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Post by Ranger John on Oct 22, 2014 17:01:22 GMT -5
Yahoo News/APSo... all black with a black scarf over his face. I'm guessing it's either a ninja, or the "religion of peace" being peaceful again.
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 18:20:35 GMT -5
Yahoo News/APSo... all black with a black scarf over his face. I'm guessing it's either a ninja, or the "religion of peace" being peaceful again. The real question will be will they call it a Terrorist attack, or workplace violence.  |
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 22, 2014 18:26:45 GMT -5
Yahoo News/APSo... all black with a black scarf over his face. I'm guessing it's either a ninja, or the "religion of peace" being peaceful again. The real question will be will they call it a Terrorist attack, or workplace violence. Well... they are Canadians... and therefore probably not sophisticated enough to think of it as workplace violence. |
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Post by com6063 on Oct 22, 2014 18:32:16 GMT -5
Let's see how they spin this. I pray for the souls of those lost.  |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 22, 2014 18:36:59 GMT -5
Let's see how they spin this. I pray for the souls of those lost. Well one of them probably is visiting some virgins right now, and the others would depend on their particular faiths. |
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 22, 2014 18:43:07 GMT -5
Let's see how they spin this. I pray for the souls of those lost. Its sort of disturbing that we've gotten to the point where not only do we have to pray for the lost souls, we have to watch for the ridiculous spin coming from the authorities on these attacks. Coming out and claiming 'workplace violence' or 'drug deal gone wrong' or whatever else makes a mockery of these tragedies. |
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Post by redleg on Oct 22, 2014 20:00:27 GMT -5
Even the Canadians are smarter than our regime, since they are calling them terrorist attacks, and have increased their security levels. The criminals we have "in charge" won't do that until an RPG hits the WH. Or one of their donors is attacked. Then you'll hear screaming from the rooftops about "right wing terrorism".
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:55:47 GMT -5
One shooter confirmed so far... born and reared in Canada... Canadian citizen...
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 22, 2014 21:57:23 GMT -5
One shooter confirmed so far... born and raised in Canada... a Canadian citizen...
Like I keep saying... as long as there's one man or woman willing to die for their cause.................
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Post by kemmer on Oct 23, 2014 0:27:46 GMT -5
One shooter confirmed so far... born and raised in Canada... a Canadian citizen... Like I keep saying... as long as there's one man or woman willing to die for their cause................. I don't worry about deeply religious people willing to die for their cause. That's the definition of a martyr. It's the fanatics that scare me-- the ones eager to KILL for their cause. |
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 23, 2014 2:36:32 GMT -5
One shooter confirmed so far... born and raised in Canada... a Canadian citizen... Like I keep saying... as long as there's one man or woman willing to die for their cause................. I don't worry about deeply religious people willing to die for their cause. That's the definition of a martyr. It's the fanatics that scare me-- the ones eager to KILL for their cause. Agreed kemmer. Has the report that the shooter was a recent convert to Islam been confirmed yet? |
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 7:01:53 GMT -5
I don't worry about deeply religious people willing to die for their cause. That's the definition of a martyr. It's the fanatics that scare me-- the ones eager to KILL for their cause. Agreed kemmer. Has the report that the shooter was a recent convert to Islam been confirmed yet? Just because someone converts to Islam doesn't mean they are terrorists... Lew Alcindor converted to Islam, you know... |
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 7:04:41 GMT -5
One shooter confirmed so far... born and raised in Canada... a Canadian citizen... Like I keep saying... as long as there's one man or woman willing to die for their cause................. I don't worry about deeply religious people willing to die for their cause. That's the definition of a martyr. It's the fanatics that scare me-- the ones eager to KILL for their cause. But some of these folks are willing to die while killing others... we just haven't got the individual suicide bombers... yet... but no doubt, we will... Do you not think this guy expected to be killed in this particular exchange?... |
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 23, 2014 7:13:28 GMT -5
Agreed kemmer. Has the report that the shooter was a recent convert to Islam been confirmed yet? Just because someone converts to Islam doesn't mean they are terrorists... Lew Alcindor converted to Islam, you know... As did Cassius Clay. You know aw, sometimes a question is just a question, and not an accusation. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 7:14:40 GMT -5
Yahoo News/APSo... all black with a black scarf over his face. I'm guessing it's either a ninja, or the "religion of peace" being peaceful again. The real question will be will they call it a Terrorist attack, or workplace violence. Canada is calling it an act of terror. |
