhood, they will know where I stand. I don't live my life in fear, but only a fool refuses to recognize reality. Good for you... The "reality" is that it's their problem... it will be our problem when they come here... and when they do... and they will... we'll deal with them then... but until then... life goes on... and I'm gonna enjoy it... Really? How? We have a Muslim sympathizer and Marxist for President, a military that's already been hollowed out, DHS that's nothing but a corrupt Democrat watercarrier, and police departments that are being systematically subsumed by the racist DOJ. Who will "handle" them?
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 14, 2014 6:44:14 GMT -5
Sure. There are a lot of very violent, hateful people out there who identify with ISIS. Which is all the more reason we need to be much more proactive with them. They will find it much more difficult to recruit when sympathetic people start to see them lose badly. Keep on dreaming... Great. Now that you've been backed into a logical corner, your surrender is accepted.
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