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Post by Ranger John on Sept 14, 2014 6:48:34 GMT -5
Redleg and all... the truth of the matter is that as long as there is ONE man or woman willing to die for whatever their cause... we will be in dander of a terrorist attack... I have been saying it was coming here since the late 1980's... (after the warmonger Reagan)... I said back then that it was coming to your local Pizza Hut... it may be an even bigger target now... I'd like to thank you for reminding us all of the sort of thinking that brought the world the Holocaust. Finding excuses to not do anything about the Nazis in the 1930s worked out so very well, didn't it? And before you suggest that the Nazis and Islamists are different, please explain how and why you think they're different. Both are after world domination, and killing as many Jews as they can along the way.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 14, 2014 7:00:32 GMT -5
Redleg and all... the truth of the matter is that as long as there is ONE man or woman willing to die for whatever their cause... we will be in dander of a terrorist attack... I have been saying it was coming here since the late 1980's... (after the warmonger Reagan)... I said back then that it was coming to your local Pizza Hut... it may be an even bigger target now... I'd like to thank you for reminding us all of the sort of thinking that brought the world the Holocaust. Finding excuses to not do anything about the Nazis in the 1930s worked out so very well, didn't it? And before you suggest that the Nazis and Islamists are different, please explain how and why you think they're different. Both are after world domination, and killing as many Jews as they can along the way. Well one had a industrial base, the other just feeds on others. How long can ISIS last just feeding on the leftovers?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 7:15:29 GMT -5
Then we'd be like a lot of other countries who mind their own business... and let other people take care of their own problems... when it doesn't directly effect us... Like Britain and France, both of which are becoming Muslim Caliphates? Or Ukraine, who is about to become a Russian "protectorate"? Same with Estonia? Remember, we could have stopped Hitler early, had we not had your point of view. 60 million people died because of it. 'Britain and France becoming Muslim Caliphates'... Bullshyte! 'Ukraine becoming a Russian protectorate'... The eastern Russian speaking part, maybe. 'Stopped Hitler early'... The US was at least 4 years too late for that.
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Post by rentedmule on Sept 14, 2014 7:47:34 GMT -5
I'd like to thank you for reminding us all of the sort of thinking that brought the world the Holocaust. Finding excuses to not do anything about the Nazis in the 1930s worked out so very well, didn't it? And before you suggest that the Nazis and Islamists are different, please explain how and why you think they're different. Both are after world domination, and killing as many Jews as they can along the way. Well one had a industrial base, the other just feeds on others. How long can ISIS last just feeding on the leftovers? Much like the welfare state, just as long as the productive agree to be consumed?
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 14, 2014 8:51:53 GMT -5
I'd like to thank you for reminding us all of the sort of thinking that brought the world the Holocaust. Finding excuses to not do anything about the Nazis in the 1930s worked out so very well, didn't it? And before you suggest that the Nazis and Islamists are different, please explain how and why you think they're different. Both are after world domination, and killing as many Jews as they can along the way. Well one had a industrial base, the other just feeds on others. How long can ISIS last just feeding on the leftovers? ISIS has an industrial base too. They're producing oil.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 11:28:10 GMT -5
Great. Now that you've been backed into a logical corner, your surrender is accepted. Logical corner, my ass... I'm at the top of the mountain and you're still reaching... Just stick around... you'll see...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 11:33:37 GMT -5
Well one had a industrial base, the other just feeds on others. How long can ISIS last just feeding on the leftovers? ISIS has an industrial base too. They're producing oil. ISIS has no base... they're just a bunch of rebels... nothing like the Nazis... The are kinda like the folks who showed up at Cliven Bundy's ranch in Arizona... just a bunch of misfits with guns...
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 14, 2014 11:34:04 GMT -5
Great. Now that you've been backed into a logical corner, your surrender is accepted. Logical corner, my ass... I'm at the top of the mountain and you're still reaching... Just stick around... you'll see... Ah. Now I understand. Oxygen deprivation. NOW it makes sense.
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Post by vosa on Sept 14, 2014 11:34:52 GMT -5
Great. Now that you've been backed into a logical corner, your surrender is accepted. Logical corner, my ass... I'm at the top of the mountain and you're still reaching... Just stick around... you'll see... Say hello to the mole for me, will ya?
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 14, 2014 11:37:30 GMT -5
ISIS has an industrial base too. They're producing oil. ISIS has no base... they're just a bunch of rebels... nothing like the Nazis... The are kinda like the folks who showed up at Cliven Bundy's ranch in Arizona... just a bunch of misfits with guns... Misfits with guns who control several major cities in Iraq and Syria as well as oil production facilities. This whole 'jv teal in Bulls uniforms' was wrong when Obama said it. Now it's obvious that it was wrong to everyone. Or almost everyone.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 14, 2014 11:57:45 GMT -5
The best way to deal with them, if we had someone smart enough to actually pull it off, would be to exploit the natural hatred Muslims have for Muslims over even the smallest theological differences. It may be as pure and intense as the hatred they have for non-Muslims. Get them to fight each other with fury and passion.
Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in this administration both smart enough to do it, and with the necessary resolve.
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 14, 2014 11:58:51 GMT -5
Well one had a industrial base, the other just feeds on others. How long can ISIS last just feeding on the leftovers? ISIS has an industrial base too. They're producing oil. Then maybe that's what we should attack. Take away their ability to earn and smash the infrastructure (water, sewer, and electricity) of the areas where they lurk.