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 7:22:10 GMT -5
Just because someone converts to Islam doesn't mean they are terrorists... Lew Alcindor converted to Islam, you know... As did Cassius Clay. You know aw, sometimes a question is just a question, and not an accusation. I know... but I just wanted to remind folks not to jump to any conclusions just because this guy may have converted to Islam... some might automatically consider his a terrorist for doing so... it may be an issue and it may not... And why even ask the question if there isn't at least a hint of suspicion?... |
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 7:22:41 GMT -5
The real question will be will they call it a Terrorist attack, or workplace violence. Canada is calling it an act of terror. Some are... some are not... it's certainly not workplace violence unless the guy had been employed there somewhere previously... I haven't heard... |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 23, 2014 7:26:01 GMT -5
The real question will be will they call it a Terrorist attack, or workplace violence. Canada is calling it an act of terror. They are also asking their military not to wear their uniforms in public. A very cowardly message. |
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Post by rentedmule on Oct 23, 2014 7:35:34 GMT -5
Canada is calling it an act of terror. They are also asking their military not to wear their uniforms in public. A very cowardly message. Not without precedent. In 1968 when I returned home and was debriefed in Oakland we were told to NOT wear the US military uniform in public. I never thought of it as cowardly, but merely a pragmatic tactic to protect soldiers from the American public. But maybe you are correct. |
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Post by Ravenchamp on Oct 23, 2014 7:57:43 GMT -5
This is close to home, reports on morning news here say the danger is large for an attack on the USA now
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Post by aboutwell on Oct 23, 2014 8:47:22 GMT -5
This is close to home, reports on morning news here say the danger is large for an attack on the USA now I been predicting that since the early 90's at least... I referred to bombing Pizza Huts back then... |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 23, 2014 8:55:19 GMT -5
They are also asking their military not to wear their uniforms in public. A very cowardly message. Not without precedent. In 1968 when I returned home and was debriefed in Oakland we were told to NOT wear the US military uniform in public. I never thought of it as cowardly, but merely a pragmatic tactic to protect soldiers from the American public. But maybe you are correct. There is a difference, the difference is between terrorists, and hippies. When a foreign government says it will attack your military then I don't think telling your military to hide behind civilians is the appropriate response. |
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Post by Ranger John on Oct 23, 2014 8:56:45 GMT -5
Agreed kemmer. Has the report that the shooter was a recent convert to Islam been confirmed yet? Just because someone converts to Islam doesn't mean they are terrorists... Lew Alcindor converted to Islam, you know... Yeah... but if they shoot a bunch of people in broad daylight in and around the Canadian Parliament, that DOES make them a terrorist. |
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Post by howarewegoingtopay on Oct 23, 2014 8:58:14 GMT -5
This is close to home, reports on morning news here say the danger is large for an attack on the USA now I think we need a policy that all terrorists caught have all their enablers arrested with them, whether it be family, friends, mosques, imams whatever, if they encouraged/supported your actions they should be tried for treason along with the terrorist. Terrorism under the direction of a foreign government (Islam is a political government) should be punished with a treason charge, and a quick execution carried out if convicted. (I know I sound like Redleg, but hey he is correct in this ). |
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Post by middleoftheroad on Oct 23, 2014 9:09:08 GMT -5
As did Cassius Clay. You know aw, sometimes a question is just a question, and not an accusation. I know... but I just wanted to remind folks not to jump to any conclusions just because this guy may have converted to Islam... some might automatically consider his a terrorist for doing so... it may be an issue and it may not... And why even ask the question if there isn't at least a hint of suspicion?... Two reasons; (1) if I'm not mistaken, there was a similar attack in Canada earlier in the week, reportedly conducted by a Muslim extremist as well. If accurate, the second incident would indicate a trend and not an isolated incident. (2) converts to any creed or organization tend to be very active in the new creed or organization. While converting to Islam is absolutely not an indication that this individual was a zealot, conversion of any kind indicates an active participation in the (in this case) section or group that led to the conversion. Were that an extreme Islamic group, admittedly an unknown, his action would not be inconsistent with terrorism. |
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