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Post by Ranger John on Sept 14, 2014 12:24:32 GMT -5
The best way to deal with them, if we had someone smart enough to actually pull it off, would be to exploit the natural hatred Muslims have for Muslims over even the smallest theological differences. It may be as pure and intense as the hatred they have for non-Muslims. Get them to fight each other with fury and passion. Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in this administration both smart enough to do it, and with the necessary resolve. Actually, it is happening. Heck, the whole ISIS thing came out of Muslim on Muslim bloodletting in Syria. When they were still fighting Assad, I didn't really care. But they started expanding into places that were at least nominally quiet.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 12:25:17 GMT -5
Logical corner, my ass... I'm at the top of the mountain and you're still reaching... Just stick around... you'll see... Ah. Now I understand. Oxygen deprivation. NOW it makes sense. If that's all you got... stick with it...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 12:33:52 GMT -5
Logical corner, my ass... I'm at the top of the mountain and you're still reaching... Just stick around... you'll see... Say hello to the mole for me, will ya? Same goes for you...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 12:38:41 GMT -5
The best way to deal with them, if we had someone smart enough to actually pull it off, would be to exploit the natural hatred Muslims have for Muslims over even the smallest theological differences. It may be as pure and intense as the hatred they have for non-Muslims. Get them to fight each other with fury and passion. Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in this administration both smart enough to do it, and with the necessary resolve. With 1.6 billion Muslims on the planet, you'd think the majority of them would take care of these few thousand "misfits," wouldn't you?...
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 12:40:17 GMT -5
ISIS has an industrial base too. They're producing oil. Then maybe that's what we should attack. Take away their ability to earn and smash the infrastructure (water, sewer, and electricity) of the areas where they lurk. If they did, we could... but they don't, and we can't...
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Post by Evil Yoda on Sept 14, 2014 12:42:00 GMT -5
With 1.6 billion Muslims on the planet, you'd think the majority of them would take care of these few thousand "misfits," wouldn't you?... It's starting to look like ISIS represents accepted Muslim thought, and the few that can actually get along with others are the misfits.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 12:42:19 GMT -5
Ah. Now I understand. Oxygen deprivation. NOW it makes sense. If that's all you got... stick with it... If he'd have used the correct term 'hypoxia' it might have impressed me... talking of which, do you remember Hypoxic Hobo from way back when?
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 12:48:46 GMT -5
The best way to deal with them, if we had someone smart enough to actually pull it off, would be to exploit the natural hatred Muslims have for Muslims over even the smallest theological differences. It may be as pure and intense as the hatred they have for non-Muslims. Get them to fight each other with fury and passion. Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in this administration both smart enough to do it, and with the necessary resolve. Actually, it is happening. Heck, the whole ISIS thing came out of Muslim on Muslim bloodletting in Syria. When they were still fighting Assad, I didn't really care. But they started expanding into places that were at least nominally quiet. Me thinks you guys need to get a map of that place over there and study it... the bad guys are everywhere... hot today, cold tomorrow... beat 'em down here, they rise up over there... they're everywhere and all the same... violent...
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Post by vosa on Sept 14, 2014 13:01:43 GMT -5
Like Britain and France, both of which are becoming Muslim Caliphates? Or Ukraine, who is about to become a Russian "protectorate"? Same with Estonia? Remember, we could have stopped Hitler early, had we not had your point of view. 60 million people died because of it. 'Britain and France becoming Muslim Caliphates'... Bullshyte! 'Ukraine becoming a Russian protectorate'... The eastern Russian speaking part, maybe. 'Stopped Hitler early'... The US was at least 4 years too late for that.France and the U.K. did nothing when Hitler remilitarized the Rhineland in 1936. It is quite possible that if those 2 countries had opposed Hitler then the history of the next 9 years would have been considerable different.
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Post by aboutwell on Sept 14, 2014 13:09:57 GMT -5
'Britain and France becoming Muslim Caliphates'... Bullshyte! 'Ukraine becoming a Russian protectorate'... The eastern Russian speaking part, maybe. 'Stopped Hitler early'... The US was at least 4 years too late for that.France and the U.K. did nothing when Hitler remilitarized the Rhineland in 1936. It is quite possible that if those 2 countries had opposed Hitler then the history of the next 9 years would have been considerable different. Hindsight is 20X20... but it's still also a guess as to the turnout... we don't know...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 14:04:33 GMT -5
'Britain and France becoming Muslim Caliphates'... Bullshyte! 'Ukraine becoming a Russian protectorate'... The eastern Russian speaking part, maybe. 'Stopped Hitler early'... The US was at least 4 years too late for that.France and the U.K. did nothing when Hitler remilitarized the Rhineland in 1936. It is quite possible that if those 2 countries had opposed Hitler then the history of the next 9 years would have been considerable different. My post was in response to redleg's "we". Britain and France were still trying to restock their lost generations from 18 years earlier. The US had the manpower and the money to have done the job in 1936, Britain and France did not.
Redleg is speaking for America, if the US wanted it stopped earlier, the US should have ponied up earlier.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 14, 2014 15:27:23 GMT -5
Well one had a industrial base, the other just feeds on others. How long can ISIS last just feeding on the leftovers? ISIS has an industrial base too. They're producing oil. They may be forcing others to produce, are they capable of maintaining the equipment? Looting and raping are way more fun.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Sept 14, 2014 15:30:42 GMT -5
France and the U.K. did nothing when Hitler remilitarized the Rhineland in 1936. It is quite possible that if those 2 countries had opposed Hitler then the history of the next 9 years would have been considerable different. My post was in response to redleg's "we". Britain and France were still trying to restock their lost generations from 18 years earlier. The US had the manpower and the money to have done the job in 1936, Britain and France did not.
Redleg is speaking for America, if the US wanted it stopped earlier, the US should have ponied up earlier. Sadly we were being run by a dem.
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